Will Roddick be #2 after Wimbledon?

[lambielspins]

Does anybody else think Roddick will be #2 in the World by after Wimbledon? He is already in a good spot, #7 in the World true but he within 155 point of 4th place Ljubicic, and within 410 points of #3 Davydenko. He is just over 2000 points back of Nadal.

Think about, last year Roddick lost in the round of 16 at Pacific Life, and the quarters of Nasdaq. The way he is playing now he could be in the semis or finals if he doesnt draw Fed. Nadal last year lost in the semis of Pacific Life and 1st round of Nasdaq, a quarterfinal and a round of 16 this year wont change much for him, and that is about how he conceivably will do right now.

Then Nadal has to defend winning 2 Masters on clay and the French Open, it will be hard for him to dominate on clay like he has in the past 2 years, he just isnt confident now and Federer is on a mission this years clay court season. Look for him to not dominate on clay like the last 2 years and to lose even more points to Roddick even if Roddick does nothing on the clay, which he probably wont.

Then at Wimbledon, wow Roddick lost 4th round last year and Nadal was in the finals last year. Look for Roddick to pick up lots of points on Nadal here.

So does anyone else think that by after Wimbledon Roddick will be #2?

 

[Jedi Knight]

I think Nadal will do well enough in clay court season to hang on to #2 untli hard court season. If Andy does well during the hard court season, he could get to #2 by the end of the year, though.

 

[Zaragoza]

I don´t think so. Nadal may lose some points on clay, let´s see Wimbledon...but the gap with Roddick and others is huge.

 

[Thor]

No by a mile

 

[lambielspins]

Well Andy did do well on the hard court season last year. He reached the U.S Open final and won Cincinnati. I suppose he could still gain more points, but it is really hard to do well at both Cinncinati and Canada it seems, and winning the U.S Open wont be easy obviously. Nadal lost in the quarters or 4th round of all 3 events so it wont be easy to see him doing worse. So overall it wont be easy to pass Nadal during the hard court season if he isnt there by after Wimbledon.

 

[Sagittar]

IMO Roddick will improve his rank but nit enough to take the #2 spot from Nadal who's likely to get a lot of points in the clay season ..

 

[The tennis guy]

He is just over 2000 points back of Nadal.

What you don't realize is 2000 points is a huge gap. It is equivalent of Roddick wins both French and Wimbledon and Nadal loses in first round of both events. All other tournaments will NOT make up 2000 points in 6 months unless he wins most of them. We know he won't because Federer will be there in those big events.

 

[tonysk83]

By the end of Wimbledon, Roddick will be 3 imo.

 

[Nadal_Freak]

Nope. Roddick will always be a hard court specialist and is horrible on clay.

 

[BigServer1]

Nope. Roddick will always be a hard court specialist and is horrible on clay.

Hmmm...seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. Roddick has gotten father in the last two majors, has won more tourneys and made more finals after Wimbledon than Nadal has. He may be horrible on clay, but he's a big threat on the other three surfaces, which account for 2/3rds of the season. Nadal can have all the clay titles he wants, but he's gonna have to win/make some finals on HC events if he wants to stay #2.

 

[SER]

Nope. Roddick will always be a hard court specialist and is horrible on clay.

I believe he won a tournament on clay last year didn't he? Houston?? I'm going off memory...

 

[Nadal_Freak]

lol at bringing up Roddick in Houston. Playing against other hard court specialist. You have to come to Europe to find the real clay courters.

 

[MoFed]

I'm not sure that it is mathematically possible for Andy to get to No. 2. By tomorrow, he should be ranked No. 5 with his performance in AO maybe four. But by Nadal being a clay court specialist, he has the edge going into the upcoming clay court season. With that he has a lot of points to defend between now and the French and his play has not been that sharp thus far this year. Conceivibly Andy could close the gap if Nadal has a bad clay court season and does not reach the finals to Wimbledon. The likelihood of a bad clay court season is slim, but the likelihood of not reaching the Wimbledon finals again would be possible.

 

[malakas]

No,I don't think so.I don't think he will be even no.3 after Wimbledon.

But oh well,he can at least easily defend his points from Rolland Garros!All he has to do is show up!

 

[idj49]

Andy will be ranked #4 tomorrow only 110 points behind #3 Davydenko, depending on how well he does and how poorly Nadal does it is mathmatically possible for Andy to take the #2 spot. I don't know if he will though.

 

[donnyz89]

Nadal is a little bit shaky but once clay season hits, he will widen the gap, but roddick becoming #2 after the US open is not impossible. mind you that rafa has a lot of hardcourt points to defend and he is no longer feared on hardcourt, even some grinders can grind him out such as gonzo.

 

[malakas]

Andy will be ranked #4 tomorrow only 110 points behind #3 Davydenko, depending on how well he does and how poorly Nadal does it is mathmatically possible for Andy to take the #2 spot. I don't know if he will though.

yes but only 5 points ahead of Gonzalez who btw plays Vina del Mar this week!

 

[The Grand Slam]

Actually, yes. I think he will.

 

[tlm]

Roddick has no chance of getting to #2.

 

[Nadal_Freak]

Nadal is a little bit shaky but once clay season hits, he will widen the gap, but roddick becoming #2 after the US open is not impossible. mind you that rafa has a lot of hardcourt points to defend and he is no longer feared on hardcourt, even some grinders can grind him out such as gonzo.

Sinve when has Gonzo become a grinder? He is a go for broke type of player just like Blake and Berdych. Nadal beats the grinders on all surfaces.

 

[tennis_hand]

Look at the gap between #2 and #3.
It is possible for Roddick only if Nadal tumbles.

 

[psamp14]

i believe roddick is currently #4, but he wont gain any serious ground until after the clay court season

however if he plays an average clay court season he will likely be #4, with gonzo close at #5 if gonzo plays like he has in the past 3-4 months

nadal will hold on to #2 for the rest of this year, i think, but by the end of the year it might be by a very small margin

 

[idj49]

yes but only 5 points ahead of Gonzalez who btw plays Vina del Mar this week!

Gonzalez is defending semi-final points, he needs to make the final to gain anymore points. He's probably going to be pretty tired so that's asking a lot. That's if he plays at all, he's also has Davis Cup coming up remember?

 

[alienhamster]

Roddick will be #3, and very possibly #2, after Wimbledon is over.

He has TONS of points to gain between now and Wimbledon. Davydenko and Nadal have a TON to defend.

I get the feeling that Nadal will be a little more vulnerable on clay this year, particularly to Federer. And there's no way he's defending his points at Wimbledon. Nope. Not the way he's playing so far, and the fact that "the playbook" is clearly out on him.

Roddick's got his confidence back, and a much better game overall. He ought to get a lot of points on grass this year. And I think he's due for a deeper run at Roland Garros this year. Maybe only 3rd or 4th round, but everything will help him.

Sadly, though, he's still going to keep losing to Federer. Just like everyone else.

 

[capriatifanatic]

Roddick will beat Federer someday. I think he has a 40% shot of winning Wimbledon or the U.S Open. Federer will either win one or both of those events, if he does not win both very likely then Roddick wins one of them.

I knew Roddick wasnt going to beat Federer at the Australian Open by the time they played in the semis, since everyone was happening to give Roddick a swelled head and giving Federer incentive by dismissiveness of him to the extent Roddick was being coronated with the title-

1)too much being made of an exhibition win, I said it before and I will say it again, not bragging since I was right, just saying you can see the proof yourself, exhibitions mean NOTHING from a competitive sense. It was dumb for everyone to make something of that, it gave Roddick a sense of delusion and Federer a reason to be extra motivated hearing people overplay an exhibition match. Exhibitions are fun matches, there are some ridiculous exhibition match results, not this one, but other ones, that prove this. For example Seles beating Graf 6-2, 6-0 in a grass court exhibition, ROTFL!! Or Agassi beating Federer by an embarassing 6-4, 6-2 score in the 2004 Koyoong round robin.

2)ESPN and the American networks all hyping Roddick to win, telling him how amazing he is and how he must feel like nobody can stop him, asking Federer if there is anyway he can beat the unstoppable Roddick in interviews, etc...

3)Fish tanking his match with Roddick, which Federer probably saw, then telling reporters he had played his "best match ever"(please)and gushing about how nobody can touch Roddick the way he played against him, when he obviously tanked the match to even an untrained viewer.

I believe #3 was the nail in the coffin which sent Roddick on court on this floaty cloud of grandeur, and Federer with a chip on his shoulder. What happened when they came on court was a shock to the system probably.

 

[tennis_hand]

Roddick will beat Federer someday. I think he has a 40% shot of winning Wimbledon or the U.S Open. Federer will either win one or both of those events, if he does not win both very likely then Roddick wins one of them.

I knew Roddick wasnt going to beat Federer at the Australian Open by the time they played in the semis, since everyone was happening to give Roddick a swelled head and giving Federer incentive by dismissiveness of him to the extent Roddick was being coronated with the title-

1)too much being made of an exhibition win, I said it before and I will say it again, not bragging since I was right, just saying you can see the proof yourself, exhibitions mean NOTHING from a competitive sense. It was dumb for everyone to make something of that, it gave Roddick a sense of delusion and Federer a reason to be extra motivated hearing people overplay an exhibition match. Exhibitions are fun matches, there are some ridiculous exhibition match results, not this one, but other ones, that prove this. For example Seles beating Graf 6-2, 6-0 in a grass court exhibition, ROTFL!! Or Agassi beating Federer by an embarassing 6-4, 6-2 score in the 2004 Koyoong round robin.

2)ESPN and the American networks all hyping Roddick to win, telling him how amazing he is and how he must feel like nobody can stop him, asking Federer if there is anyway he can beat the unstoppable Roddick in interviews, etc...

3)Fish tanking his match with Roddick, which Federer probably saw, then telling reporters he had played his "best match ever"(please)and gushing about how nobody can touch Roddick the way he played against him, when he obviously tanked the match to even an untrained viewer.

I believe #3 was the nail in the coffin which sent Roddick on court on this floaty cloud of grandeur, and Federer with a chip on his shoulder. What happened when they came on court was a shock to the system probably.

Yes. Fish looks even more disgraceful now. We're happy with this.

 

[alienhamster]

Capriati--

I actually agree with most of your post. I gave a longer explanation in another thread, but it wasn't just the exo that was "inflating" Roddick's confidence. It was also the US Open final, the Shanghai performance, and a practice set against Fed during the Aussie Open this year. All signs pointed to Roddick playing better and better against Federer.

But Andy just couldn't hold it together. He hit the panic button, lost track of his serves, hit crappy approaches. And then Fed-bot kicked in and, badda bing, he's done. I've never seen him play that badly so late in a slam. Ever. It HAD to be the puncturing of his (over)confidence.

Maybe Andy will beat him someday. I still think it's more likely that a Murray-type will take out Fed early at some point and then open the door for Roddick at Wimbledon or the US Open. That will be the other slam that he wins.

 

[superbooga]

It's very possible, since Roddick performed poorly the first half of 2006. He could very well gain 1000 - 1500 points with a strong performance. However, the gap is still 2000 points, so Nadal would have to perform poorly over the same strech.

 

[capriatifanatic]

Capriati--

I actually agree with most of your post. I gave a longer explanation in another thread, but it wasn't just the exo that was "inflating" Roddick's confidence. It was also the US Open final, the Shanghai performance, and a practice set against Fed during the Aussie Open this year. All signs pointed to Roddick playing better and better against Federer.

But Andy just couldn't hold it together. He hit the panic button, lost track of his serves, hit crappy approaches. And then Fed-bot kicked in and, badda bing, he's done. I've never seen him play that badly so late in a slam. Ever. It HAD to be the puncturing of his (over)confidence.

Maybe Andy will beat him someday. I still think it's more likely that a Murray-type will take out Fed early at some point and then open the door for Roddick at Wimbledon or the US Open. That will be the other slam that he wins.

Ok you are right, there were more matches to go by then the Koyoong match. I just was a believer at the time the Koyoong match itself meant nothing, not because I was being biased and unaccepting of a Federer loss and some of you may have believed, but in following exhibition matches past I have never seen reason to believe the results of them have any meaning. I mentioned a couple of the outrageous results, not the Federer-Roddick result, but other results that are just so out there. Plus he was serve-volleying on his 2nd serve, things like that which from him, I also dont believe really. However you are right, there were other matches to show momentum in the matchup for Roddick like the U.S open then the year end Masters.

I think there was too much pressure on him to win this match, he looked paralyzed with nerves walking on court and Federer looked calm. Actually in the first set they both played so so for most of it, then Federer kicked into overtime once he snuck out the last break to win the set, and Roddick went downhill from there. He looked like he was baraling in off everything, but in the first set he was losing almost all the baseline rallies in the first set, so he obviously felt he needed to start attacking which was probably his plan anyway. He did not wait for the right approaches or plan his appraoches and coverages carefully though.

No I dont think Murray will take Federer out in a slam in the near future. I can understand why you think that mind you, he did beat Federer last year even if Federer was worn out for that match, and he shows constant improvement of late, and is coached by a tennis guru, and was very impressive in his loss vs Nadal here in Australia, and you could well be right even though I disagree. However Federer was too worn out to move or serve in that Cincinnati match I felt, Murray actually lost his serve something like 5 times but broke Federer two more times then that, if he cant do a better job holding his serve then that though vs Federer he wont have any shot to beat him on a normal day. Also while his match with Nadal is impressive you pretty much know any quality opponent on a hard court now Nadal will either lose or be pushed hard. I still think Murray is good and those are still impressive showings, but I dont think he is one of the best ones to look at to take out Federer for Roddick right now at a slam.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

not possible to vote "neither nadal, nor roddick" ?...

 

[Cfidave]

No chance. He will be very lucky to stay in the top 5. Currently, anyone in the top 15, could beat Roddick. Conversly, Roddick has a terrible record against other top 10 players.

 

[scholarlyg]

Roddick can gain alot of points. he can win in San Jose (lost in semis last year), Memphis (lost in quarters last year). He's also got a shot at making the semis ro final of Indian Wells (lost in r16) and Miami (lost in quarters) depending on if hes on federers half of the draw. He can also gain points from Houston, Roland Garros, Queens Club, and Wimbledon. Nadal has a ton of points to defend. Even if he were to make it to the finals of Monte Carlo, Rome, and Roland Garros, he'd still lose points if he lost to fed in all 3 finals. If he isnt no.2 after wimbledon he probably will be by the end of the year.

 

[bagung]

roddick will not be no 2.........
in my opinion, there is quite a few playes there which is better than him...
nadal, blake, even gonzo can beat roddick easily