2019 WTF RR: [4.] Daniil Medvedev vs. [7.] Sascha Zverev

Who will win this match?


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Rogfan

Professional
I feel so sorry for Meddy. He couldn’t lose a match for months and now lost four in a row. Tough to finish a year like this. I wonder what it was. I hope he and his team can regroup and come back strong in AO. Hoping to see a glimpse of him in Sydney or Melbourne
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
@mike danny The problem is you ALWAYS claim Djokovic was terrible/tired when he loses to Nadal. In USO 2013 he was terrible, in Rome 2019 he somehow was tired despite winning a set and was fighting until the last point...
Not always. In those matches he just happened to be.

Don't worry. Nadal himself also sucked in some matches against Djokovic, like Wimb 2011, AO 2019 and even USO 2011.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the difference between the Next Gen finals and the WTF: Meddy boy reached the semis in the former, but couldn't win a match in the latter.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Not always. In those matches he just happened to be.

Don't worry. Nadal himself also sucked in some matches against Djokovic, like Wimb 2011, AO 2019 and even USO 2011.
Nadal played an amazing first set, and that's despite being COMPLETELY mentally broken in this matchup. In the second set Djokovic gave some hell of a fight, and I was sure he was going to win in the third. That was a very big for Nadal. (just like the matches you mentioned were for Djokovic. He played great in AO final, not his problems that Nadal was so bad)

Anyway, that was not my point. What I say is that both were at equal conditions before the final and had to win 2 sets in order to win the title. Nadal didn't get the advantage due to winning his matches easier and not depending on opponents choking. That's the difference between Rome and WTF.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Nadal played an amazing first set, and that's despite being COMPLETELY mentally broken in this matchup. In the second set Djokovic gave some hell of a fight, and I was sure he was going to win in the third. That was a very big for Nadal. (just like the matches you mentioned were for Djokovic. He played great in AO final, not his problems that Nadal was so bad)

Anyway, that was not my point. What I say is that both were at equal conditions before the final and had to win 2 sets in order to win the title. Nadal didn't get the advantage due to winning his matches easier and not depending on opponents choking. That's the difference between Rome and WTF.
The difference between Rome and WTF is one strike and you're out in the former.

In normal conditions, Nadal would have been out on Monday, so I don't see what the complaining is about.

Nadal had to be close to perfect after his first match and he failed to be. That's his problem. When 3 guys have a 2-1 record, someone has to go out and it happened to be Nadal because he performed the worst of the 3.
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
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Mad Lad will return favor today and put some more Russian blood in for the weekend.:sneaky:

I was sure also Zed was dead but Meds is dead, the Russian rushed out after more wins this season than anyone.

Meds FH approach shot is 50/50 as is his BH on short slices delivered by cheatdal.

Hopefully he realizes laughing at his mistakes is not working for him, he needs to buckle down and use
his fire to go an extra step like Murray did publicly and officially to expose the cheat.

His pretend buddy Cheatdal to stop putting him off his serve by always raising his hand or racquet pretending his not ready
or that the crowd is too noisey. When he does that then he can beat him fairly without the mental distraction Cheatdal dishes.

ATM the greatest Russian prospect since Safin isgoing to be eating more losses unless he tell his pretend buddy where to go
and also add on court is where its at the time to show respect and fairness. Outside the courts they can still pretend to be friends.
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
Please enlighten me: why isn't Nadal garanteed a spot in the semis since he beat Tsitsipas today? I mean, if Zverev wins there will be three players with 2-1 record. And in head-to-head, Zverev has beaten Nadal, Nadal has beaten Tsitsipas and Tsitsipas has beaten Zverev... Who gets to be winner and runner-up? Confusing...

EDIT: ok I think I get it, when two are tied it's the hth record, but when three are tied it's the % of set won...

Welcome to tennis Don Diego, the world tour finals has not changed for decades except now no bo5 sets final
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
I was sure also Zed was dead but Meds is dead, the Russian rushed out after more wins this season than anyone.

Meds FH approach shot is 50/50 as is his BH on short slices delivered by cheatdal.

Hopefully he realizes laughing at his mistakes is not working for him, he needs to buckle down and use
his fire to go an extra step like Murray did publicly and officially to expose the cheat.

His pretend buddy Cheatdal to stop putting him off his serve by always raising his hand or racquet pretending his not ready
or that the crowd is too noisey. When he does that then he can beat him fairly without the mental distraction Cheatdal dishes.

ATM the greatest Russian prospect since Safin isgoing to be eating more losses unless he tell his pretend buddy where to go
and also add on court is where its at the time to show respect and fairness. Outside the courts they can still pretend to be friends.
LOL. Mad Lad tanked away Dull's hope for a World Tour Final, not so friendly.:sneaky: With luck they'll play each other in Davis Cup Finals next week.:p Mad Lad moral victor over Cheatdal's 2nd serve stalling as he won point anyway and in style.:cool:

Mad Lad of course has his eyes on the real prize, Davis Cup Finals. Oddly the players in Davis Cup Finals all failed to make the weekend at WTF.:unsure:
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
Was there any other long time world no1 of Nadal`s stature
that never won the WTF finals or does the itchy Balding Bull
all alone in this department? Even Kuerten with extreme
western grips on both sides and clay only upbringing has.
 

Enceladus

Legend
Lendl's been a US citizen for 33 years. Is he Czech or American? :unsure:
Lendl is a Czech with American citizenship. Navratilova is also Czech with American citizenship, she gained back Czech citizenship a few years ago. They had to emigrate because the communist regime in my country restricted their careers.
 
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