Does the universe go on forever?

Actually, in about a thousand years and I say that because we won't be around then anyway, the universe will turn inside out which is called the big crunch theory. The way this theory works is to pick a time when we of this generation can not be around and make up a bunch of things just to mess with people's minds.


That is the religious point of view. The scientists just go about doing their things everyday, seek the truths, and not bury the head in the sand. Just look around you, need any more evidence? Without those people doing the scientific researches, we are probably still living in stone age. Don't start that creationism and intelligent design crap.

One day, in order for the human race to survive, human would need to move to/colonize other planets. Don't expect a supreme being takes you there, that is the fact.

Religion serves its purpose, like the moral values. Beyond that, it only shoots itself in the foot on many fronts lately. Go to PBS and watch Nova - Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Lendl fan, please ignore that poster. This thread will get totally derailed if we pay heed. There is a lot I could have answered that post, but just ignored it as it would have gone off-topic.
 
Lendl fan, please ignore that poster. This thread will get totally derailed if we pay heed. There is a lot I could have answered that post, but just ignored it as it would have gone off-topic.


Sentinel, I am chilled. I just feel forced to say something. Nothing offensive intended though.
 

lethalfang

Professional
It seems like lethalfang is the only expert here. :oops:

Which part of L.A. is you in? lethalfang, is your tennis as good as your science/math? :)

My tennis is just like my math/science: it may look good at the first glance until you scrutinize further, then you realize it's not as good as you thought.
 

lethalfang

Professional
Why didn't you say THIS in the first place.

** thinking **

lethalfang had said that acco to one view, space-time is created with the Big Bang, and it expands too. Thus, there is a limit beyond which you cannot go. However, I am not getting into the physics of whether you can ever even reach that or not, or by the time you reached there it would have expanded further etc.

If with the BB, space-time begins to exist "everywhere", (and it did NOT exist earlier) then there is this question that comes: what is "everywhere"? What is "here" and "there" which did not exist before the BB, but now exist ?

I had asked some questions earlier (yest) praps lethal has not seen them. If space can get curved then *what* is it ? And now, what really is "here", "there" and "everywhere".

I'm pretty much clueless toward this question.
Once people thought that the shape of the universe might be curved, so you can keep going and going and you get back where you started, but the most recent data suggests that the universe is in fact pretty flat.

Using today's science, we only discuss the "observable universe," i.e., whatever is beyond is so far away, that the time required for the light to travel from there is longer than the age of the universe, so there is simply no way to know.

But it's always interesting to ponder, even though we're walking away from the realm to hard science and into pure speculation.
There is a school of thought that, Big Bang didn't just occur from one single point, but Big Bang really is a infinite number of Big Bangs occurring from infinite number of singularities. If you buy into that, then the "size" of the universe is infinite, and still expanding.
If the universe is finite and you are at the edge of space itself, then you cannot reach beyond where space cease to exist, and I have no idea "how would it feel."
 

lethalfang

Professional
Interesting video, but isn't 11th dimension already discovered.

So far, only time is confirmed as the 4th dimension.

One school of string theory calls for 11 dimensions, and the newest string theory calls for 26 dimensions. They are actually spatial dimensions. But right now it's just theory, and will remain "just a theory" for a while. Interesting, but no experimental verification yet whatsoever.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
If the universe is finite and you are at the edge of space itself, then you cannot reach beyond where space cease to exist, and I have no idea "how would it feel."
That's precisely the lines i was thinking on. What if you are that piece of matter that is at the edge, then I recalled your saying that space-time would expand but not restricted by speed of light, so it would have expanded further.

If space-time extends along with matter expanding, then won't your reaching beyond, create further space and time. Your reaching beyond will be the universe extending, won't it ?
 

Capt. Willie

Hall of Fame
I can't believe you people don't know these things...the Universe ends at the corner of 1st and 1st, right across from Original Ray's:

KRAMER: I miss home, and I don't even know how to get there.

JERRY: What's around you?

KRAMER: I'm lookin' at Ray's Pizza. You know where that is?

JERRY: Is it Famous Ray's?

KRAMER: No. It's Original Ray's.

JERRY: Famous Original Ray's?

KRAMER: It's just Original, Jerry!

JERRY: Well, what street are you on?

KRAMER: Hey, I'm on first and first. How can the same street intersect with itself? I must be at the nexus of the universe.


So let this be a lesson to you. No need for religion, philosophy, science or physics. Nope, all the answers to life's mysteries can be found in one of the 180 episodes of Seinfeld.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Aaah, you bless us with your occasional presence, Rickson. I think we all have enuf intelligence to decide who the "instigator" is !

Keep "dropping" by (pun unintended) :-D
 
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