Williams sisters being sued

Kevin Patrick

Hall of Fame
Tennis superstar Serena Williams testified in a Palm Beach County court Monday that she did not agree to play in a 2001 Battle of the Sexes tennis match that never happened.

"I told him that I would not participate in this event," Williams testified, recalling a surprise call from Keith Rhodes of Palm Beach Gardens, who was organizing the match.

"I told him I don't know anything about this event," Williams told jurors in a breach of contract trial now embroiling her and sister Venus Williams.

Rhodes and his colleague, Carol Clarke, accuse the Williams sisters, their father, Richard Williams, and his company, Richard Williams Tennis & Associates, of backing out of a promise to participate in "Battle of the Sexes II -- The Wow Event."

Venus Williams is expected to testify today in a trial expected to last about a month.

The crux of the case is whether Richard Williams entered into a contract on behalf of his daughters to participate and whether he had the authority to do so, said attorney F. Malcolm Cunningham Jr., who represents the sisters.

Clarke and Rhodes' attorney, John Romano, told jurors the Williams family "tossed aside" his clients after Richard Williams represented himself as his daughters' manager and signed a contract to that effect.

Clarke and Rhodes, principals in a company known as CCKR, maintained the event would raise $45 million, with 80 percent of the profit going to Richard Williams' company.

Richard Williams put possible contract terms in writing but maintains what he signed was a letter and not a contract, his attorney said. Serena Williams testified her father was not her manager.

"My dad has always done things for me as a dad," she said.

The tennis star acknowledged, though, that her father was listed as "father/manager" on a 1999 agreement for a public service announcement. Richard Williams also was listed as her manager on the Women's Tennis Association Web site in 2000 and 2001, Romano said.

Serena Williams also said someone else signed her name on two documents involving a women's tennis company Clarke was setting up. Serena Williams said her father's name, signed on one of those documents, "looks like his signature."

The tennis star said she didn't remember ever discussing the Battle of the Sexes tournament with her father.

Williams did remember a call from Rhodes, whom she said she had met briefly in her father's New York hotel room, urging her to meet him to discuss the tournament.

"First and foremost, I found it odd he was calling my cell phone," Serena Williams said. "I felt scared and pressured to keep talking to him after I [told him] that I did not want to do this event and I never wanted to do this event," she said.

During a break in her testimony, Cunningham told Circuit Judge Jeffrey Winikoff that Rhodes was "making faces" at Serena Williams while she was on the witness stand. Winikoff said he didn't observe Rhodes making such expressions, and Rhodes later brushed aside the accusation.
 

norcal

Legend
$45 million, 80% of which would go to Richard's company, is a good incentive to forge your daughter's signature.
 

Andy Zarzuela

Professional
Whoa, this seems kind of extreme....considering it's just a tennis exhibition....I'm kind of confused about the whole ordeal...
 

bigserving

Hall of Fame
norcal said:
$45 million, 80% of which would go to Richard's company, is a good incentive to forge your daughter's signature.

$45 million gross minus Serena's fee, Venus' fee, other players fees other expenses advertising, rent, officials, food, transportation, etc.

80% of the net profit would go to dad. Still big bucks. Probably inflated for the sake of the lawsuit.
 

Deuce

Banned
"During a break in her testimony, Cunningham told Circuit Judge Jeffrey Winikoff that Rhodes was "making faces" at Serena Williams while she was on the witness stand. Winikoff said he didn't observe Rhodes making such expressions, and Rhodes later brushed aside the accusation."

I'm afraid that the above puts the whole mess into the proper perspective.

I wonder who the other sex was 'supposed' to be...
 
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splink779

Guest
John McEnroe addressed in his book how the Williams sisters had no respect for the mens game. He said they refused to play an exhibition against him organized by Donald Trump, even though they had bragged earlier that they could beat a pro ranked male. McEnroe said he would be able to beat either easily, as would any top ranked college player or any pro. I just thought that was funny and a bit relative to this, but I beleive it was in 1999.
 

@wright

Hall of Fame
When I read this, I figured the Williams sisters were walking down the street on a sunny day and their bling bling blinded someone in a car, causing a wreck.
 

Tchocky

Hall of Fame
Guilty! The Williams Sisters are bad representatives of the game. Despite their awesome talent and athletic ability, I don't feel they are good ambassadors of the sport. Richard Williams continues to make race a factor whenever anything bad happens.
 

Slazenger

Professional
Tchocky said:
Guilty! The Williams Sisters are bad representatives of the game. Despite their awesome talent and athletic ability, I don't feel they are good ambassadors of the sport. Richard Williams continues to make race a factor whenever anything bad happens.

Guilty because they are bad representatives of the game or because their dad makes race a factor when anything bad happens? (incidentally I don't see anywhere in the OP post where Richard does this).

Think before you type. Even then, after typing read your posts to make sure they make sense.
 

Kevin Patrick

Hall of Fame
The plot thickens:

Venus Williams had never heard of a battle of the sexes tennis match she had supposedly agreed to play in until she found a letter in her mailbox threatening legal action if she didn't participate, the tennis all-star told a Palm Beach County jury Wednesday.

"It pretty much ruined my day and almost my life," Williams testified in a breach of contract trial over a tennis event that never happened. "That's when I heard about the battle of the sexes for the first time

Her father, Richard Williams, said he discussed the event with the promoter, in part because in return the promoter promised to try to help Williams reconcile with his wife, Oracene. But, Williams testified, he never shared that with anyone else, including his daughters or his wife.

"It's too embarrassing to tell daughters that," he said.

Richard and Oracene Williams divorced in 2002, according to county records.

Carol Clarke and Keith Rhodes, principals in a company known as CCKR, have sued Venus Williams and her superstar sister, Serena, along with their father and his company, Richard Williams Tennis & Associates, accusing them of backing out after promising to participate in a 2001 tournament dubbed "Battle of the Sexes II The Wow Event."

CCKR contended the event would raise $45 million, with 80 percent of the profit going to Richard Williams' company. An attorney for the Williams sisters maintains the pair never agreed to any deal and had nothing to gain from beating "some retired 45-year-old man" on the tennis court.

The central issue is whether Richard Williams entered into a contract for his daughters to participate, and if he did, whether he had the legal authority to do so.

Clarke and Rhodes' attorney, John Romano, maintains that Richard Williams represented himself as his daughters' manager. Romano suggested in his questioning that Richard Williams negotiated deals for his daughters and the Williams sisters deferred to him on business matters. Though Richard Williams insisted otherwise, a videotaped negotiation between him and Clarke showed the two discussing terms of their contract, such as Williams expecting weekly hand-delivered reports on the event's progress and keeping terms of their deal confidential.

As the 10-minute videotape began playing for jurors, Richard Williams leaned back in his chair, propping his leg over the defense table. F. Malcolm Cunningham Jr., who represents the sisters, motioned for Williams put his leg down.

Venus Williams testified her father had been her manager before she turned 18 in 1998, but that he was not her manager at the time of the battle of the sexes negotiations and didn't have authority to negotiate on her behalf.

"I've been living in my own house since I was 19," she said, adding that she bought the property at 18 without telling her father.

"He didn't know anything about it," Venus Williams said, breaking into a broad smile on the witness stand and laughing while her father chuckled at the counsel table.

"You've been your own person for a long time?" asked her attorney.

"Yes, and it's great," she said, still smiling. "I love it."

It was one of several light moments while the tennis star was on the stand. She bantered with the attorneys during questioning and balked coyly before revealing her age of 25.

At one point, when Romano asked if Venus Williams knew if anyone else was an officer or board member in her father's company, Richard Williams Tennis & Associates, she burst out laughing uncontrollably.

"I think my mom used to work for him," Venus Williams said before cracking up again, saying something about divorce in between laughs.

"I think she used to work for RWTA," she said after composing herself. Her father and sister smiled as Venus Williams laughed, while some audience members looked confused.

Other humorous moments were more clear-cut.

Venus Williams said she didn't remember meeting Rhodes during the U.S Open in New York, having dinner with him and others, or having Rhodes introduce her to radio personality Tom Joyner.

"But I remember meeting J. Anthony Brown," she offered with a smile.

"He murdered the hits," she said later, explaining that Brown, a comedian and co-host of the Tom Joyner Morning Show, changes the lyrics from others' hit songs "to make it funny."

Richard Williams returns to the witness stand this morning.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-pwilliams08dec08,0,4386627.story
 

norcal

Legend
Wow. Richard let them videotape negotiations. Sounds like the sisters knew nothing about it. And someone forged Serena's name.

Even if the jury finds that Richard was acting as the sisters' manager and therefore they are jointly liable for damages, the sisters can turn around and sue pops/manager and get their money back. Just because he manages them doesn't mean he can make deals behind their back and forge their signatures.

Richard: 'I wasn't doing it for the money, I was doing it to get Orascene back'. Yeah whatever.

Interesting to see this develop.
 

barry

Hall of Fame
norcal said:
Wow. Richard let them videotape negotiations. Sounds like the sisters knew nothing about it. And someone forged Serena's name.

Even if the jury finds that Richard was acting as the sisters' manager and therefore they are jointly liable for damages, the sisters can turn around and sue pops/manager and get their money back. Just because he manages them doesn't mean he can make deals behind their back and forge their signatures.

Richard: 'I wasn't doing it for the money, I was doing it to get Orascene back'. Yeah whatever.

Interesting to see this develop.

He is still liable, he was the president of their corporation!
 

norcal

Legend
barry said:
He is still liable, he was the president of their corporation!
You misread my post. The promoters are suing Richard, Venus and Serena. For Venus and Serena to be liable the jury would have to find that Richard was their agent at that time. If the jury finds Richard was not their manager then only Richard would be liable (if the jury finds Richard breached the contract, if there is a contract).

Let the case be decided before we start calling Richard a thief. And besides, even if found liable he is not a thief unless they gave him money upfront. It sounds like they are seeking damages for money they hoped to make from this contract or other projects they passed up on to devote their time to the Battle of the Sexes.
 

NalboRulz

New User
For once I feel sorry for the sistas. They may not be the most gracious ladies in the tour, but looks like this was just their crackhead dad making deals in the shadows without letting them know. If they didn't sign anything the only one responsible would be him. Besides the fact that the amount is outrageous for what would have been just a silly exhibition match (but aren't all legal claims like that?)
 

Deuce

Banned
Venus is supposed to be the deeper and more intelligent of the two, huh?

Kevin's post reads like a rejected script from an old Saturday Night Live episode.

But it happened in real life. Well... sort of.

The entire Williams family exists in a totally different realm.
 

Objective Danny

Hall of Fame
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Venus Williams mocks the Criminal Justice System.
 

Kevin Patrick

Hall of Fame
Enjoy, Deuce:

WEST PALM BEACH — Richard Williams fought back tears on Thursday while telling a jury how a trusted friend duped him into signing a document agreeing to have his famous tennis-playing daughters participate in a battle-of-the-sexes tennis match.

"I actually considered her my sister," Williams said of Carol Clarke, who is seeking millions from him and his daughters in a breach-of-contract lawsuit. "I had no idea she would deceive or decept me."

Williams asked for a break to compose himself and left the Palm Beach County courtroom wiping tears from his face with a paper towel his lawyer handed him.

Williams spent all day explaining why his name appeared on documents and e-mails agreeing that his daughters, Venus and Serena Williams, would compete in the "Battle of the Sexes — The Wow Event," scheduled for December 2001.

According to the agreement between him, Clarke and her partner, Keith Rhodes, the match would net at least $45 million.

His company, Richard Williams Tennis & Associates, would reap 80 percent of the proceeds an estimated $36 million.

Despite a videotape that shows him working out details of the deal with Clarke, Williams insisted he wasn't negotiating a contract.

"I was just getting a clarification," he said of a February 2001 videotaped meeting in the "Dog House" at his Palm Beach Gardens home. "Negotiation to me means two people with different attorneys trying to negotiate a deal."

He insisted the agreement was nothing more than a letter Clarke was to use to snare a meeting with top officials at IMG, a giant sports-management agency that had exclusive rights to make deals for his daughters.

During a March 5, 2001, meeting at Gaines Park in West Palm Beach, Williams objected to some of the language in the letter, he testified.

Clarke left, saying she would change the wording that said Williams' company had the legal right to commit his daughters to the match, Williams said.

When Clarke returned, he said, he put the agreement on the hood of her car and signed it without checking to see if the changes were made.

"I had no reason to see if the words had been taken out because I trusted her," he said of Clarke, the sister of a tennis pro in Palm Beach Gardens who he met in the mid-1990s.

But he wasn't completely honest with Clarke, he testified.

On the videotape, he tells her: "Venus and Serena are aware of what I'm doing."

That, he testified, wasn't true.

He said he lied because Clarke told him that if he agreed to the match she would help him reunite with his estranged wife, Oracene.

"I was very much in love with my wife, and according to Ms. Clarke she had conversations with my wife and she could help us get together. At the time I loved my wife so much and my wife was not talking to me.... I wanted back my wife. I wanted back my family."

When it became clear Clarke could not help him, he filed for divorce, Williams testified. It was finalized in 2002.

He said he also agreed to help Clarke with the match because she had told him she needed money to pay for cancer treatments.

Attorney John Romano, who represents Clarke and Rhodes, said Clarke has never had cancer.

Romano presented other documents and e-mails, trying to prove that Williams did have the power to negotiate for his daughters and that they were aware of his activities.

Earlier this week, the sisters said they knew nothing about the Battle of the Sexes.

They also said their father was not empowered to make deals on their behalf. Both were at a charity match in Washington, D.C., Thursday.

Williams, who is also seeking at least $500,000 in damages from the would-be promoters, said he believed the match would have been successful if Clarke had followed through.

"I think she had a great deal — an unbelievable deal. There was a lot of money involved, and I think we would have all done very well."

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2005/12/09/s3c_williams_1209.html
 

Deuce

Banned
Amazing.

The Williams family wants everyone to take them seriously - in whatever role they are playing at a given time - but they seem to take nothing seriously. Nothing but themselves, that is - laughing at everything and everyone else. Is this not the very definition of pure arrogance?

Although this entire 'trial' is beyond pathetic, it's still nice to see that at least some of their arrogance is now biting them in the ass.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
guess the deal went down when they realized that no one would pay $48mil for it ... that is stratospheric levels ...
 

craigUM

New User
norcal said:
Wow. Richard let them videotape negotiations. Sounds like the sisters knew nothing about it. And someone forged Serena's name.

Even if the jury finds that Richard was acting as the sisters' manager and therefore they are jointly liable for damages, the sisters can turn around and sue pops/manager and get their money back. Just because he manages them doesn't mean he can make deals behind their back and forge their signatures.

Richard: 'I wasn't doing it for the money, I was doing it to get Orascene back'. Yeah whatever.

Interesting to see this develop.



You are half-correct. It is true that the case depends on whether Richard is acting as an agent for Venus and Serena. But agency is not limited to actual authority. Even if Richard did not have actual authority to contract on behalf of them, the sisters can still be jointly and severally liable if Richard had apparent authority to act. That can be found based on the actions of the sisters. (i.e. has Richard entered contracts on their behalf in the past). So if the 3rd party (promoter in this case) reasonably believed that Richard had authority to contract for the sisters, actual authority does not matter.
 

barry

Hall of Fame
I personally don’t think ignorance should be an excuse. They should settle out of court, and admit wrong doing.
 

Kevin Patrick

Hall of Fame
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- A woman who wanted to promote a "Battle of the Sexes" tennis match in 2001 starring Venus and Serena Williams testified Monday that their father claimed repeatedly he had full authority to negotiate the proposed event.

Carol Clarke contends in a lawsuit the Williams family broke a contract for the deal. She contradicted earlier testimony by father Richard Williams. He insisted he never said he had the legal right to commit his daughters to play in the match, which never took place.

"He said that he did their business deals for them and he had authority to do their deals," said Clarke, who has known Richard Williams since 1997 and worked with him on past business arrangements. "I absolutely relied on the fact that this was correct, that he had this authority."

The outcome of the lawsuit could hinge on the jury's assessment of a March 2001 document signed by Clarke and Richard Williams that describes the proposal for a Williams sisters match against unidentified male stars.

Richard Williams Tennis & Associates was to get 80 percent of the estimated $45 million in net profits, with Clarke and partner Keith Rhodes to get 20 percent. Clarke and Rhodes are seeking several million dollars in damages from the Williams family in the suit.

Richard Williams had testified that he viewed the document only as an informal letter and that Clarke knew both women were actually represented for business and tennis purposes by the IMG sports talent agency. But Clarke said Richard Williams indicated he would deal with any problems caused by IMG in staging the match.

Clarke also testified that Venus and Serena Williams had previously told her to take any business proposals to their father. She quoted Venus Williams as saying, "He handles all of these things."

Seated alongside her sister, Venus Williams shook her head after hearing those comments. The sisters testified last week they alone had authority to commit to business arrangements since becoming adults and IMG was their sole management company since 1999. They also said they knew nothing of the "Battle of the Sexes" proposal.

Clarke, however, testified that Serena Williams told her before one meeting with Richard Williams about the match that "she was happy to see this going forward."

Clarke, under cross-examination, acknowledged she and Richard Williams had discussed several moneymaking ventures involving the tennis players.

Like the "Battle of the Sexes," none came to fruition. The proposed match fell apart in October 2001 after IMG issued a "cease and desist" letter to Rhodes, informing him it had exclusive rights to manage the sisters' business affairs.

Testimony is expected to continue at least another week.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=ap-williamssisters-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns
 

kooyah

Rookie
What interests me is if or how this will affect the Williams sisters' games. Will they be able to shut it all out on the court and maintain focus (like Graf) or will it negatively impact them?

I mean, I don't see nearly the same level of dedication Steffi had for the game in either of them.
 

pound cat

G.O.A.T.
The father beats the mother, a sister is shot, and now this. S & V may have tons of money, and fame and trophies...but life is/hasn't been easy for them & no wonder they sometimes have trouble focusing on the court .
 

Deuce

Banned
pound cat said:
The father beats the mother, a sister is shot, and now this. S & V may have tons of money, and fame and trophies...but life is/hasn't been easy for them & no wonder they sometimes have trouble focusing on the court .

No, life hasn't been easy for them... but they don't make it easier for themselves, either.

At some point, an adult must take possession of his/her own reins; take responsibility for their actions, and the consequences thereof.
 

Kevin Patrick

Hall of Fame
Mistrial declared in lawsuit against Williams sisters

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- A judge declared a mistrial Tuesday in a lawsuit by promoters claiming that Venus and Serena Williams reneged on a deal to play in a proposed 2001 "Battle of the Sexes" event against male players

Palm Beach Circuit Judge Jeffrey A. Winicoff granted a motion for a mistrial made by John Romano, attorney for promoters Carol Clarke and Keith Rhodes, after almost three weeks of testimony in the lawsuit. It was not immediately clear when or if the case would return to court.

F. Malcolm Cunningham, attorney for the Williams sisters, said the mistrial was declared after one of the attorneys for their father, Richard Williams, asked Clarke if she had accepted money from someone else in return for a percentage of any damages their lawsuit produced.

Winicoff had said in a private conference with attorneys Monday that he did not want that evidence brought before the jury, Cunningham said. Romano, in asking for the mistrial, insisted that the question would unduly prejudice the jury, and Winicoff apparently agreed.

Cunningham, however, said the lawsuit was "frivolous" from the start and that the case may be over.

"The only reason the plaintiff would ask for a mistrial is that they were losing miserably," Cunningham said.

Romano did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment on the decision.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_y...=ap-williamssisters-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Kevin Patrick said:
Mistrial declared in lawsuit against Williams sisters

in such cases of mistrials, I guess there's no hope for any of the two parties to recover moneys spent on the trial, because no damages are assessed, correct?

if so, expensive for both sides.
 

pound cat

G.O.A.T.
Deuce said:
No, life hasn't been easy for them... but they don't make it easier for themselves, either.

At some point, an adult must take possession of his/her own reins; take responsibility for their actions, and the consequences thereof.


Easy for a person to say if their greatest challenges in life are should i go to college or not, or should I leave home and get my own place.

Then there is also the distinct possibility that this is life as they know it..good stuff, bad stuff and they have absolutely no interest in "taking possession of their own reins" Family, no matter what it is, is primary...the old bood, water thing.
 

pound cat

G.O.A.T.
Mistrial declared against Williams' tsn.ca Dec 14

Serena and Venus Williams

Associated Press

12/13/2005 12:58:02 PM

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) - A judge declared a mistrial Tuesday in a lawsuit by promoters claiming that Venus and Serena Williams reneged on a deal to play in a proposed 2001 Battle of the Sexes event against male tennis players.

Palm Beach Circuit Judge Jeffrey A. Winicoff granted a motion for a mistrial made by John Romano, lawyer for promoters Carol Clarke and Keith Rhodes, after almost three weeks of testimony in their lawsuit. It was not immediately clear when or if the case would return to court.

F. Malcolm Cunningham, lawyer for the Williams sisters, said the mistrial was declared after one of the lawyers for their father, Richard Williams, asked Clarke if someone else had given her money in return for a percentage of any damages their lawsuit produced.

Winicoff had said in a private conference with lawyers Monday that he did not want that evidence brought before the jury, Cunningham said. Romano, in asking for the mistrial, insisted the question asked by lawyer Jan Michael Morris would prejudice the jury, and Winicoff agreed.

''I told you not to raise that issue and you ignored my order,'' Winicoff told Morris.





The judge fined the lawyer $1,000 US. Morris said the judge could have simply instructed the jury to ignore the question.

''While I respect the judge's decision, I believe it was entirely wrong,'' Morris said. ''Now we're going to have to start from scratch.''

Cunningham said the lawsuit was ''frivolous'' and the case may be over. Romano, however, said the case won't go away.

''I believe in this case and I believe in my clients and I believe in the sanctity of a contract,'' Romano said.

The lawsuit sought unspecified damages that would likely run into several million dollars, based on estimates that the never-staged Battle of the Sexes may have netted up to $45 million in profit. Of that, Richard Williams Tennis & Associates was to receive 80 per cent, with Clarke and Rhodes getting 20 per cent.

Clarke insisted in testimony Monday that she had worked out a deal for the event with Richard Williams, who she said told her he could make the agreement on behalf of his daughters. But Venus and Serena Williams testified they alone had that authority, and they were represented for business purposes by the IMG sports management agency, not their father.

Richard Williams said he never viewed his discussions with Clarke as leading to a formal contract, portraying himself mainly as a protective father and tennis coach.

Cunningham repeatedly questioned Clarke's motives during cross-examination, accusing her of attempting to capitalize on the Williams' sisters fame through a variety of projects, including the sale of sister-endorsed bracelets and an Internet-ready bus that would provide paying customers with an inside look at their lives while on the tennis
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
pound cat said:
Mistrial declared against Williams' tsn.ca Dec 14

Are all the people who badmouth the Williams sisters at every opportunity and declared them guilty satisfied? Or will they complain about the "judicial system"? Makes me wonder what really is their motive.
 

Venus06

New User
You know, considerin most people on here dont like Venus and Serena why is it an awful lot of interest is building around this topic. Or is it just a chance for people to add a sly dig or a put down here and there, coz for those who have done it are just pathetic. I dislike loads of players on the tour but i dont jump at the chance to **** them off because there is just no need for it.

And whilst i'm here let me just add that them being "part time" :rolleyes: which i must admit i find highly amusing considering they took 2 of the 4 GS this year :mrgreen: makes those who said it look plain stupid.

2 GS and only part time!! Imagine if they were "full time" - force to be reckoned with perhaps??? I think so! :p
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Venus06 said:
And whilst i'm here let me just add that them being "part time" :rolleyes: which i must admit i find highly amusing considering they took 2 of the 4 GS this year :mrgreen: makes those who said it look plain stupid.

2 GS and only part time!! Imagine if they were "full time" - force to be reckoned with perhaps??? I think so! :p

They can only be as part-time as the WTA will allow. If injuries are faked, the WTA has procedures to deal with that. Agassi was also part time this year.

The other complaint is their off-tennis activities. That is upto them. If that prevents them from focusing on tennis, they will lose matches and get eliminated. They have no obligation to play any more than what they want, subject to the tour rules. If they want to maximize their earnings while in their prime by choosing side projects, it is their choice.
 

Deuce

Banned
Well, Clijsters spent even less time on court this year than the 'part time' Venus and Serena show - and she won a Major, as well. Venus and Serena are not as unique as some need to pretend they are.

Any truth to the rumor that when this court case gets going again, it will be under a circus tent?
 
Deuce said:
Well, Clijsters spent even less time on court this year than the 'part time' Venus and Serena show - and she won a Major, as well. Venus and Serena are not as unique as some need to pretend they are.

Any truth to the rumor that when this court case gets going again, it will be under a circus tent?

JHH also!
 
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