The X-Men!

[JackB1]

It looks great with these overgrips and strings. I get comments on the court all the time.

BTW, I only have 1 left. If anyone wants it, let me know ASAP. (4 1/2).

last call!

 

[Bud]

last call!

Try the classifieds

 

[JackB1]

Any Rebel users also try the Dunlop 4D 200? They have identical swingweight and appear on paper to be VERY similar. Anyone here prefer the Rebel to the 4D 200 and why?

 

[Anton]

Any Rebel users also try the Dunlop 4D 200? They have identical swingweight and appear on paper to be VERY similar. Anyone here prefer the Rebel to the 4D 200 and why?

Rebel has better feel and slightly more open stringbed - other then that they are very similar, with the 200 being slightly more head heavy and slightly lower static weight.

I feel like there is nothing 200 has that a bit of lead on Rebel can't give you, but opposite is not true.

 

[TheOneHander]

What does everybody think of Prince's QC? My two Rebel Teams have a different balance. #1 is more head heavy (with a stencil, a smiley face, and Tourna) and #2 is closer to even (just like #1 sans stencil). I know it's not the stencil. The racquets are both strung with the same string, same tension, same gauge, fresh OGs, and both on the same machine. They were purchased from the same place within a two week time period.

Any thoughts? Should I just experiment with some lead in the handle? I prefer the more even-balanced one.

EDIT: Anton, no more Tourna, eh. Care to sell? What made you switch?

 

[JackB1]

What does everybody think of Prince's QC? My two Rebel Teams have a different balance. #1 is more head heavy (with a stencil, a smiley face, and Tourna) and #2 is closer to even (just like #1 sans stencil). I know it's not the stencil. The racquets are both strung with the same string, same tension, same gauge, fresh OGs, and both on the same machine. They were purchased from the same place within a two week time period.

Any thoughts? Should I just experiment with some lead in the handle? I prefer the more even-balanced one.

EDIT: Anton, no more Tourna, eh. Care to sell? What made you switch?

Weight them both and see how many grams different the static weight is? Its not unusual to ge t2 identical frames and for them to be 5-8 grams different. You ahould just put some weight in the handle of the head heavy one until it becomes even balanced. I am guessing it won't take more than 5-8 grams.

 

[Anton]

EDIT: Anton, no more Tourna, eh. Care to sell? What made you switch?

Just trying out slightly smaller grip size for now - not switching.

 

[killerzombie163]

I was wondering if someone can give a comparison between the Rebel Team vs Ignite Team.

I got feedback from OneHander, but I'd like some more ideas on how they might play differently.

 

[JackB1]

Rebel has better feel and slightly more open stringbed - other then that they are very similar, with the 200 being slightly more head heavy and slightly lower static weight.

I feel like there is nothing 200 has that a bit of lead on Rebel can't give you, but opposite is not true.

Anton, do u think the 200 is as "arm friendly" as the Rebel?

 

[Anton]

Anton, do u think the 200 is as "arm friendly" as the Rebel?

stock to stock I'd say 200 is more arm friendly because it's more stable (than most rebels anyway, some are heavier then others lol) - but again, a bit of lead on rebel and it will be just as stable.

Flexibility wise tough to say if rebel is actually more flexy of just feels that way.

 

[JackB1]

stock to stock I'd say 200 is more arm friendly because it's more stable (than most rebels anyway, some are heavier then others lol) - but again, a bit of lead on rebel and it will be just as stable.

Flexibility wise tough to say if rebel is actually more flexy of just feels that way.

The Rebel definitely "feels" more flexy and the 200 more "firm", but I was wondering if anyone like me who has a "sensitive elbow" had any problems with the AG200? The Rebel was one of the most arm friendly racquets I have ever tried. I put it right up there with the Fischers & ProKennex's.

 

[chaddles]

I have fallen in love with the Rebel yet again.. After using a K90 and BLX90 as my main sticks for the past couple of months, I rediscovered the Reb after sacrificing a K90 for the good of the team last night.

Not sure what it is about the Reb, there is something that tempts me to look for an alternate stick (even though I have 4 of them) every so often even though it is a very solid beast. I play solid with them and they do everything really well, yet I have still been using the K90's most of the time.

Anyway heading into the 2nd last set of the doubles, sets and games were even. I had played about average the previous 2 sets with the K90, and we ended up being 3-0 down when I missed a volley and in disgust bounced the K90 cracking the frame. I Walked to the bag enraged, didn't even think about the other K or BLX90's, I wasn't playing well enough and didn't want to risk breaking my 3rd K90 in 2 weeks....

That is when I grabbed old faithful out - my first Rebel 95 (12g lead @ 3&9) strung with M2 Pro @ Fifty Eight lbs, and plenty of 'love' scars all over it. First hit, and all the painful memories went away - I know why they use the term buttery in the promo material!! Anyway, my partner and I stormed back into the set winning the next 6 games to take the set 6-3. My partner couldn't believe the transformation - I hardly missed a shot or volley, and served out the match to love. We ended up winning the night 4-2 (& 4 games).

Needless to say that I am deeply in love with the Rebs again, and am back into trying a few more string combinations - I have BB Ace 112, TiMO 110, and Poly EXP 18 coming in the next couple of days.

PS - Ross K, how is your battle with the Rebel going?

 

[TheOneHander]

chaddles, that was beautiful. A story of unbridled love and passion!

Just kidding

I gotta say...the Poly EXP is awesome. You should try a set at low tension. It's perfect! I actually discovered it in a wierd way. I had a demo that had obviously not be restrung in a while with Poly EXP, and boy was it sweet. Low tension was awesome!

Cheers, and good luck!

 

[JackB1]

I gotta say...the Poly EXP is awesome. You should try a set at low tension. It's perfect! I actually discovered it in a wierd way. I had a demo that had obviously not be restrung in a while with Poly EXP, and boy was it sweet. Low tension was awesome!

Cheers, and good luck!

I agree. I liked the Poly EXP hybrid set so much I bought a whole bunch of them. The "spin" (17/18) and the "power" (16/17). If anyone wants some of these great strings, drop me a line. I probably have too many

I have to say. The optic yellow looks awesome on the Rebel!

 

[killerzombie163]

So I went out on a limb and bought the Ignite Team. I think it was a great choice since it played a bit similar to my old Dunlop 3hundred m-fil. I didn't expect it to be slightly on the heavy-light side since I heard it was generally light, but I love the weight.

I can blast the ball and get a great amount of top spin to get it to go dipping down.

Overall, I think I'll love this stick forever

 

[ignorant]

hey ,guys ,could you please count me in,
Exo3 Rebel 95 with Prince Poly EXP 56lbs,
it have some hollow feel when first hit, but 1-2 hours later,feels good, i like the Resi+ pro replacement grip

 

[JackB1]

If anyone's interested, I still have one Reb F/S (4 1/2) and would love for someone in this thread to get it. I'll even throw in a free pack of Prince Hybrid "power" or "spin" strings if u came from this thread. Just drop me a line and I'll hook u up.

 

[Anton]

If anyone's interested, I still have one Reb F/S (4 1/2) and would love for someone in this thread to get it. I'll even throw in a free pack of Prince Hybrid "power" or "spin" strings if u came from this thread. Just drop me a line and I'll hook u up.

Lol man I told you I'll take it this Thursday didn't I? But I guess I'll take that set of prince power hybrid power off your hands too now :twisted:

 

[TheOneHander]

1 - Ross K (Exo3 Reb 95, Kirshbaum ProLine 2 @ 50lbs)
2 - Taz23 (Exo3 Reb 95)
3 - Donbot (Exo3 Ignite)
4 - Ljubicic for no 1 (Exo3 Reb 95 & Graphite 100)
5 - kimguroo (Japanese/Asian Exo3 Reb 95)
6 - davetennis (Exo3 Reb 95)
7 - Prince03UserInOz (Exo3 Graphite 100)
8 - SlAyEr (Exo3 Reb 95)
9 - Anton - (Exo3 Reb 95, Topspin Cyber Flash 17L @ 60)
10 - GhOst (Exo3 Graphite 100)
11 -Tennis_dude^V^ (Exo3 Reb 95)
12 - vasquez90 (Exo3 Reb 95)
13 - themitchmann (Exo3 Reb 95)
14 - Tipsy (Exo3 Reb 95)
15 - JonnyJolly11 (Exo3 ignite)
16 - Teyko (Exo3 Reb 95)
17 - Chicken Neck (Exo3 Reb 95)
18 - game set match 46 TIMES!! (Exo3 Reb 95 Team, some string at some tension)
19 - Applesauceman (Exo3 Ignite 95)
20 - lefty10spro (Exo3 Graphite 100)
21 - rchang730 (Exo3 Reb 95)
22 - ninobrn99 (Exo3 Reb team)
23 - chaddles (Exo3 Reb 95)
24 - ci2ca (Exo3 Reb 95)
25 - tenniscourtoath (Exo3 Reb 95)
26 - Klementine79 (Exo3 Reb 95)
27 - IStern (Exo3 Reb 95)
28 - i_need_rice (Exo3 Ignite 95)
29 - gfc101 (Exo3 Reb 95)
30 - TheOneHander (Exo3 Reb Team 95, Prince Poly EXP)
31 - JackB1 (Exo3 Reb 95, Prince Premiere LT 17/Prince Poly EXP 18 @ 54)
32 - baseline_monster (Exo3 Reb 95, Luxilon Big Bander Alu Power @ 54)
33 - ryushen21 (Exo3 Reb 95, Tecnifibre Black Code)
34 - artworks (Exo3 Reb 95, Kirshbaum ProLine 2 @ 50lbs)
35 - Woodersen (Exo3 Reb 95, NXT Tour/Alu Power)
36 - PrinceAce (Prince Exo3 Graphite/ 58 All round hybrid strings Prince Exo3 Reb 95/ 55Mains 53Cross Hybrid)
37-Sup2Dresq (Honorary Member)
38 - ignorant (Exo3 Rebel 95 with Prince Poly EXP 56lbs)
39 - killerzombie163 (Exo3 Ignite Team)
40 - roger nadal (Exo3 Rebel 95 Revenge AND VS Natural Gut 58 )
41 - SlapShot (Exo3 Rebel 95)

That's everybody! Welcome ignorant, killerzombie163, and roger nadal. Glad to have you here.

EDIT: and SlapShot. Wooderson is on here too

 

[JackB1]

Lol man I told you I'll take it this Thursday didn't I? But I guess I'll take that set of prince power hybrid power off your hands too now :twisted:

Sorry Anton...I hadn't heard from you by the end of Thurs, so I thought u were passing on it. But you got it my friend! Free strings too!

 

[roger nadal]

count me in

REBEL 95

 

[TheOneHander]

Sorry Anton...I hadn't heard from you by the end of Thurs, so I thought u were passing on it. But you got it my friend! Free strings too!

Woah! How'd you find the BB11 so quickly? It seems like you switched overnight.

Those accursed orange racquets...

 

[JackB1]

Woah! How'd you find the BB11 so quickly? It seems like you switched overnight.

Those accursed orange racquets...

Just tried a demo and loved everything about it. The BB11 has similar, soft feel like the Rebel, but I just found the BB11 to more suit my game. The 98" head gives me a bit more foregiveness and it also swings a bit lighter. I loved the Rebel, but I found something that I just liked a little more.

 

[vasquez90]

seems like a lot of people are using Poly EXP in the REbel 95 - can you explain what is so awesome about it and which gauge and tension you use?

 

[TheOneHander]

seems like a lot of people are using Poly EXP in the REbel 95 - can you explain what is so awesome about it and which gauge and tension you use?

First of all, it's poly. Full poly+low tension=sweet feel in Rebel (IMHO). The low tensions give you even more spin and power, but the spin helps bring the ball down.

Second of all, it came with my demo

I like the 17 gauge; anything below gets mushy in a 95" 18x20. It's pretty arm friendly, holds tension pretty well, and is a bit cheaper than most polys. It's not as powerful as a multi but is not as boardy as other polys (but I have mine strung low).

Not to mention it looks just plain AWESOME with the Rebel.

JackB1 is here a lot. He can tell you some about the string too.

 

[Anton]

double post grrr :evil:

 

[Anton]

First of all, it's poly. Full poly+low tension=sweet feel in Rebel (IMHO). The low tensions give you even more spin and power, but the spin helps bring the ball down.

Second of all, it came with my demo

I like the 17 gauge; anything below gets mushy in a 95" 18x20. It's pretty arm friendly, holds tension pretty well, and is a bit cheaper than most polys. It's not as powerful as a multi but is not as boardy as other polys (but I have mine strung low).

Not to mention it looks just plain AWESOME with the Rebel.

JackB1 is here a lot. He can tell you some about the string too.

Cheaper? It's 12 bucks a pop - topspin cyberflash is about $7 and I can't really tell it from the $14 Big banger string. Gosen Polylon is very nice too and it's about $7 as well

 

[TheOneHander]

EDIT: How're you liking the 18 chaddles? Tell us about the BB Ace too. \/\/

BTW, this is pretty much my last post for a while. I am resigning from my position of member's list updater, so if anybody wants to take over, be my guest.

Thanks for all your help, and cheers, X-Men!

 

[chaddles]

I just strung up a Reb 95 with Poly EXP 18 @ 58lb main/56lb crosses. Taking it for a hit tonight so am keen to see how the thinner string goes. The 'Optic Yellow' (more green in my opinion) does look pretty sweet with the Rebs pj.

Also have BB Ace @ 54lb in another Reb that I will give a go tonight too, am really looking forward to trying a bit lower tension to see how it plays.

 

[ryushen21]

I know it's been asked but do the Rebel Team Grommets fit the regular Rebel?

 

[chaddles]

EDIT: How're you liking the 18 chaddles? Tell us about the BB Ace too. \/\/

BTW, this is pretty much my last post for a while. I am resigning from my position of member's list updater, so if anybody wants to take over, be my guest.

Thanks for all your help, and cheers, X-Men!

EXP 18 was very good - I have used the 17 before on K90 and loved it. Definitely more bite on the ball than 1.25mm, but still not quite enough so I don't think that it will be my main string.

BB Ace was awesome - so much more spin on every shot, and was absolutely brilliant on volleys. I was generating easy spin and control on big top spinning forehands, and slices were very nasty at times. Would have to say that this is the best string I have tried so far, just pipping M2 Pro - just wish they decided to make a M2 Super Pro or something (1.15mm would be perfect).

I have a set of TiMO 110 to put in on the weekend, get to test it out on Sunday - thin strings seem to be the key to getting the best out of the Rebel, especially if you really want a punishing kick serve.

 

[chaddles]

EXO3 Graphite 100

I had a very nice experience last night - since Prince are too rude to not make me a 16x19 Rebel, I have been looking for a more spin friendly alternative and a more forgiving stick on those off days. I was called in as an emergency last night for our clubs Thursday mixed team (on red porous) so I thought that was the perfect time to try a new stick for 3 sets.

A while ago, when I bought my Rebs, I also bought a Graphite 100 for the hell of it. The most I have used it for was probably 10-15 mins, and then went straight to the Rebel. The EXO3 Graphite 100 is truly a spin monster - forehands had great shape and bounce, but it was the kick serve that really got me excited. I was testing it out on the first serves, trying to get as much action on the ball as possible and they were jumping off the court at and above head height - with the Reb, I could do maybe 4 or 5 big kickers a night.

Love the thin beam on the Graphite too, really encourages you to whip the racquet up on the ball and give that ball a good hiding. Only problems I had last night was my 1 hand backhand - I sent quite a few long, not used to the bigger head size and more power, and once I switched to a more extreme eastern backhand it improved a lot more. The other problem was less control that I was used to with the Rebs, but I think that may just be due to limited play time - as well as I would of liked a bit more weight in the handle.

In summary, I had a great time with the Graphite - especially hitting big kickers consistantly and the volleys were very, very good. There is a big sweetspot on this stick, and the ball just rips of it. Won't quite replace the Reb as number one, but if it continually plays this well, it may just take over shortly.

Note: used String HOLE inserts, and strung with Luxilon Monotec Supersense at 56lb (very sweet strings for this racquet)

 

[Woodersen]

Love my Rebel 95. I have it strung up with VS gut and PST on one and NXT & BB on the other. Getting a lot of good action on my kickers. However, I was looking at maybe picking up a EXO3 Graphite as well. Anyone have any suggestions on whether I should go with the mid or the midplus and which one would be closer to the Rebel in playability and feel.

 

[lefty10spro]

The exo3 Graphite mid (93 not the 100) will be closer to your Rebel. Those who keep moaning about no Rebel in a more open pattern need to try this stick!

 

[dyson]

ryushen21... yes. i have team port holes in my non-team version. love it.

 

[SlapShot]

You can put me in as a flirter. I picked up a Rebel last night for giggles, and I'll be hitting the courts with it tomorrow morning. I'm still dedicated to my Babs, but the Rebel might be a fun knockaround frame.

 

[TheOneHander]

Hey X-Men, I couldn't stay away for long

Anyways, what do the people who use low tension in their Rebels like for tension maintenance? I find the low tension is awesome for a bit and then it geets a little bit to lively for my tastes.

BTW...member's list is updated on the previous page.

OneHander

 

[ryushen21]

Thanks for the response dyson. I was hoping someone would answer that question soon.

A question for my fellow X-Men... is anyone other than myself stringing their Rebs over 60lbs? Am I the only one?

 

[dyson]

Has anyone played with a full bed of black code in their rebels? I'm interested in trying it since it's a fairly soft textured poly. Currently use 18g x-one biphase (full bed) and i like it, but sometimes it feels like it's just a little too lively.

 

[JackB1]

Has anyone played with a full bed of black code in their rebels? I'm interested in trying it since it's a fairly soft textured poly. Currently use 18g x-one biphase (full bed) and i like it, but sometimes it feels like it's just a little too lively.

Why dont you try the Prince Spin Hybrid? Put the 18g poly in the mains and the 17g multi in the cross. Its a nice combo and will take your power down a bit while being soft as well. Going from full multi to full poly will be a large jump.

 

[davetennis]

BC in Rebel

Has anyone played with a full bed of black code in their rebels? I'm interested in trying it since it's a fairly soft textured poly. Currently use 18g x-one biphase (full bed) and i like it, but sometimes it feels like it's just a little too lively.

I tried it at 58lbs and though it was a little too boardy for me. But, I am no expert user of a wide variety of strings. I am going to try it at 50 or maybe 48 and see how it feels.

I actually like Prince Lightning XX best so far.

 

[ryushen21]

Has anyone played with a full bed of black code in their rebels? I'm interested in trying it since it's a fairly soft textured poly. Currently use 18g x-one biphase (full bed) and i like it, but sometimes it feels like it's just a little too lively.

Indeed, I play full BC in my Rebs (see sig). I love it. I am using the 17g though. The 18 is nice but not enough life for me.

 

[tennisntn3477]

Just purchased a EXO3 Graphite 93 from TW - hitting with it for the first time tomorrow night. Please add me!

 

[dyson]

So I opted to go with 18g black code/17g nrg2 @ 50/52. At first it was really stiff and made a horrible pinging sound with every hit. Does it soften up? Does that pinging noise go away? I know I came from a full bed of multi to a poly hybrid, but I've played with hybrids before and it just felt really stiff. I'll keep at it and hope that it'll soften up in the future. Just wanted to know what other people's thoughts are.

 

[ryushen21]

^^not sure on that one dyson. It could just be that it feels much stiffer because of this being your first time with BC. It takes about a 15 minute warm up for the string to settle in but then it is all good.

 

[dyson]

So I've played with the 18g blackcode/17g nrg2 @ 50/52 for a couple of days now, and it's softened up a bit. It's definitely NOT as soft as a full set of x-one biphase, but I knew that before I strung it up like this. I'm noticing more bite and spin, a little less power, and a little more control. Definitely does not feel as boardy as I thought it would. Mishits are definitely harsher, but that was to be expected. I only have a couple of questions...

I don't break strings often, and am able to get about a month out of 18g x-1 before the strings really start to go on me. I had my previous set in there for about 1-2 months, and it had frayed up really bad, was a rocketlauncher, and had generally just lost all feel in it. I went with the blackcode because I wanted to try it out, and I'm happy that I did, but I don't know if it's going to last as long before it goes dead on me. I also would consider trying a full set of 17g natural gut. Do people get a month or more out of their blackcode? Does natural gut provide as much spin and bite as blackcode? How long do you think natural gut would last me considering I can go about a month or two with an 18g multi? Thanks guys!

p.s. i'm also thinking about adding a little lead, so if anyone has any suggestions, i'm all ears. i don't think i'd do those crazy lead setups that have been posted before (lead strips between each port). too much work. any simple 12 o'clock setups, or 3-9 setups that people have tried and their thoughts with it. thanks!

 

[Anton]

So I've played with the 18g blackcode/17g nrg2 @ 50/52 for a couple of days now, and it's softened up a bit. It's definitely NOT as soft as a full set of x-one biphase, but I knew that before I strung it up like this. I'm noticing more bite and spin, a little less power, and a little more control. Definitely does not feel as boardy as I thought it would. Mishits are definitely harsher, but that was to be expected. I only have a couple of questions...

I don't break strings often, and am able to get about a month out of 18g x-1 before the strings really start to go on me. I had my previous set in there for about 1-2 months, and it had frayed up really bad, was a rocketlauncher, and had generally just lost all feel in it. I went with the blackcode because I wanted to try it out, and I'm happy that I did, but I don't know if it's going to last as long before it goes dead on me. I also would consider trying a full set of 17g natural gut. Do people get a month or more out of their blackcode? Does natural gut provide as much spin and bite as blackcode? How long do you think natural gut would last me considering I can go about a month or two with an 18g multi? Thanks guys!

p.s. i'm also thinking about adding a little lead, so if anyone has any suggestions, i'm all ears. i don't think i'd do those crazy lead setups that have been posted before (lead strips between each port). too much work. any simple 12 o'clock setups, or 3-9 setups that people have tried and their thoughts with it. thanks!

I really like to distribute the lead in little pieces all the way around the loop from about 8 to 4 - just increase spacing to add less weight.

I posted it here.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4340189&postcount=781

 

[dyson]

yeah anton, i saw that before, and i wasn't too thrilled about it, but it looks like there's a lot less lead then i had remembered. i guess i thought you had it in between each and every port. how much lead did you put on total? did you notice more plow? bigger sweet spot? less twisting? all in all, i feel like the racquet is pretty solid, but i wouldn't mind lessening the head light balance just a tad.

 

[Anton]

yeah anton, i saw that before, and i wasn't too thrilled about it, but it looks like there's a lot less lead then i had remembered. i guess i thought you had it in between each and every port. how much lead did you put on total? did you notice more plow? bigger sweet spot? less twisting? all in all, i feel like the racquet is pretty solid, but i wouldn't mind lessening the head light balance just a tad.

Actually it doesn't add up to too much, I think I used about 16 pieces so thats only about 3 grams. second racket only 12, so thats closer to 2 grams

 

[dyson]

So any thoughts from anyone about natural gut in their rebel?