Assuming Djokovic gets knocked out early, Nadal's draw is the easiest in history!!

tennis_hack

Banned
Everyone is complaining about Federer's easy draw, yet they have overlooked how easy Nadal's draw is because of the presence of a single person (Djokovic). With the form Djokovic is in and his recent history of losing early, I doubt that he will make it as far as the SF to actually meet Nadal.

In that case Nadal can beat up on grass-court specialist Brands, weaponless grinder Michael Russell, lazy and clowning Fognini (whom he just beat-down in Rome), passionless clay-mug towel-thrower Nishikori (who at the moment is losing to GOATs such as Berlocq, Ramos and Andujar), a quarter final with Gasquet/Wawrinka, and a semi final with 35 year old Tommy Haas!! And then, of course, the honorary Spanish lap-dog Federer to cap it off.

Seriously, no-one should ever complain (from the perspective of a Nadal fan) about Nadal's draw this time round.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Everyone is complaining about Federer's easy draw, yet they have overlooked how easy Nadal's draw is because of the presence of a single person (Djokovic). With the form Djokovic is in and his recent history of losing early, I doubt that he will make it as far as the SF to actually meet Nadal.

In that case Nadal can beat up on grass-court specialist Brands, weaponless grinder Michael Russell, lazy and clowning Fognini (whom he just beat-down in Rome), passionless clay-mug towel-thrower Nishikori (who at the moment is losing to GOATs such as Berlocq, Ramos and Andujar), a quarter final with Gasquet/Wawrinka, and a semi final with 35 year old Tommy Haas!! And then, of course, the honorary Spanish lap-dog Federer to cap it off.

Seriously, no-one should ever complain (from the perspective of a Nadal fan) about Nadal's draw this time round.

Nadal's FO 2010 draw was easier.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Not even remotely. Rafa's lowest ranked prospective opponent is # 67 (Klizan). Contrast that with Fed who goes deep below #200 as usual.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
I wouldn't be surprise if he fail to reach the semi. since his early round losses this year were disappointing.
 

Strategy

Semi-Pro
This thread is pointless. Why would you assume the second favourite to win the tournament would get knocked out early, and then make statements based on that lol
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Everyone is complaining about Federer's easy draw, yet they have overlooked how easy Nadal's draw is because of the presence of a single person (Djokovic). With the form Djokovic is in and his recent history of losing early, I doubt that he will make it as far as the SF to actually meet Nadal.

In that case Nadal can beat up on grass-court specialist Brands, weaponless grinder Michael Russell, lazy and clowning Fognini (whom he just beat-down in Rome), passionless clay-mug towel-thrower Nishikori (who at the moment is losing to GOATs such as Berlocq, Ramos and Andujar), a quarter final with Gasquet/Wawrinka, and a semi final with 35 year old Tommy Haas!! And then, of course, the honorary Spanish lap-dog Federer to cap it off.

Seriously, no-one should ever complain (from the perspective of a Nadal fan) about Nadal's draw this time round.

Agree. He has an easy path to the SF, a joke really.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
I wouldn't be surprise if he fail to reach the semi. since his early round losses this year were disappointing.
Let's see. Best chances: 1- Goffin: ranked 62, did well at RG last year and... it's a first round. If Djoko is rusty or low on confidence, there could be a surprise just because it's the first match (least likely of upset possibilities though). I don't foresee any trouble in second match for Nole.
3rd round = #1 biggest upset probability, up and coming player (Dimitrov) who's troubled Nadal and beaten Djoko on clay recently. Very dangerous. Is Dimi ready for a big breakthrough? Not a given but possible.
Round 4: Dolgo or Kohl. I know Kohl beat Djoko at RG in the past but he's not playing nearly as well nowadays. Somehow I don't see him as such a big threat. Still, not a cupcake round by any means.
Quarter: Haas. Don't know why but Djoko hates playing him. Even though it sounds ridiculous that a 35 year old would beat the #1 in a slam, I would not rule it out. Verdasco? With his mental? Nah not likely. He could still give Nole a tough long match. Same thing for Andujar.
Conclusion: unless Djoko gets stunned by Goffin due to lack of match practice or form or fitness or whatever, Dimitrov is the one with the highest chance (it is not at all a given that 35 year old Haas can reach the quarter). Dimi has the game, the desire, the youth. The only question mark is his stamina. But if he can do it in 4, then why not?
 
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sbengte

G.O.A.T.
Nadal's 2010 RG draw says hi.


R128 Gianni Mina (FRA) 655
R64 Horacio Zeballos (ARG) 44
R32 Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) 33
R16 Thomaz Bellucci (BRA) 29
Q Nicolas Almagro (ESP) 21
S Jurgen Melzer (AUT) 27
W Robin Soderling (SWE) 7
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Let's see. Best chances: 1- Goffin: ranked 62, did well at RG last year and... it's a first round. If Djoko is rusty or low on confidence, there could be a surprise just because it's the first match (least likely of upset possibilities though). I don't foresee any trouble in second match for Nole.
3rd round = #1 biggest upset probability, up and coming player (Dimitrov) who's troubled Nadal and beaten Djoko on clay recently. Very dangerous. Is Dimi ready for a big breakthrough? Not a given but possible.
Round 4: Dolgo or Kohl. I know Kohl beat Djoko at RG in the past but he's not playing nearly as well nowadays. Somehow I don't see him as such a big threat. Still, not a cupcake round by any means.
Quarter: Haas. Don't know why but Djoko hates playing him. Even though it sounds ridiculous that a 35 year old would beat the #1 in a slam, I would not rule it out. Verdasco? With his mental? Nah not likely. He could still give Nole a tough long match. Same thing for Andujar.
Conclusion: unless Djoko gets stunned by Goffin due to lack of match practice or form or fitness or whatever, Dimitrov is the one with the highest chance (it is not at all a given that 35 year old Haas can reach the quarter). Dimi has the game, the desire, the youth. The only question mark is his stamina. But if he can do it in 4, then why not?

I agree Dimitrov could do it. He has been lacking in two areas in the past--fitness and mental but if he is friendly with Sharapova lately, maybe she has been giving him some pointers on the mental part since aside from playing Serena, Sharapova is great mentally. I doubt Dimitrov will actually beat Djokovic here, but it is a small possibility.
 
This thread is pointless. Why would you assume the second favourite to win the tournament would get knocked out early, and then make statements based on that lol
No kidding. LOL. Some crazy poasters. By the way, tell "second favourite" to Clarky. If she were in charge of engraving the winner's trophy, that job would have been done a looooooong time ago.

ROLAND GARROS
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monfed

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Everyone is complaining about Federer's easy draw, yet they have overlooked how easy Nadal's draw is because of the presence of a single person (Djokovic). With the form Djokovic is in and his recent history of losing early, I doubt that he will make it as far as the SF to actually meet Nadal.

In that case Nadal can beat up on grass-court specialist Brands, weaponless grinder Michael Russell, lazy and clowning Fognini (whom he just beat-down in Rome), passionless clay-mug towel-thrower Nishikori (who at the moment is losing to GOATs such as Berlocq, Ramos and Andujar), a quarter final with Gasquet/Wawrinka, and a semi final with 35 year old Tommy Haas!! And then, of course, the honorary Spanish lap-dog Federer to cap it off.

Seriously, no-one should ever complain (from the perspective of a Nadal fan) about Nadal's draw this time round.

You need to stop counting on Novak getting knocked out so Ralph gets another cheap slam. You got your gift in 2011, time to man up and face Novak,no two ways about it. :twisted:
 
You need to stop counting on Novak getting knocked out so Ralph gets another cheap slam. You got your gift in 2011, time to man up and face Novak,no two ways about it. :twisted:
What is Djokovic's record in RG? It seems to me that it's you Fedephants who wish Nadal would get knocked out by Djokovic, as you have far more to win by not having him in the final. This is just a pathetic attempt at disguising your desperation by projecting it on Nadal fans. :)
 
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monfed

Guest
What is Djokovic's record in RG? It seems to me that it's you Fedephants who wish Nadal would get knocked out by Djokovic, as you have far more to win by not having him in the final. This is just a pathetic attempt at disguising your desperation by projecting it on Nadal fans. :)

Celebration of the bull fans at Novak's exit in RG 2011 is well documented,Wolfy. You can look it up since you seem to have plenty of time on your hands. :lol:
 

sillymonkey

Hall of Fame
lol, Fed always has an easy draw and benefits from walkovers the most.
Anyway, I think Dimitrov will take out the Joker.
 
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monfed

Guest
lol, Fed always has an easy draw and benefits from walkovers the most.
Anyway, I think Dimitrov will take out the Joker.

You seriously think Dimi would beat Novak in a BOF5? I've never seen the Nadal fanbase so on edge. :lol:
 

Clarky21

Banned
No kidding. LOL. Some crazy poasters. By the way, tell "second favourite" to Clarky. If she were in charge of engraving the winner's trophy, that job would have been done a looooooong time ago.

ROLAND GARROS
SIMPLE MESSIEURS
2013 CVAC

Yep. You'll see for yourself in a few weeks.
 

xan

Hall of Fame
yes, 3/4 years ago. please remind me who has been the most consistent player ever since?
Nadal? :D
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
yes, 3/4 years ago. please remind me who has been the most consistent player ever since?
Nadal? :D
Yes in all slams he's played except for the last one (Wimbledon). In any case, Nadal is much more consistent at RG than Djoko. Surely you don't mean to argue that? Djoko's best slams (and most consistent) have been AO and USO.
 
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Deleted member 77403

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Nadal is just that good, and that much better than anyone else on this surface. Djokovic is the only man that can stand in his way, the rest are just there to make the numbers.
 
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Deleted member 77403

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Since USO 2010, there has only been one player that has prevented Djokovic from playing in a Slam final.
 

90's Clay

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Except Djoker probably won't get knocked out early so Fed is the one with the EASIEST draw.

Benneateau, Ferrer and Berdych? Come on..
 
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Deleted member 77403

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Except Djoker probably won't get knocked out early so Fed is the one with the EASIEST draw.

Benneateau, Ferrer and Berdych? Come on..

Berdych has been doing some serious damage to Federer. He was so close to beating him in AO 09, beat him W 10 ending his finals streak there, beat him at USO 12 ending his semi streak there. And he just recently beat him in Dubai.

He has become a problem for Federer, taking his scalp more than once.
 

xan

Hall of Fame
Since USO 2010, there has only been one player that has prevented Djokovic from playing in a Slam final.

speaking of consistency. but hey, he might lose early, knocking out number1 player first few rounds in the slam happens all the time.
 
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Deleted member 77403

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speaking of consistency. but hey, he might lose early, knocking out number1 player first few rounds in the slam happens all the time.

Well since Wimbledon 2004, the early round losses suffered by a world number one are....

RG 09 fourth round.
RG 10 Quarter final - if you say this is early
USO 12 Quarter final - again, if you say this is early.

So, it doesn't really happen all the time. But of course, upsets can happen at any time. See Nadal V Rosol.
 

FreeBird

Legend
What is Djokovic's record in RG? It seems to me that it's you Fedephants who wish Nadal would get knocked out by Djokovic, as you have far more to win by not having him in the final. This is just a pathetic attempt at disguising your desperation by projecting it on Nadal fans. :)

What was the record of Nadal before 2013 at Monte Carlo ? And look what happened this time.
 
What was the record of Nadal before 2013 at Monte Carlo ? And look what happened this time.
Yes, of course it can happen. Everything is possible. I give a slight edge to Nadal still, but Djokovic has a very good chance. And if he makes it, then Federer also stands a very good chance to take another RG title.
 
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