Andre Agassi: quickest reflexes ever seen in a human being?

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

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most likely.



Who else could even come close to owning Sampras' 1st serve on as many occasions?...


Certainly not Federer, although he has the best game in tennis in this day and age.


I would put my vote down for Andre as the human with the quickest reflexes in recorded history, probably in the history of the universe.

wouldn't you?

 

[Andres]

No. Not even close.
Pete owned Andre with his serve 10 times more than Andre owned Pete with his return.

You're just delusional.

Make Andre play table tennis against any ITTF player, and he will BARELY see the ball for 5 strokes in a row.

 

[FiveO]

I'd also, regretably, put JMc's hands up there with anyone.

 

[Chadwixx]

He could see the ball before normal people could. I remember a study they did and they found 6 professional athelets that could see the ball like andre. I forget what it was exactly cause it was a few years ago, but he has some of the best eyes in the world. Im sure someone here has seen it. Reflexes and reaction time could be bunched together though.

Agassi got owned by the pete serve cause he stood inside the baseline vs a 130mph serve. While it looked cool for the fans it was very ineffective as the 18:1 stat proves.

 

[zcarzach]

Don't forget Bruce Lee, widely acknowledged as the fastest human ever. Best vision, probably Chuck Yeager

 

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

EVERYBODY got owned the Sampras serve at one time or another, it's not fair to say "sampras owned agassi with his first serve more times then Andre owned sampras on the return of 1st serve" because the server always has an unquestionable advantage, that's why you're supposed to "hold serve" dummy!


Nobody could do the things that Andre did with the Sampras 1st SERVE, no further discussion is allowed on this point.


But, I will ask you this, if not Andre, who? you tell me, who has the quickest reflexes and best vision ever seen in a homosapien?


*prepared to have a good laugh*

 

[callitout]

I'd also, regretably, put JMc's hands up there with anyone.

Jmac's hands are insane even now. He still makes these weird half volleys with poor footwork, head and chest leaning back, yet overcomes it all with great hands. Feds hands are also unreal, but he positions himself so well, that hes balanced needing to do much less with his hands than Jmac.

 

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

Don't forget Bruce Lee, widely acknowledged as the fastest human ever. Best vision, probably Chuck Yeager

good point, Bruce Lee is up there with Andre, but could he do the amazing things Andre did with Pete's 1st serve? I think not. I respect Bruce's reflexes tremendously though, he wouldn't, but Andre is just a half a notch above Lee I believe.

 

[Chadwixx]

EVERYBODY got owned the Sampras serve at one time or another, it's not fair to say "sampras owned agassi with his first serve more times then Andre owned sampras on the return of 1st serve" because the server always has an unquestionable advantage, that's why you're supposed to "hold serve" dummy!

Ya but there reaches a point. Sampras had 7 aces and 11 unreturnables for every winner agassi hit off the return. With those numbers you gotta wonder why he continued this broken strat.

 

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

Andre developed into the greatest serve returner later in his career (about mid-way), earlier in his career he was not as effective in returning Sampras serve, so as usual the stats don't tell the real story. Everyone knows Agassi had some difficulty earlier in his career as he was struggling to find himself, and boy did he ever...

 

[fastdunn]

Sampras went for two 1st serves against Agassi.
He literally went for 2nd serve aces.
Sampras did not want his serves touches Andre's racquets.

 

[35ft6]

good point, Bruce Lee is up there with Andre, but could he do the amazing things Andre did with Pete's 1st serve? I think not. I respect Bruce's reflexes tremendously though, he wouldn't, but Andre is just a half a notch above Lee I believe.

Apples and oranges. Bruce Lee developed his reflexes through Wing Chun, it's really tough to compare martial arts to tennis to ping pong. Could Agassi get five shots back in play against a pro table tennis player? Who cares? Could a pro table tennis player return two of Agassi's groundstrokes? No. But all that proves is that they're masters of two different sports.

 

[onehandbh]

good point, Bruce Lee is up there with Andre, but could he do the amazing things Andre did with Pete's 1st serve? I think not. I respect Bruce's reflexes tremendously though, he wouldn't, but Andre is just a half a notch above Lee I believe.

Andre is just a half a notch above Lee?
Andre w/a tennis racquet vs. Bruce Lee (no weapons since he is a weapon)?
I'll take Bruce anyday.
Bruce Lee could use his fist to smash back a Sampras Serve with his
ultra quick one inch punch. He was *that* quick and powerful. To return
wide slice serves he could do a flying kick. The dwell time on his bare
foot would give him added control.

 

[Sebastien]

No. Not even close.
Pete owned Andre with his serve 10 times more than Andre owned Pete with his return.

You're just delusional.

Make Andre play table tennis against any ITTF player, and he will BARELY see the ball for 5 strokes in a row.

You didn't understand what AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra said!
your answer doesn't match, useless personal attack too.

 

[Shabazza]

Since your other thread run out of steam and every try of you to "bumb" it up didn't work, it was time for a new thread right?!
Seeking attention and not able or unwilling to accept arguments other than your own - well, at least Nadalgirl is kind of funny.
Really, such a great player like AA doesn't deserve a troll like you.
I'm waiting for a thread from you, claiming that Agassi would've brought peace to the world if he had gone into politics instead of playing tennis...
wait, he can still do it, right?!

 

[JohnS]

Andre is just a half a notch above Lee?
Andre w/a tennis racquet vs. Bruce Lee (no weapons since he is a weapon)?
I'll take Bruce anyday.
Bruce Lee could use his fist to smash back a Sampras Serve with his
ultra quick one inch punch. He was *that* quick and powerful. To return
wide slice serves he could do a flying kick. The dwell time on his bare
foot would give him added control.

THIS IS HILARIOUS!!! I like the way you think!

btw, this thread seems very immature. I just like the quote that I saw from above.

 

[Shabazza]

Andre is just a half a notch above Lee?
Andre w/a tennis racquet vs. Bruce Lee (no weapons since he is a weapon)?
I'll take Bruce anyday.
Bruce Lee could use his fist to smash back a Sampras Serve with his
ultra quick one inch punch. He was *that* quick and powerful. To return
wide slice serves he could do a flying kick. The dwell time on his bare
foot would give him added control.

You mistake Bruce Lee for Chuck Norris!

 

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

Sampras went for two 1st serves against Agassi.
He literally went for 2nd serve aces.
Sampras did not want his serves touches Andre's racquets.

keen observation, this is true, Sampras has the ultimate respect, even fear for the Agassi return of serve.

 

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

THIS IS HILARIOUS!!! I like the way you think!

btw, this thread seems very immature. I just like the quote that I saw from above.

maybe your mother is immature

 

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

Andre is just a half a notch above Lee?
Andre w/a tennis racquet vs. Bruce Lee (no weapons since he is a weapon)?
I'll take Bruce anyday.
Bruce Lee could use his fist to smash back a Sampras Serve with his
ultra quick one inch punch. He was *that* quick and powerful. To return
wide slice serves he could do a flying kick. The dwell time on his bare
foot would give him added control.

LMAO!

Funny, but not true, Bruce Lee could almost match Agassi's quickness, while at the same time matching his power, but...


Bruce could not match Agassi's quickness with the same amount of finesse and placement as Andre, Lee's flying kick returns would land long or wide in most cases.

 

[tennis-n-sc]

Ali. Nuff said.

 

[onehandbh]

You mistake Bruce Lee for Chuck Norris!

Uh... no. But I believe that many professional athletes secretly used the
Total Gym to obtain their excellent physiques. (e.g. John Daly, David Wells...)

 

[AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :(]

lol @ daly and boomer...hahaah

 

[ty slothrop]

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most likely.



Who else could even come close to owning Sampras' 1st serve on as many occasions?...


Certainly not Federer, although he has the best game in tennis in this day and age.


I would put my vote down for Andre as the human with the quickest reflexes in recorded history, probably in the history of the universe.

wouldn't you?

is that why he got aced so many times? his reflexes were great, but what made his return truly amazing was his ability to guess the serve's location before it was even struck. he would start to lean during the server's motion, and if he guessed right his reflexes would allow him to hit a great return. when he couldn't get into a guessing groove, well, look what johansen did to him at the Australian - drop 49 aces in four sets...

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

I vote for Stephen Chow, he'll kung fu hustle Pete's serves... if need to, he'll shaolin soccer that **** for a winner.

 

[Andres]

is that why he got aced so many times? his reflexes were great, but what made his return truly amazing was his ability to guess the serve's location before it was even struck. he would start to lean during the server's motion, and if he guessed right his reflexes would allow him to hit a great return. when he couldn't get into a guessing groove, well, look what johansen did to him at the Australian - drop 49 aces in four sets...

51, even worse

 

[breakfast_of_champions]

quickest hands? cassius clay/muhummad ali. agassi had exceptional eye hand coordination, not really reflexes. otherwise he would of had a better net game.

 

[superman1]

Apples and oranges. Bruce Lee developed his reflexes through Wing Chun, it's really tough to compare martial arts to tennis to ping pong. Could Agassi get five shots back in play against a pro table tennis player? Who cares? Could a pro table tennis player return two of Agassi's groundstrokes? No. But all that proves is that they're masters of two different sports.

Thanks for being the one person to make sense.

I hate this nadalgirl-type BS. Someone acts like a player is God, and that's an open invite for others to rip that player down. Let's just say that this Agassi'sGoneblablabla guy is crazy and leave it at that. Who has better eyes/reflexes than Agassi in tennis history? I can't think of anyone. There are some people who match him, though in a different way (at the net). And his getting aced doesn't say anything about his reflexes. Usually when he is aced, he is moving in the right direction but his reach isn't long enough. It would be physically impossible for him to not get aced when a guy hits a 130 mph serve on the line while Agassi is standing on the baseline.

 

[kwk1189]

I'm waiting for a thread from you, claiming that Agassi would've brought peace to the world if he had gone into politics instead of playing tennis...
wait, he can still do it, right?!

hey, if schwarzeneggar could do it why not? anyway half of you are trying to say that bruce lee could not return a tennis serve so therefore he has less reflexes....am i the only one that see this as irrelevant information? the man doesn't play tennis therefore he would obviously not be able to return a serve under those conditions. all of these examples specific to each person's sport are irrelevant. you would have to test each person the same way in order to actually figure something out, which you cannot do.

 

[VAmazona]

Cam Ward of the carolina hurricanes.

 

[skuludo]

Agassi doesn't have the power to kick a bag of rice up the roof while Bruce Lee can. Also there hasn't been a single training tool the can keep up with Bruce Lee in martial arts. Bruce Lee's fingers can pierce the coca cola cans made of steel. This was before aluminum was used to make pop cans.

Quickness and reflexes alone will allow you to fight pretty well even if you've never studied martial arts.

Strength and power are different btw.

Isn't there someone who can catch bullets fired out of a gun bringing it to a halt with out getting injured?

 

[kwk1189]

Isn't there someone who can catch bullets fired out of a gun bringing it to a halt with out getting injured?

i really doubt it..i think they did a mythbusters episode about that or something close to it and it was busted.

 

[sarpmas]

Isn't there someone who can catch bullets fired out of a gun bringing it to a halt with out getting injured?

Criss Angel?

 

[skuludo]

If Agassi can't use his fingers to pierce steel like Bruce Lee he does not have the quickest hands.

BTW there is a dude who can steal wallets and untie peoples ties without the victim knowing it. The guy can also do the same manuver and steal a persons belt without them knoticing. He works for the Police.

If Agassi can dodge and parry punches and weapons like Bruce Lee then he has reflexes better than him.

I think there are pictures of Bruce Lee canceling a persons attempt to kick (Close range) as soon as he knew the person attempted to kick him.

If Agassi really had those reflexes I think his father should have let him take boxing cause no one would be able to land a punch on him.

 

[lambielspins]

Agassi's return being the best, if it really is, must be in aspects of effectiveness other then getting his raquet on the returns, since he sure as heck gets aced alot more by huge servers then Federer, Hewitt, or even Nalbandian seem to. Personally I think Agassi's return of serve is overhyped because he gets aced way too much, even in his prime, for somebody who is supposably the best returner ever.

 

[BaseLineBash]

Agassi's return being the best, if it really is, must be in aspects of effectiveness other then getting his raquet on the returns, since he sure as heck gets aced alot more by huge servers then Federer, Hewitt, or even Nalbandian seem to. Personally I think Agassi's return of serve is overhyped because he gets aced way too much, even in his prime, for somebody who is supposably the best returner ever.

Yeah, I think two of the ace records were against Agassi and both of the opponents lost the match. The point is, when the server thinks he is unstoppable and things are going his way, Andre steps in and punishes the ball for an automatic winner or automatic defensive reply and it's VERY intimidating. He obviously can't return everything that is thrown at him, but when he does it is wicked and it's lands an offensive blow to the opponent almost everytime. That's why he is considered the best returner in history. He knows how to play this game to his full advantage with this weapon. I wasn't gonna reply to this thread because the OP is a troll, but I can't sit by and read inaccurate findings.

 

[Polaris]

The title of this thread reminds me of the segment Jon Stewart did on The Daily Show - the one about the use of question marks.

Something like: George Bush: best President ever? Not saying it, just asking .

 

[superman1]

Haha, true.

Agassi is the best returner ever, and I just shake my head when people say he isn't because they saw him last month getting aced. Dudes, he was 36 with a bad back. Watch him in the 90's. He could run down balls and pound on them. I wish there was a clip of Agassi's return of serve against Sampras. He'd get aced, then he'd wail on the next serve. And against average servers, my God, he'd just kill them in a way Federer cannot.

 

[VAmazona]

The hand slap sensei in the Mountain Dew commercial.

 

[sarpmas]

Agassi's return is an offensive return. He goes for the kill with his return whenever possible. It is very intimidating to the server and the WOW factor is extreme to the fans. It is analogous to Sampra's running fh. Among those great returners that return almost everything to start the point in a neutral position, Agassi's return stands out. I have no problem acknowledging he has one of the best, if not the best, bh on the tour.

 

[edmondsm]

Bjorn Borg. He got McEnroe's serve back with a wooden piece of **** I wouldn't pay 3 bucks for.

 

[tennis playa]

AA quickest reflexes ever? no. way.

in the sporting world, i'd look at Formula 1 drivers as having the quickest reflexes out side of sport I'd say maybe fighter pilots. Agassi was a good player maybe even a great player but come on folks lets not deify the fellow. I'm not a huge fan of Sampras but his domination of the sport was more sustained than Agassi's and I'm not just talking about the 14 GS titles either.

 

[FD3S]

I dunno... I mean, Schumi may have some damn fast reflexes in a car, but in a SI article from around the U.S Open it said that Agassi was capable of returning 90 + MPH balls in a batting cage while running toward the machine...

 

[AndrewD]

cricket, baseball, martial arts, fencing, boxing, hockey: all of those sports (to name only a few) would dish up people with equal or better reflexes than Agassi. Of course, I doubt whether the OP really wanted a sensible answer.

 

[MaxT]

He just has a boxer's reflex, his Dad boxed for Iran I believe. But is he quicker than a good boxer? I am not sure.

Is he quicker than Ali? Very likely not.

Don't forget badminton players. They are generally much quicker (but less powerful) than tennis players.

 

[f1 tech]

I think any pro Table Tennis player has great reflexes.

 

[katarddx]

...¿



most likely.



Who else could even come close to owning Sampras' 1st serve on as many occasions?...


Certainly not Federer, although he has the best game in tennis in this day and age.


I would put my vote down for Andre as the human with the quickest reflexes in recorded history, probably in the history of the universe.

wouldn't you?

boy, are you waaaay off on this one... kind of sad, actually

 

[superman1]

If Agassi's returning 90 mph baseballs while running towards the machine, that's pretty insane. And who cares about table tennis and badminton? We're not talking about returning a ball as light as a feather, this is tennis.

But Ali and Bruce Lee? You can't compare with those guys, and I don't know why you are. Anyway, at the highest level, the differences in reflex times are pretty minute. You can only move a tennis racquet so fast.

 

[Grimjack]

They actually did a test on this stuff...got to be ten or twenty years ago, now.

It was something like a human physiology lab at one of the major universities, and they got participation from something like a couple hundred different pro athletes, from all kinds of sports. They put them through batteries of "quickness" tests involving things like response time (pushing a button in response to a flashing light), direction reversal (no idea how), and different sorts of tests to see how fast they could move their hands, feet, and body in response to different stimuli.

Read about in in Sports Illustrated, back in the day.

The upshot is this: some hockey goalie was light-years ahead of everyone else in the field.

Thus endeth a boring tale full of hearsay and foggy rememberance. But there is something like an answer to the question at hand in there, as well.

 

[Phil]

Bruce Lee's fingers can pierce the coca cola cans made of steel. This was before aluminum was used to make pop cans.

I can do that. Pepsi cans, too...

Isn't there someone who can catch bullets fired out of a gun bringing it to a halt with out getting injured?

Still learning to catch them, but I can deflect them really well-just swat 'em out of the way, like Wonder Woman/Lynda Carter used to do, only without the tin bracelets she wore. The cheater.