Djokovic and Alcaraz draw - Wimbledon 2023
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Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
Djoker draw is 1/10 in difficulty whereas Carlos is 9/10
TheNachoMan
Legend
Bublik and Hurkacz will be a challenge.
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
Both very manageable draws for the top seeds.
People lose their heads way too easily about draws. Was anyone really calling Jarry or Zverev a dangerous floater pre tournament? And Rune hasn’t proven a single thing on grass yet, I would bet Tiafoe makes it in the QF. It is an alright but very doable draw for Carlos.
It’s like people expect that top seeds wouldn’t have to play anyone at all.
As for Novak: Hurkacz is good on paper at least but the guy is addicted to playing 5 setters and isn’t in the best form. Still in the 4R that’s the toughest one could get. Rublev/Bublik will be interesting at least and then Sinner/Fritz are decent but again, if Novak is who we think he is he won’t be losing to any of that lot.
I saw Novak and Carlos in the final pre tournament and I am unwavering in that belief.
People lose their heads way too easily about draws. Was anyone really calling Jarry or Zverev a dangerous floater pre tournament? And Rune hasn’t proven a single thing on grass yet, I would bet Tiafoe makes it in the QF. It is an alright but very doable draw for Carlos.
It’s like people expect that top seeds wouldn’t have to play anyone at all.
As for Novak: Hurkacz is good on paper at least but the guy is addicted to playing 5 setters and isn’t in the best form. Still in the 4R that’s the toughest one could get. Rublev/Bublik will be interesting at least and then Sinner/Fritz are decent but again, if Novak is who we think he is he won’t be losing to any of that lot.
I saw Novak and Carlos in the final pre tournament and I am unwavering in that belief.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Ahhh here we go again
just like Tommy Paul and "The Demon" were challenges at AO lol?
TheNachoMan
Legend
I am taking the Nadal approach. Bery, bery tuff, no?Ahhh here we go again
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
It always amazes me how Djokovic almost never gets a servebot in the first 1-3 rounds of Wimbledon. Federer, Nadal, Murray all have played them in the past.
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Deleted member 629564
Guest
Djokovic draw: -1/10 (easiest possible as always)
Alcaraz draw: 12/10
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
That's what tiny Carl gets for being #1 seed.
Alcaraz takeover
Rookie
Horrific draw as expected. Almost makes me sick, really.
They apparently aren't tired of this same 36 year old man winning their tournament for the 5th time in a row
when the most exciting player to appear in the last 10 years has arrived on the scene.
Whatta farce
They apparently aren't tired of this same 36 year old man winning their tournament for the 5th time in a row
when the most exciting player to appear in the last 10 years has arrived on the scene.
Whatta farce
TheNachoMan
Legend
He must be punished for being a fraudulent #1. Vamos.
Bublik will lose in R1...the Halle curse
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
It wouldn't have mattered anyway. The darling of the establishment was always going to get a soft draw whether he was #1 or #10.
TheNachoMan
Legend
Your boy has to prove he’s worth all the hype. I look forward to it.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
This is the weakest era in history, grass is the weakest surface, and Djokovic also keeps getting the weakest draws. He is winning at least 10-12 Wimbledon titles given that.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Djoko got Sinner in his section. Wawrinka, Rublev/Bublik, Musetti. It has potential to be off the chain!
Alcaraz takeover
Rookie
C'mon Rublev and Musetti won't do anything. Neither will old ass Wawrinka. Sinner has been garbage and injury prone this year. He won't make it that far either
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree for the most part, it’s Hurkacz and Bublik who stick out.
That said: what scares you about Jarry, Zverev/De Minaur, and Rune/Tiafoe? I’m confused. That draw doesn’t seem tough to me.
UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
Ruusuvuori, Hurkacz, Bublik, Sinner and Alcaraz all back to back!!!
Utterly disgusting draw
This can't be random, they want Djokovic to lose no matter what.
Utterly disgusting draw
This can't be random, they want Djokovic to lose no matter what.
lol should be the other way round as Alcaraz has a cakewalk draw on paper even avoiding his nemesis Sinner.
Born_to_slice
Legend
That's what you get for gifting Britt's w title after 77 years.
Bublik is Halle cursed...so he is out in R1
Alcaraz takeover
Rookie
Zverev is improving all the time and Tiafoe is one of the best grass-court players. Rinderknech is also potentially a round 2 opponent and he was very good in Queens
UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
OMG even Kyrgios is in Nole's quarter. Horrific draw.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
So wich other draw for Nole would have satisfied you?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Alcaraz takeover
Rookie
I'll happily swap Alcaraz's draw with Djokovic's any time of the day, twice on sundays
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Sure, I agree Djoko is the one more satisfied but we aren't talking about some major difference. The only thing I see a big difference is the 4th rounds. Zverev might be dangerous here for Alcaraz.
Alcaraz first 3 rounds btw are weaker than Djokos.
Novak is the darling of the establishment? Somehow, I doubt that-LOL!
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Slicehand
Guest
you cant be fraudulent because the others dont respect the rules
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Wimbledon 2022 has nothing to do with Djokovic respecting the rules, those points had they remained would be mean he is world number one, even if he missed all those NA events.
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Slicehand
Guest
oh yeah that, well he didnt have to face Rublev, the hardest oponent, so i hope you understand he doesnt deserve the points
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
How come you included Musetti and Etcheverry in Nole's draw but not Ruusuvuori and Kyrgios? Sure they're not seeded but it's grass they're way bigger threats on this surface.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Yawn
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Exactly. They're now even scraping the bottom of the barrel with Ruusuvuori and Kyrgios.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
I saw this path on twitter so I just copy pasted it. Didn't know about Kyrg. Is it 4th round or QFs they can play?
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
Excellent post, but you left out two important facts:
1). It is not only the weakest era in history, but the weakest era possible. (Not only has there never been a weaker era, but there could not be a weaker era). It is, in fact, the weakest era of all possible worlds.
2). Thus, even if Djokovic were to go beyond your modest prediction and win 15 Wimbledon titles in this weakest era of all possible worlds, it would not matter one jot! None of the titles would be meaningful in the slightest. They're playing for neither the trophy nor the prize money (nor even the love of the game and of the competition), they're playing to be an ATG, which is the only thing that makes a tennis career worthwhile. Winning titles in the weakest era of all possible worlds does not advance one's ATG credentials one iota, and therefore any future Wimbledon titles would be as meaningless for Djokovic as have been all of his titles starting at least in 2018 (and arguably even 2014 and 2015 matter little). But certainly the last four titles don't mean a thing!
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Yes, Chains is in the other half
Zverev is On The Chains
joshuayuan
Professional
Obviously the toughest one there was McDonald, lmaooooooooAhhh here we go again
UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
Kyrg could face Nole in the QF but hopefully he doesn't make it. Goffin could take him out R1 while he's still rusty.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Better let Wimbledon know, those guys think their title is worth something.
