Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
And all we're saying is that consistency also comes into the equation and on that score Novak has been the better player by a country mile. There's more to sports than just winning.
Will Stan become a nightmare matchup for Djoko?
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And all we're saying is that consistency also comes into the equation and on that score Novak has been the better player by a country mile. There's more to sports than just winning.
Feather
Legend
On to their next potential slam meeting.
The irony! Feew days ago the forum was contemplating Djojovic will win CYGS it not it has come to whether he will careen grand slam. Even though I was sure he will never win CYGS, I expected him to win French Open.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks Feather but forget it. You can't reason with some of these extreme Djokoturds. (am I allowed to say that word on here?)
They can't seem to admit anything that would make their hero seem less invincible. It would be like us as Federer fans trying to deny that Federer has a bad slam h2h vs Nadal for example if we want to look at the h2h in insolation for some reason.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Stan looks to be at his best on slow surfaces. He looked quite natural at RG. No wonder he won it as a junior. He stood far behind the baseline and just bashed the ball, like old clay specialists. AO and FO may be his best slams while Wimbledon and USO may not be quite as good for him.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
:lol:
Perhaps you should be watching a knitting circle then? The object of any pro sport is to win.
Feather
Legend
Who is even debating that? Djokovic is the best player on tour since 2011.
Of course, there is more to sports than winning. I felt really sad, like how used to feel when Federer loses, when Djokovic cried. I really want him to win RG, he is too good a clay court player not to win it and it would be a travesty of justice if he didn't.
I sincerely hope he will win it next year
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
But consistency is important too. Unless you're one of those who think losing in the first round is better than losing in a final.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Let's not get carried away Feather. :lol:
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't want to continue with this, but here is an answer:
Just watch the "who cares about two extra finals, who cares about masters" and all that thing about "dominant" #1, while cc is talking about the two slams and comparing their latest 1 and a half year. What we are seeing here is an attempt to talk down djokovics achievements outside the slams for the past 18 months while trying to pump up stan and make a case for him.
Not to talk about the disrespect of the sport, wich you can see above. Hilarious and very sad at the same time. Tennis is going downhill if we have supporters who thinks about the sport like this.
Like GabeT said:
We are moving from "Slams are all that matter" to "Winning Slams is all that matter".
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Haha, be honest cc0 - it would kill you if Novak ever won the French.:lol: I really don't understand why you're so against him winning that tournament.
RacquetAbuse101
Semi-Pro
A travesty of justice, if Djokovic doesn't win RG?
Please, enlighten me on this one...?
Please, enlighten me on this one...?
Feather
Legend
Extra slam finals do matter and masters wins also matter. Djokovic's achievemnts in last eighteen months are fantastic
I couldn't help it, got carried. hehe
Feather
Legend
He is better than many players who won the title atleast once. Unfortunately he came acorss the clay God.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Four semifinals, three finals plus seven Masters 1000s on clay might have something to do with it.
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Guest
I doubt it. I like Stan and his beautiful power tennis, but he's a ball-basher who can blast anyone (including Fed/Nadal/Djokovic) off the court when he's zoning. However, his lack of consistency is the reason why he hasn't been more successful. I'm sure he could have some big wins over Djokovic in the future, but it's not guaranteed. He could simply lose 5 matches in a row to him (including Majors) in a very bad way.
Sometimes, he looks like a club player, who tends to lose to the journeymen, even in Majors (remember FO last year?).
Which is sad, he plays very differently than Djok/Nad/Murray and it's refreshing to see that type of tennis on Tour.
Sometimes, he looks like a club player, who tends to lose to the journeymen, even in Majors (remember FO last year?).
Which is sad, he plays very differently than Djok/Nad/Murray and it's refreshing to see that type of tennis on Tour.
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RacquetAbuse101
Semi-Pro
Yes, Djoker has performed well at RG.
But he hasn't won it, has he?
Sorry, gents, but there is no order of merit in this game.
No brownie points for past achievements and no excuses.
You either win it or you don't, simple as that.
But he hasn't won it, has he?
Sorry, gents, but there is no order of merit in this game.
No brownie points for past achievements and no excuses.
You either win it or you don't, simple as that.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Which is why I'd love it if there was some kind of trophy for being ultra consistent every year. Unfortunately there's not.
RacquetAbuse101
Semi-Pro
I hear you.
There is the ranking, though. You have to be ultra consistent to be no.1 and I can't see anyone taking that away from Djokovic in the foreseeable future.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Lol. The "trophy" is called the player's ranking and it means a hundred billion times more than some metal cup.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
BTW, to answer the original question, he is already a nightmare matchup for Novak at least in slams. Since 2013, this is their H2H:
2013
Australian Open: Djokovic 1-6, 7-5, 6-4, 6-7(5), 12-10
US Open: Djokovic 2-6, 7-6(4), 3-6, 6-3, 6-4
Masters 1000 Paris: Djokovic 6-1, 6-4
ATP World Tour Finals: Djokovic 6-3, 6-3
2014
Australian Open Wawrinka: 2-6, 6-4, 6-2, 3-6, 9-7
ATP World Tour Finals: Djokovic 6-3, 6-0
2015
Australian Open Djokovic 7-6(1), 3-6, 6-4, 4-6, 6-0
Roland Garros: Wawrinka 4-6, 6-4, 6-3, 6-4
2013
Australian Open: Djokovic 1-6, 7-5, 6-4, 6-7(5), 12-10
US Open: Djokovic 2-6, 7-6(4), 3-6, 6-3, 6-4
Masters 1000 Paris: Djokovic 6-1, 6-4
ATP World Tour Finals: Djokovic 6-3, 6-3
2014
Australian Open Wawrinka: 2-6, 6-4, 6-2, 3-6, 9-7
ATP World Tour Finals: Djokovic 6-3, 6-0
2015
Australian Open Djokovic 7-6(1), 3-6, 6-4, 4-6, 6-0
Roland Garros: Wawrinka 4-6, 6-4, 6-3, 6-4
G A S
Hall of Fame
what a thing, no CYGS for novak... one would really need to be consistent for an entire year for it...
but many were questioning the supposed weak era, and how that would make a CYGS of novak be not such a great thing since federer and nadal are past their prime...
it goes both ways, hahaha
Don't bother, he's hilarious and hopeless.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
He already is.
torpantennis
Legend
Djokovic is one-slam-a-year player. Majoring in minors. Get over it and move on.
torpantennis
Legend
Some though are always second. Or major in minors. :lol:
torpantennis
Legend
Check his finals records in slams and outside of slams during the last three years. Why the HUGE difference?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Stan already is a tough match-up for Nole in slams, where it matters the most.
However, Djokovic is more likely to win one of the next 2 slams than Stan.
However, Djokovic is more likely to win one of the next 2 slams than Stan.
Paul Murphy
Hall of Fame
DerekNoleFam1
Hall of Fame
Djokovic is one-slam-a-year player. Majoring in minors. Get over it and move on.
The year is not over yet, so this familiar phrase still has a chance to be turned on it's head this year.
On Stan, he is a hard matchup for Novak, but don't believe he can do it continuously for much longer.
