TennisProExpert
Semi-Pro
Embarrassing from the arrogant one. ATP should deduct his points on principle.
Djokovic: “Whether or not Rafael Nadal plays in Paris doesn’t change anything because everything is in my hands,”
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Beckerserve
Legend
Hey? Nadal has been the dominant player last 4 years.
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
How come people remember these two?
connors was a genuinely dislikeable candidate and was disliked by a lot of people, arthur ashe said he could not stand connors and felt like punching him in the face........johnny mac's temper tantrums look real, nothing fake about it.......djokovic's case is different, he is known for faking and attention seeking activities, though sometimes he comes off as a genuinely nice guy when he minds his business without much fuss........djokovic just needs to be himself........that way he will be liked by more people........
rafa is total business, i would not believe one word of what he says........way too diplomatic to even get into trouble.........fed is sensitive and can be ruffled (unlike rafa) easily at times........numerous displays of excessive arrogance have rubbed off many people including me, but he is not faking at least........
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Deleted member 771911
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It's a nice record, a great one in fact for whoever has it.
But the more Djokovic keeps jabbering on like this, the less credit people will give him for it.
Does he never learn? People who don't achieve great things like he does like humble.
It's also clear he's going on about this one because he knows the slam record is getting further out of his reach.
But the more Djokovic keeps jabbering on like this, the less credit people will give him for it.
Does he never learn? People who don't achieve great things like he does like humble.
It's also clear he's going on about this one because he knows the slam record is getting further out of his reach.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
The only reason Djokovic has started to hype up the weeks at number one is because he knows that he is losing the slam race. He never used to talk about the weeks at number one at all but only about the slams and now all of a sudden the weeks at no.1 is the biggest goals of his career give me a break. I expect him next to start hyping up the masters 1000 record the more he realizes that the slam record is out of his reachAt the end of the day he will finish behind Fedal in the most important category the slams and that’s clear based on his attitude.
Seriously man. That's just too much of hate.
There's nothing wrong with that Novak said. He has goals and he is making them clear. His style of communication is different from Fedal, but that doesn't mean it's offensive.
Slams and #1 are important obviously. Since Novak is close to the most weeks at #1, doesn't it make sense to chase that target? And then he will go after slams. That's what he is saying.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
What do you think, OP, about Djokovic's comments?
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
What a moron. This guy continues to shred his legacy lol. He's admitting he's vulturing to get the record. Pathetic!
Lendl has more week at no.1 than Borg, more , more WTFs and many more records over Borg.... yet Borg is seen as easily greater because he has 3 more slams.
Right now, Rafa is Borg and Novak is Lendl. Overrating Novak's secondary achievements like Lendl will not help him if he doesn't win more slams than Rafa. It's mainly something Novak and his fans need to comfort themselves, but it has never worked like that. Slams matter above all.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Saying it's all in his hands with regards to the rankings is a fact, not sure how it could be interpreted as salty.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
You make it sound like these records have been held for the past 100 years! LOL
Federer's only had the record for a few years really. It's not that big a deal if his records fall. Much like it didn't really matter when Sampras' records fell. People don't really care that much.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is dismissing the competition with that statement.Saying it's all in his hands with regards to the rankings is a fact, not sure how it could be interpreted as salty.
FrontHeadlock
Hall of Fame
Lol what a striver dork
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
I don't see why you'd have a problem with that.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
I don't. I'm just saying he's crapping all over the competition.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
USO and RG were never his best Slams. His achievements in both events were expected.I like this talk from Novak.
The end of 2020 has been a fail for him by his standards so it would be nice to end it with some great things.
Then start off 2021 with another AO win
mike danny
Bionic Poster
With that USO field, it was a missed opportunity, no two ways about it.
Literally could have win it if the ball had landed a cm near the lines lady.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, and we know based on all the chatter here leading up that Djokovic was going to smash Nadal in the RG final because you know...closed roof, heavy conditions, heavy balls, cold weather, etc, etc...
There is no certainty that Djokovic would've beaten all of PCB, Shapovalov, Zverev and Thiem at the USO. Just an opinion. Don't kill me for it.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Well, I think it's a case of simply watching how they played:Yeah, and we know based on all the chatter here leading up that Djokovic was going to smash Nadal in the RG final because you know...closed roof, heavy conditions, heavy balls, cold weather, etc, etc...
1. If Shapo couldn't beat PCB, he sure as heck wasn't beating Djokovic. Mentally just not tough enough.
2. Zverev had to come back from 0-2 down against PCB. No way he was beating Djokovic.
3. Thiem needed a colossal Zverev choke to win. No way was he beating Djokovic.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
I'm not just talking about the opposition. I'm also talking about Djokovic and where his head was at and how his form was. He looked irritable and worn down and not sharp. Almost like he needed a break from playing so much in such a short time. He's 33 years old after all. He was getting shaken up by PCB and Tsitsipas at RG. Nadal took him to the woodshed. Djokovic did not look strong at all. And I think age is rearing its head. The energy level and recovery rate isn't what it once was by the looks of it.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Saying it's all in his hands with regards to the rankings is a fact, not sure how it could be interpreted as salty.
That and Nadal said nothing about chasing ranking lol. He wants to play tennis clearly, he's played like 10 matches since February. Djokovic acting like Nadal is freaking out and overplaying over his precious ranking is just a bad look. Everyone else on tour is playing the next few weeks too, but Nadal should sit at home? lol
The only reason Djokovic has started to hype up the weeks at number one is because he knows that he is losing the slam race. He never used to talk about the weeks at number one at all but only about the slams and now all of a sudden the weeks at no.1 is the biggest goals of his career give me a break. I expect him next to start hyping up the masters 1000 record the more he realizes that the slam record is out of his reach
The next slam isn't until January. He can guarantee himself more weeks in his his next tournament. Which one do you think makes more sense to focus on right now?
Settle down.
Nadal's Universe
Rookie
if Nadal is thinking of the rankings, he could have played Cincy and USO but he did not. He was smart for playing tourneys where he thinks he has MORE chances of winning which is clay particularly RG. it is also quite obvious he does not care if Novak can cut down Nadal's slam lead by not playing USO which he is the DEFENDING champ.. He made it clear he just want to play tennis the WAY he wants it to be. He is playing Paris and probably WTF to protect his 2nd seeding at the AO. if he does not play and Thiem gains enough ranking points, he will be relegated to a 3rd seeding which will hamper his chances of winning AO. He has the potential to face Novak at SF instead of the Final.
beard
Legend
Well, no one anticipated lack of any real competition when Fed got all those hundreds of weeks... So...That is OK, no one anticipated unprecedented lack of younger ATGs, so some maybe thought that it is, although I don't think that that was the case. I remember that it was a big deal when Federer returned to the #1 position extending his lead in that category after Wimbledon 2012, clearly many people thought that his advantage was not nearly as big as the statement "will never be taken down" suggests. Same thing in 2018, and I also distinctly remember people being critical of him not being able to hold on to it after his loss to Thiem. All in all a history of people at least anticipating problems for him holding on to it.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
But PCB could have beaten Djokovic which was the reason Djoker lost his rag.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think Novak would want to face Rafa on any surface any time soon.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Only if you ignore facts.
Which facts? Nadal won 6 slams and Novak won 5... unless there were some slams in the imaginary world, facts are against you. Also Federer won 3 slams which is pretty close to them both even considering his age.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Hello, @Beckerserve stated his claim for 4 years and you replied he was ignoring the facts. But the facts are on his side.
And only now you turn it around that why 4 years and so on....
And by the way it is a pity you don’t mention Novak’s vulturing but only Nadal and Fed....
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Fact is Novak has had to win most slams by beating either. In recent years Rafa has often had Novak as the obstacle to win slams, RF too. Novak has lost to either just once (this FO, obviously) since Wimby 2014. He's basically been dominating them at slams in the last 5-6 years. So how is he vulturing?
Hence the vulturing debate always makes Novak look best, never the other two.
Beckerserve
Legend
Random stats. Nadal has dominated the last olympic cycle. Nadal dominated his era. He has won more than Djokovic. It is that simple.
Beckerserve
Legend
6 is more than 5 no?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Did you just make that up or is that an actual thing now?
Doubtlessly a HUGE thing among some Rafa and Murray fans...
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
"Domination" can't be just 6morethan5, no?
Beckerserve
Legend
Its been around since the 1920s i think
Beckerserve
Legend
You either are top dog and the dominator or not
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Olympic tennis and the "Olympic tennis cycle"?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Beckerserve
Legend
Well i just apply the rules set down by other fanbases.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Therein lies the problem. You take these rules seriously.
TTW Commandment no 5: "Thou shallt always question the ever-changing rules set by rabid fans."
Beckerserve
Legend
The best has been Djokovic fans saying FO suited Nadal. 3 weeks ago im sure it was said to suit Djokovic?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
There you go. A great example of very silly rules and conclusions stated by fan camps.
GoldenMasters
Semi-Pro
What is so hard to understand here? Djokovic literally needs to win 2 matches in Vienna or 1 match at WTF to finish as no.1. That is why it literally doesn't matter what Nadal does at Paris since everything is in Djokovic's hands. At least this part is simple to understand, but haters are delusional or trolls.
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