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Federer’s AO draw till SF is weaker than Basel
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TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
I'll take the bolded from a crack den if I have to.
massimo.tommei
Rookie
Fed is looking good - he just drops off for while and then bounces back - against the top 2 he can’t do that...
So if he can maintain his levels throughout the match - he will be very hard to beat....
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So if he can maintain his levels throughout the match - he will be very hard to beat....
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Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Yugram
Legend
Djole can defeat the forces of evil. 5 hour 5 set epic. With Nadal waiting in the final of course.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
OP also doesn’t cite Tiley is merely competing for the David Brewer 2017 USO GOAT Pillow Soft Draw, no?OP, it is not what you think it is.
Actually it is a proof of how strong the Basel draw was.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
The Nadal does not get tired. Only injured, no?
Fed and Nadal both prepped like madmen for this tournament. Fed practiced and trained his body, whereas Nadal played and sharpened his mental game/strategy.
We will see which approach works best.
beard
Legend
They wanted to favour Federer, but saw that people don't like serve festivals, but want some rallies too, so they slowed fckn surfaces... Even Wimbledon saw what people really want...If ATP/and ITF actually wanted to favour Federer they wouldn't have slowed down the surfaces to favour his main opponents. Fail better.
massimo.tommei
Rookie
Novak didn’t look overly impressive at the ATP tournament - had his issues at times...
From what I have seen - RF is looking very strong... of course time will tell but it should be a good match none the less...
If RF wins the Aus open he would of had the toughest road to victory because you can expect a epic 5 set match in the semis and Nadal won’t be anything like a walkover so he would need to win the slam with 10 sets in 2 days and 7 hours - Nadal May have the fresher legs for the final - which is why RF is looking to have fast easy matches and hope Novak and Nadal have a few longer matches towards the end...
You will probably find RF going balls to wall when he meets Nadal and Novak or he will lose due to fitness...
It’s gonna be all or nothing I suspect...
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Best most exciting tournament of the decade was the 2017 AO they sped up.
beard
Legend
You are not aware that in any case it is no1 and 2 to beat for Federer, no matter what is the draw? One in sf and another in f... Its destiny of 3rd seeded player, and Federer is no3...
There should be some test to be done while registering on forum.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
I don't think anyone's disputing that. You can win more points than your opponent but lose because they played the big points better.
Is the sport, ¿no?
beard
Legend
Yeah, and Fed won because of speed, and not because of Novak losing early...
I didn’t mention Federer. Also on a quick HC like that I fancy Fed’s chances vs 2017 Nole.
Yugram
Legend
Question 1: Are you paranoid about court speed and see slow courts everywhere?
Question 2: Do you consider 2017-2020 (more precisely IW 2018-2020) a weak era?
Standaa
G.O.A.T.
@KINGROGER said Novak should gift Fed a win now because he deserved to win last time and didn’t. that’s what i got from it.
quirotkicks
Rookie
And people here complain about Nadal's draws, ROTFL! Hypocrites.
massimo.tommei
Rookie
Hmmm did I not just say that? Maybe an English comprehension test is required?
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beard
Legend
No you just like ao17 by coincidence, not because Fed won... Right...
beard
Legend
You obviously said that in sarcastic manner... Look at post #19... Try better next time...
massimo.tommei
Rookie
Still lost me... what’s wrong with post #19 and it wasn’t even my post?
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Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes and yes.
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
Normally, I'm against Ol' Rog had/has weak era/draw threads. But there have been so many OmG gUyS rAfA iS dOpInG hUr DuR threads being made.
So, against my better judgement
So, against my better judgement
beard
Legend
Yeah, 40:15, thanks for reminding me... yes, it really was something...
beard
Legend
The guy in post #19 recognized your sarcasm too...
massimo.tommei
Rookie
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Why would any of them had been an impediment for Fed?
He destroyed Berrettini at Wimbledon, he demolished Denis in Miami and is 7-1 against Dimi, his lone loss coming due to back issues at last year's USO.
beard
Legend
Ok, new user, I'll consider you troll till proved otherwise...
massimo.tommei
Rookie
beard
Legend
I agree with you, even without mentioned exits, Fed draw was laughable... Good job, mr Tiley....
massimo.tommei
Rookie
All the top seeds have 50% easy matches it’s why you want to be seeded in the first place - if you want to slug it out with all the seeded players then don’t get seeded for the tournament...
Pretty sure the draw was computer generated based on seedings and also like Wimbledon performance on that surface is probably a factor as well as if Fed was out for a year and not in the top 20 he would have been seeded higher based on previous record on that surface..
I am pretty sure they didn’t just say let’s give Fed 4 easy games till he plays anyone decent...
Don’t think that works that way...
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Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Hey I love that he actually has an easy draw. Not sure why people hate on it. This is a good thing for a Fed fan. Why do people talk like this is a bad thing? Are we going to frown upon this slam 20 years later if he wins it?Normally, I'm against Ol' Rog had/has weak era/draw threads. But there have been so many OmG gUyS rAfA iS dOpInG hUr DuR threads being made.
So, against my better judgement
"Yeah, but Feds 21st slam was weak until he beat Djoker and Rafa, so it does not count."
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
They probably wouldn't but at least they are quality opponents
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
For about 5 years now there really haven't been tough draws anyway. Are some draws tougher than others? Sure, but since roughly mid-2014, draws only matter once players reach the SF (on some occasions the QF).
Plus Ol' Rog is 38
@Red Rick's Razor strikes again
a10best
Hall of Fame
Well, I guess that comes with consistency, right? GOAT's tend to be that way overall. There will be the occasional early anomaly losses to Seppi and Millman just to let you know he is human and likeable.
The Nextgen are just fakes & pretenders which bow out early year after year on the biggest stage.
If Djokjovic loses (early **jinx
**) it's probably his arm or wife giving him problems. He'll find some excuse for sure.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Facile argument because those players are chumps to begin with...
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
I highly doubt Sandgren is going to get passed Querrey, and even if he does, he'll probably lose to Pella/Fognini. Not that it matters anyway, because your arguments are beyond idiotic.
ForehandRF
Legend
Novak losing early is somehow detrimental to Federer ? Fed won because he was better than the others, it's simple.He doesn't have to beat Djokovic to win the AO.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Sandgren, Querrey, Pella, Fognini, what does it matter? They're all weak QF players compared to Berrettini (top 8) and Dimitrov (beat Fed at USO and former #3).
beard
Legend
Yep, you are either troll or don't have a clue how things work...
Partly Fed winning, partly because it had the most great matches, attacking, varied tennis etc
