Who is more likely to return to form in 2018: Djokovic or Murray

Who is more likely to return to form in 2018

  • Novak Djokovic

    Votes: 49 80.3%

  • Andy Murray

    Votes: 12 19.7%
  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .
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73west

Semi-Pro
I'm curious what people think. I personally am unsure.

On one hand, Murray's injury problems (and the way he has spoken about them) scare me more. Until I see him play healthy tennis for a couple months straight, I'm going to worry that he is on the edge of a medically induced retirement (from tennis, not from a match).

On the other hand, if there is any truth to the idea that Djokovic has non-medical issues playing into his funk, that may be more difficult to come back from. Not to be too negative: if he takes 6 months and finds he is happier and has greater peace of mind without tennis, does he decide to hang it up?
 
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73west

Semi-Pro
NeverQuit said:
Murray is on Wawrinka's level...why compare him to Nole !?
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I'm not comparing how good they are as players, but those are two elite players who are off the tour with injuries. As for why Wawrinka is not in the poll, it's only because I haven't seen much concern at all about his being a lingering or long-term issue.
 
fedtennisphan

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
This player, that player is coming back to form. Did something happen this year to cause so much discussion about which injured player is coming back to form in 2018?
 
TheAssassin

TheAssassin

Legend
fedtennisphan said:
This player, that player is coming back to form. Did something happen this year to cause so much discussion about which injured player is coming back to form in 2018?
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Yes something happened this year to cause so much discussion.

What happened is this player and that player suffered injuries.

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BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Honestly, I would vote for "neither" if that was an option. Forget about Murray, the way Lendl and Judy Murray have been talking, his injury might literally be career ending. Djokovic is the far greater player but has had motivational issues for a year and a half now. No top tennis player has ever come back to slam winning ways once they've had burn out. None. His elbow can and will heal, but will his desire? We'll see.
 
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User123

Hall of Fame
Hard question. Because Murray's 2017 season was not too far from his prime level, let's be honest. From Djokovic there are different expectations.
 
Rafa.the.Magnificent

Rafa.the.Magnificent

G.O.A.T.
I'm going to say Murphy, Murray, although the hip could be bothersome enough for him to hang up his racquet. I think he is the more motivated player.
 
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73west

Semi-Pro
BeatlesFan said:
No top tennis player has ever come back to slam winning ways once they've had burn out. None.
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I feel like Borg, McEnroe and Wilander are the cautionary stories there.
The closest we've seen to "burn out" and a recovery may be Agassi but his situation was quite a bit different. His situation was probably more like that of Jennifer Capriatti.
 
The Fedfather

The Fedfather

Legend
Djokovic said that retirement wasn't on the cards at least for a few years, so I assume he'll try to get to the top of the game again. Perhaps his motivation isn't the same as in previous years but it's there. Andy's injury seems like a much bigger problem than what Novak is dealing with.
 
fedtennisphan

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
TheAssassin said:
Literally the same thing was happening with Federer and Nadal last year, for the same reason. Why trying to cause trouble where there is absolutely none...
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That's not true. Some were saying or hoping either Nadal or Federer especially Federer would be back to form. It was Djokovic and Murray's time hence the rush to get them back to "form" especially after seeing who won.
 
prairiegirl

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
From what has been published regarding Murray's situation, it sounds like his condition is more dire, and may require serious surgery.
 
Mainad

Mainad

Bionic Poster
BeatlesFan said:
Honestly, I would vote for "neither" if that was an option. Forget about Murray, the way Lendl and Judy Murray have been talking, his injury might literally be career ending. Djokovic is the far greater player but has had motivational issues for a year and a half now. No top tennis player has ever come back to slam winning ways once they've had burn out. None. His elbow can and will heal, but will his desire? We'll see.
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Well, you can forget about him as much as you like, we fans on the other hand will continue to hope that he make a good recovery and will, in time, pick up the form he left behind before his injury struck!
 
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Jon Snow

Jon Snow

Semi-Pro
Djokovic will be motivated to win slams knowing Nadal just widened the gap to four slams (Federer obviously got away). I bet that annoys him.

After FO 2016 Djokovic was prolly thinking I've got Nadal where I want him...only 2 slams away.

But Nadal was like

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Mainad

Mainad

Bionic Poster
User123 said:
Hard question. Because Murray's 2017 season was not too far from his prime level, let's be honest. From Djokovic there are different expectations.
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Yes, let's be honest, you should try it. You seriously think he was not too far from his prime level after only making a single semi-final at any of the Slams when the only other year he didn't make a Slam or Master's final after hitting his prime was in 2014 following his back surgery ???:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Djokovic2011

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Jon Snow said:
Djokovic will be motivated to win slams knowing Nadal just widened the gap to four slams (Federer obviously got away). I bet that annoys him.

After FO 2016 Djokovic was prolly thinking I've got Nadal where I want him...only 2 slams away.

But Nadal was like

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Hmm, something tells me he has far more important things to concern himself with these days.
 
Antonio Puente

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
Like Nadal and Fed, Djoker and Murray will always be connected. It's hard to say one name without the other, so they will probably either both come back or both fade away.
 
Mainad

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Djokovic2011 said:
That as well as his charity work and the small matter of ensuring he comes back fully fit to the tour next year. I imagine Nadal adding to his slam count is one of the last things on his mind with everything else he has to juggle at the moment!
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Is he heavily engaged in charity work at the moment then?
 
Djokovic2011

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Mainad said:
Is he heavily engaged in charity work at the moment then?
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Well I assume so given what I read last week about him opening a restaurant for the needy. And even if he isn't I'd imagine having a two month old baby is more than enough to keep him preoccupied!
 
Noelan

Noelan

Legend
Antonio Puente said:
Like Nadal and Fed, Djoker and Murray will always be connected. It's hard to say one name without the other, so they will probably either both come back or both fade away.
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With such level of generalization , you won the most stupid post of 2017 award (which is incredibly difficult task at this board)
Very poor trolling skills
 
Mainad

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Djokovic2011 said:
Well I assume so given what I read last week about him opening a restaurant for the needy. And even if he isn't I'd imagine having a two month old baby is more than enough to keep him preoccupied!
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All the same, I doubt either will stand in the way of him returning to the tour if and when he feels fit enough. He has said how much he can't wait to get back playing again so I assume fitness is still the main priority for him at the moment.
 
Antonio Puente

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
Noelan said:
With such level of generalization , you won the most stupid post of 2017 award (which is incredibly difficult task at this board)
Very poor trolling skills
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What?

Murray and Djoker are not, have not been connected? What player would Djoker be more connected to than Murray?
 
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papertank

Hall of Fame
Murray's injuries seem to be more serious. Djokovic seems like he had a bit of nagging injury but mainly just wanted a break from the tennis world to regain his motivation and love for the sport. So I'd say Djokovic will have the more inspired comeback. Murray will probably be taking it easy for a while, before really ramping up his form.
 
ibbi

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
One has a primarily physical problem, one has a primarily mental problem. I guess it depends which is easier to get over.

Hip injuries can destroy careers - see Magnus Norman, Gustavo Kuerten, Fernando Gonzalez to some degree. Nalbandian and Hewitt were never consistently capable of getting good results after their issues either. Murray's obviously a very fit, and conditioned dude, but especially at his age he'll do very, very, very well to get back to anywhere near the same sort of level as he was before.

With Novak I think it primarily depends on what is going on between the ears. On one hand you can say it's an easier fix, on the other hand it is harder.
 
Steve0904

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic because he's simply a better player. Although you could say Murray only because he doesn't have as far to go to get back to what people consider his best. ;)
 
Gary Duane

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
Yikes, could not see results until I voted. Thought it might be even.

Voted for Novak, but the real answer is: "Who is more likely to recover from injuries first?"
 
Mainad

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Gary Duane said:
Yikes, could not see results until I voted. Thought it might be even.

Voted for Novak, but the real answer is: "Who is more likely to recover from injuries first?"
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Well, I guess whoever's more likely to recover from injuries first is the one more likely to return to form in 2018. :cool:
 
Mainad

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Steve0904 said:
Djokovic because he's simply a better player. Although you could say Murray only because he doesn't have as far to go to get back to what people consider his best. ;)
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So, in your view, it's not as far for Murray as it would be for Djokovic to get back to where they were at the end of 2016? :cool:
 
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EdSWright

Professional
BeatlesFan said:
Honestly, I would vote for "neither" if that was an option. Forget about Murray, the way Lendl and Judy Murray have been talking, his injury might literally be career ending. Djokovic is the far greater player but has had motivational issues for a year and a half now. No top tennis player has ever come back to slam winning ways once they've had burn out. None. His elbow can and will heal, but will his desire? We'll see.
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But in the past when burnt out players came back, the game had moved on. Currently, the game's going backwards.
 
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