UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Thanks for allowing me to vote in the poll after the outcome.
2022 Wimbledon Final: Elena Rybakina vs. Ons Jabeur
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Good rating in Russia too...
slipgrip93
Professional
I kind of expected this kind of reaction of Rybakina's on winning. She's kind of shy or rather mellow and as mentioned probably "in shock" and not a limelight person. But isn't it refreshingly like the earlier eras of women's tennis when it wasn't the often fist pumping and before the screaming/grunting on court? Glad she cut down her UE's this tournament. Finally reaching more of her potential hinted at during her great first part of her season in 2020.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Absolutely wonderful victory and show of tenacity from 2022's Wimbledon women's champion Elena Rybakina! I knew she had the talent to win this major and she came through in fine fashion!
Time for the updated list of majors winners (not named Serena) since 2010:
Schiavone: FO - 2010
Clijsters: USO 2010 & AO 2011
Li Na: FO 2011 & AO 2014
Kvitova: Wimbledon 2011 & 2014
Stosur: USO 2011
Sharapova: FO 2012 & FO 2014
Azarenka: AO 2012 & 2013
Bartoli: Wimbledon 2013
Pennetta: USO 2015
Kerber: AO 2016, USO 2016 & Wimbledon 2018
Muguruza: FO 2016 & Wimbledon 2017
Ostapenko: FO 2017
Stephens: USO 2017
Wozniacki: AO 2018
Osaka: USO 2018, 2020 & AO 2019 and 2021
Barty: FO 2019, Wimbledon 2021 & A0 2022
Halep: FO 2018 & Wimbledon 2019
Andreescu: 2019 USO
Kenin: AO 2020
Krejčíková: FO 2021
Raducanu: USO 2021
Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022
Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022
As I predicted at the close of the 2022 Australian Open, the remaining two majors may go to a different winner each--that has happened; there's too much opportunity and talent for any one player to do what was last seen with Serena, so it should come as no shock if another player wins the 2022 US Open.
Time for the updated list of majors winners (not named Serena) since 2010:
Schiavone: FO - 2010
Clijsters: USO 2010 & AO 2011
Li Na: FO 2011 & AO 2014
Kvitova: Wimbledon 2011 & 2014
Stosur: USO 2011
Sharapova: FO 2012 & FO 2014
Azarenka: AO 2012 & 2013
Bartoli: Wimbledon 2013
Pennetta: USO 2015
Kerber: AO 2016, USO 2016 & Wimbledon 2018
Muguruza: FO 2016 & Wimbledon 2017
Ostapenko: FO 2017
Stephens: USO 2017
Wozniacki: AO 2018
Osaka: USO 2018, 2020 & AO 2019 and 2021
Barty: FO 2019, Wimbledon 2021 & A0 2022
Halep: FO 2018 & Wimbledon 2019
Andreescu: 2019 USO
Kenin: AO 2020
Krejčíková: FO 2021
Raducanu: USO 2021
Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022
Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022
As I predicted at the close of the 2022 Australian Open, the remaining two majors may go to a different winner each--that has happened; there's too much opportunity and talent for any one player to do what was last seen with Serena, so it should come as no shock if another player wins the 2022 US Open.
ttwreader
Hall of Fame
Maybe she will win. But every time I saw her saying "I'm gonna to win a slam", she would lose the next match. First time was in her pre-tournament press conf. at this year RG, second time was before this final match (I didn't see the whole conf/interview, just some short quotes here and there.) She has the ability to win but should not overconfident about it (somehow arrogant to me.)
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Kazatstan president came to cheer her up.... wwow,, i thought putin was getting on his case to join russia
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Did Rybakina smile?
toby55555
Hall of Fame
Kazakh president of their tennis federation that is.
toby55555
Hall of Fame
As her fellow Russian Solzhenitsyn once remarked Westerners smile too much.
Soul_Evisceration
Hall of Fame
Congratulations to Rybakina for the win.
As far as you British Royalty people, here's what we think about you:
As far as you British Royalty people, here's what we think about you:
Mark-Touch
Legend
Mark-Touch
Legend
Congratulations to Elena for the win!
It's too bad she chose not to get political and put in a plug for Russia and the banned Russian players.
She only became a Kazak in 2018, so she's as Russian as you can get, with her family still in Russia.
BTW, I watched the highlights and boy did she ever play an ugly match to get the victory.
So many sprayed balls and botched shots at the net. To me the weakest part of her game is her head.
It's too bad she chose not to get political and put in a plug for Russia and the banned Russian players.
She only became a Kazak in 2018, so she's as Russian as you can get, with her family still in Russia.
BTW, I watched the highlights and boy did she ever play an ugly match to get the victory.
So many sprayed balls and botched shots at the net. To me the weakest part of her game is her head.
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
You need to watch a real match before commenting. Really!
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, you mean the way Ons screamed after breaking her at 1-1 in the 1st set. Like from a horror film.
We can certainly do with less of that kind of feral behaviour from the ladies...
zvelf
Hall of Fame
I should point out that after Swiatek went out, Jabeur and Halep became the heavy favorites in the betting odds. Rybakina beat them both as well as Andreescu, Zheng (who impressed many against Swiatek in the 4th round of Roland Garros), Martic (not always an easy player to beat), and Tomljanovic (who reached her second Wimbledon quarterfinal in a row). So Rybakina's championship is a well-deserved one.
Mark-Touch
Legend
I watched an extended highlight that got most of the match.
I saw way too many face-palm shots from Ryba.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
She won this despite a very tough draw - which was very tough despite many players missing and her being seeded - and despite being Russian.
Fairy tale slam.
As for Zheng (or Zhang), she is the next big thing, will reach slam finals...
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ttwreader
Hall of Fame
That's true for the 1st set Mark when she's very nervous and she made 13 UEs. 2nd and 3rd set were totally different when she made only 7 UEs for both sets, was playing with more topspin with more net clearance, changing her serve placement to Ons' BH instead of FH as in the 1st set, ready for any drop shot from Ons etc. and became much better at the net as the match went on.I watched an extended highlight that got most of the match.
I saw way too many face-palm shots from Ryba.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
She's not made of stone, and it just took a while to sink in.
She came from an injury with very modest expectations, yet she's the winner. It seems unreal, that's completely understandable.
ttwreader
Hall of Fame
So we have another ER wins a fairytale slam besides last year USO's ER
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Checking the match stats, these caught my attention:
Rybakina won 60% of the games (15 of 25), but only 52% points (86 of 166 = 86 points to Rybakina, 80 to Jabeur).
Rybakina converted 67% of her break points (4 of 6), against 18% (2 of 11) from Jabeur.
Clear case of winning the important points.
Rybakina won 60% of the games (15 of 25), but only 52% points (86 of 166 = 86 points to Rybakina, 80 to Jabeur).
Rybakina converted 67% of her break points (4 of 6), against 18% (2 of 11) from Jabeur.
Clear case of winning the important points.
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UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
The huge discrepancy being a laughably easy draw vs a very tough draw.So we have another ER wins a fairytale slam besides last year USO's ER
Ironically, the unbanned slam had the easy-draw winner. Go figure...
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Dodging bullets on the citizenship issue.
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
I was going to reply, but I saw @ttwreader doing a great job summarizing for you.I watched an extended highlight that got most of the match.
I saw way too many face-palm shots from Ryba.
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
Of course the NYT just had to be a dog about the citizenship questions.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Fair enough.
Tennfan123
Legend
For me, Ons lost the match early in set 2. Rybakina chased down a drop shot and hit a lovely winner. Ons was screaming about it like she did something wrong and not that Rybakina was producing great tennis. Ons seemed a touch entitled. Rybakina just got on with doing her thing.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Triggered? I was talking about irony.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I don't think it was a matter of fitness. Rybakina started putting some good power tennis together, even if she made errors, and Ons didn't respond well. While Ons variety is good, she was making bad choices sometimes after a fairly breezy first set. And her attitude changed. I think Ons became nervy - she went from seeing it all as a great opportunity to it being this massively scary thing if she lost. Even early in the second, she was so exasperated by missed shots or good shots by Rybakina. She had to know that a player like Rybakina is going to have good stretches, she knows that tennis matches go through phases and she'll herself make errors. Yet she didn't seem to find her mental foundation in the last two sets, again reacting so severely to evertthing and then mildly freezing up and seemingly accepting her fate. I'm sure it's not that simple, but watching from the outside.
snowwhite
Professional
I feel sad for Ons
It would've meant a lot for her winning a major, much much more than Rybakina (if it meant for her anything?)
Also, for the hypocrite stupid decision of banning Russian players and all the sequences of canceling points, Ons might have become the world number one despite the defeat, which would have also meant a lot for her.
I hope that loss will give her a bigger motivation to win it here, Ons won the Roland Garros Junior in 2011, one year after being a runner up on the same event in 2010.
As for Rybakina, I hope it will not be another story of winning a major and then losing in early rounds forever.
As for her being a Russian, it is always lovely to see ironies happen.
It would've meant a lot for her winning a major, much much more than Rybakina (if it meant for her anything?)
Also, for the hypocrite stupid decision of banning Russian players and all the sequences of canceling points, Ons might have become the world number one despite the defeat, which would have also meant a lot for her.
I hope that loss will give her a bigger motivation to win it here, Ons won the Roland Garros Junior in 2011, one year after being a runner up on the same event in 2010.
As for Rybakina, I hope it will not be another story of winning a major and then losing in early rounds forever.
As for her being a Russian, it is always lovely to see ironies happen.
-NN-
G.O.A.T.
Jabeur wasn't even close to winning the match and won a set through absurdly low shot tolerance and mass gifts from Rybakina. She never really brought da level to this match. Not in any set.
The moment Rybakina upped her game to a high level in terms of pure baseline play, Ons needed to respond and she didn't... couldn't.
The moment Rybakina upped her game to a high level in terms of pure baseline play, Ons needed to respond and she didn't... couldn't.
Beacon Hill
Hall of Fame
Did you see her volley?
Beacon Hill
Hall of Fame
If she would have broken in the third to get back to 3-3, she perhaps had a 50% chance of winning the match. She was on a roll. She didn't play well today. She had numerous chances. Her opponent was so bad in the first set, I think she just thought she needed to bring her to the net and bunt the ball to her and she would win the point. It's too bad. I'm sure she sees this as really big lost opportunity. She might not get another chance.
Beacon Hill
Hall of Fame
After the first set Ons didn't give Rybakina an opportunity to hit unforced errors because she hit them first, or just made terrible shot selections.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
The UK/Wimbledon never banned "Russian players", despite how many times that was written. It banned players representing Russia. Was the ban still stupid? IMO, yes, absolutely. But, I don't think Rybakina winning is the delicious irony or "gotcha" moment that a lot of people do.
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Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Fell asleep cause the time difference.
Sad that Jabeur didn’t win but Rybakina so deserving of the title.
Sad that Jabeur didn’t win but Rybakina so deserving of the title.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
I don’t believe they gave the Russian and Belarussian players the option to play for a neutral country so it was just an all round ****show.
snowwhite
Professional
They DID ban them, however, even forcing them to play neutrally is an act of hypocrisy
Britain (and the USA) invaded Iraq in 2003, did they ban players back then? No
I am glad that the mother of all strating wars won't ban Russian players for the next US Open
enishi1357
Semi-Pro
Wimbledon didn't ban Russian players from Russia. It banned players from the Russia Tennis Federation. It didn't want Player from Russia Tennis Federation winning money that would be funnel back into the Russia Tennis Federation which in turn funnel into the Russia government which in turn spent on the war in ukraine. I might be wrong but unless things change Russia gets a huge majority cut from Players from the federation winning. It makes sense now why medvedev doesn't really care about winning the US open because he knows most winning money won't go in his pocket.
I find it funny how no one here mentions this when this thought pops in my head.
I find it funny how no one here mentions this when this thought pops in my head.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
She is 27 hence may never win one.
Especially since she lost several sets on the way to the final, despite a very easy draw.
She isn't clutch enough, I doubt she'll reach another slam final, let alone win it.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Hilarious motives...
Germany paid 200 million Euros every week to Russia for gas, that is the kind of money that funds wars, not the pocket change coming from pro sports.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
It absolutely is. Total poetic justice, supreme irony, a cosmic joke.
The biggest fear was that a royal would be handing a trophy to someone who lives in Russia, which could be used for propaganda purposes, and that is exactly what happened, and the Russian media is milking this exactly as people knew they would.
No Russian woman has won a slam in 8 years, but now, exactly at this ban slam, it happens.
Of course the irony is huge and it's a big story.
It is a lesson, do not mix sports and politics.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Got hold of the entire BBC coverage of the women's final, and I was absolutely disgusted how extremely politicized everything was. There were 65 minutes of stuff before the match started, and most of it was laughable politically-correct nonsense that has nothing to do with the final itself.
The BBC once again proves itself completely incompetent, using ANY excuse these days to promote extremist liberal values, even when it is in such poor taste considering that this was a tennis final, not a conference on global warming or human rights. Kids today probably don't even know that once upon a time, not even 15 years ago, you could enjoy a sports live event on TV without being subjected to cheesy brainwashing and cheap, dishonest sloganeering...
The irony though, them allegedly promoting "equality" and "human rights" in such a fake, virtue-signaling way (Billie Jean King and Evert excelled in it though, shaming even Navratilova), and yet banning Russians and Belorussians from participating which is inequality in its crudest form. Hypocrisy and stupidity nearly always go hand-in-hand so at least that made sense and was to be expected... Which is why Rybakina's poetic-justice victory was such an awesome thing.
I was also amused by the constant hoopla over Ons "doing it for Africa". I am pretty sure that almost nobody in Zambia or Kenya, for example, gives a toss about whether she wins the final or not. Anyone with a smidgen of common sense knows that Tunisia and the Arab world were supporting her. Lumping everybody in Africa under the same umbrella would be like saying that Britain and Poland are the same and they represent the same values, interests and traditions. Utter nonsense, this western simplification of what Africa is about, this dumb tendency to treat Africa as a country instead of a continent that is as complex in its politics, ethnicity and history as Europe or Asia...
The BBC once again proves itself completely incompetent, using ANY excuse these days to promote extremist liberal values, even when it is in such poor taste considering that this was a tennis final, not a conference on global warming or human rights. Kids today probably don't even know that once upon a time, not even 15 years ago, you could enjoy a sports live event on TV without being subjected to cheesy brainwashing and cheap, dishonest sloganeering...
The irony though, them allegedly promoting "equality" and "human rights" in such a fake, virtue-signaling way (Billie Jean King and Evert excelled in it though, shaming even Navratilova), and yet banning Russians and Belorussians from participating which is inequality in its crudest form. Hypocrisy and stupidity nearly always go hand-in-hand so at least that made sense and was to be expected... Which is why Rybakina's poetic-justice victory was such an awesome thing.
I was also amused by the constant hoopla over Ons "doing it for Africa". I am pretty sure that almost nobody in Zambia or Kenya, for example, gives a toss about whether she wins the final or not. Anyone with a smidgen of common sense knows that Tunisia and the Arab world were supporting her. Lumping everybody in Africa under the same umbrella would be like saying that Britain and Poland are the same and they represent the same values, interests and traditions. Utter nonsense, this western simplification of what Africa is about, this dumb tendency to treat Africa as a country instead of a continent that is as complex in its politics, ethnicity and history as Europe or Asia...
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ScottleeSV
Hall of Fame
I think you're overthinking all this. The stuff they put on before finals is always mostly just fluff to fill the airtime. Not even worth watching unless you're seriously bored. I don't usually tune in until I see the serving ball pop up on flashscores to show they've done the coin toss.
Rybakina winning as a sort-of Russian was slightly amusing (and perhaps inevitable), but honestly nobody cares outside of the occasional internet post and random tweet. I can guarantee you Wimbledon themselves couldn't care less who won (once Raducanu was out).
Rybakina winning as a sort-of Russian was slightly amusing (and perhaps inevitable), but honestly nobody cares outside of the occasional internet post and random tweet. I can guarantee you Wimbledon themselves couldn't care less who won (once Raducanu was out).
