Federer "would not stand a chance" against 2016 version of Djokovic - Tipsa

[Noelan]

Halleluiah! For once, Federer was favoured with a 'faster' surface. Shall we now count all the times he was dis-advantaged, or rather, not favoured, due to extreme slowing down of courts on grass and HCs?

He had to rely on favoring(note that I mentioned scheduling too) , I touhgt he was good enough that he doesn't need it. It seems I was wrong.
Sure the whole tennis establishment wanted to see Nadal then Djokovic , then Murray winning before Fed

 

[Maestroesque]

He had to rely on favoring(note that I mentioned scheduling too) , I touhgt he was good enough that he doesn't need it. It seems I was wrong.
Sure the whole tennis establishment wanted to see Nadal then Djokovic , then Murray winning before Fed

Are you still talking nonsense? Nothing new here...

 

[Tennisanity]

Fed playing like this wins W2014 and USO2015, but not W2015.

 

[NBP]

He had to rely on favoring(note that I mentioned scheduling too) , I touhgt he was good enough that he doesn't need it. It seems I was wrong.
Sure the whole tennis establishment wanted to see Nadal then Djokovic , then Murray winning before Fed

Didn't see you complain when Djokovic had his feet up after the SF on a Thursday, and Murray played a 5-setter on the Friday against Raonic last year...

 

[Noelan]

Djokovic , the most favored player by tournaments organizers

 

[Maestroesque]

Djokovic , the most favored player by tournaments organizers

Finally you're coming to your senses

 

[Charlie]

No one was saying back in '11 the only reason Djokovic was beating Nadal and Federer is because they were not playing their "best level".

Let's not make things up, he had detractors back then too. Federer already turned into a grandpa that year, Nadal was nowhere near as good as the one Federer faced in Slam finals... Nowhere near the excuses that were made for Djokovic's success in the previous two years but still it was questioned.

 

[swordtennis]

I just love it when other players professionals and greats give well deserved appreciation to the great Djokovic.
It just flies in the face of Fedal convention.
And that there is why I just adore it.
@tipsa...don'tlikehim! miss you man.

 

[DRII]

so Tipsarevic (sic) is focusing on the Rhonda Rousey (sic) version of Djokovic...

OK.

 

[DRII]

I just love it when other players professionals and greats give well deserved appreciation to the great Djokovic.
It just flies in the face of Fedal convention.
And that there is why I just adore it.
@tipsa...don'tlikehim! miss you man.

find a non Slav or Eastern European to do so.

 

[swordtennis]

find a non Slav or Eastern European to do so.

Oh god Ms. Nasty. There are plenty of others.
Nasty. Nasty. Nasty.
PeeYuuuu.

 

[DRII]

Oh god Ms. Nasty. There are plenty of others.
Nasty. Nasty. Nasty.
PeeYuuuu.

put down your Janet Jackson album, guy...

and also recognize the nationalism that often came with Djokovic worship!

you ignoring it doesn't make it non-existent.

 

[QuentinFederer]

2017 Federer would beat 2016 Djokovic on faster courts. It would be close on slower courts.

 

[Chanwan]

That fall is the reason I don't sweat this match as much as others (being a Fed fan, that is). Novak clearly played sub-par for quite a while after the fall (who wouldn't) and Roger still couldn't come on top. Novak was just the better player on that day.

Roger had 18 or so BPs in the last 3 sets alone in 9 different games. He won 3 of those.
Novak, meanwhile, had 5 BPs in 4 different games. He won 4 of those.

Fed won 1/11 of BPs on Djoko's 2nd serve.

You can't win a slam final with those kind of numbers, but aside from BPs, Fed actually was the better player for the last 3 sets.
Not in the first though, not sure if it was lack of belief or not, but he wasn't ready to take advantage of Djoko being off for a game or two. Djoko was the better player in the first despite the fall.

 

[Limpinhitter]

The way Fed has played this year, his improved shotmaking and consistent successful execution of more agressive tactics, I would favor him against peak Djokovic (any year), on grass and faster courts. On clay and slower courts, I would give Djokovic the edge.

 

[DMan]

I'm surprised that a pro tour player who knows the game (a credential that I doubt now) is utter stupid to spew nonsense like this.

Why are you surprised?
Consider the source......Janko Tipsarevic.

Serbian... and Federer is not.
Dumb as a bag of hammers
Jealous
Petty
Idiotic

 

[DMan]

It's pretty much the same thing. We all know what he meant.

No. We know what Tipsarevic meant by the words he uttered. Not some "theory" to be revealed in next week's episode.

He meant what he said and he said what he meant.

It really is that simple.

 

[Jackuar]

Why are you surprised?
Consider the source......Janko Tipsarevic.

Serbian... and Federer is not.
Dumb as a bag of hammers
Jealous
Petty
Idiotic

Yup, true. Although he mentioned that he isn't putting Djokovic not for friendship but he actually deserves it. Why justify truth? Coz he knows it isn't

 

[DMan]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/re-emergen...-novak-djokovic-andy-murray-struggles-1615358
"Federer is a great champion, but one of the reasons he is in a position he is today is because Murray and Djokovic are not playing at their best level."

"I am not sure that Federer would stand a chance playing Novak from last year – I am not saying this because Nole is my friend, but because that is what I really think. Secondly, I was told that this year was the fastest Australian Open ever, it was the first year in who knows how many that the courts weren't resurfaced. If the court isn't resurfaced, it gets faster every year. Also, the balls in Melbourne usually get bigger as the match progresses and this year they were getting smaller."

"Federer wanted to prove in Melbourne that he is not done, he has beaten Kei [Nishikori] in five, [Stan] Wawrinka in five and Nadal in five. I think that before he used to play with some niggles and that now he is pain-free. Besides, I think Ivan Ljubicic helped him improve his backhand, Roger is hitting the best backhands in his career."

@tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Folks, this should NOT be news.

But why is it?

Today's sorry state of journalism. Some former not-very-accomplished pro states his bloated, jealous opinion. To downgrade Federers achievements because Djoko and Murray weren't all there. (Although pardon me for pointing out the obvious: Djoko got thrashed by a player ranked outside the top #100 while Federer cruised to another title...Murray got blitzed by Mischa....who Federer embarassingly thrashed. Indian Wells? Djoko and Murray were desert rats there, not even making it to the QF! Miami? Whither for art thou Djoko and Andy? Scared and confused, they didn't bother to show up!)

So why did this dim journalist decide Tipso's opinion was a real story? And why didn't they just ask Mirka for her opinion, and then print it as 'gospel real truth.'? Afterall, Mirka's a former pro too. Shouldn't all former pros opinions be treated with equal respect, that we should then accept as a gospel truth, because naturally they would all be completely unbiased about the current state of affairs, n'est ce pas?

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Fed playing like this wins W2014 and USO2015, but not W2015.

I'm not at all sure we can assume that Fed's level is that much higher now than in 2014/15.

He's playing awesome tennis now but he also looked stellar at certain tournaments in those years too. The sample size is too small still

 

[Tennisanity]

I'm not at all sure we can assume that Fed's level is that much higher now than in 2014/15.

He's playing awesome tennis now but he also looked stellar at certain tournaments in those years too. The sample size is too small still

I think Fed's tennis level is better than anyone else's on tour when he is ON. To be ON it's all about confidence for Fed. And right now he's playing with confidence. Hell if he's taking care of Nadal relatively easily, then Djoko is even easier for him. Sure Nadal is not peak anymore, but the cries of his decline are way way premature.

 

[Noelan]

I just love it when other players professionals and greats give well deserved appreciation to the great Djokovic.
It just flies in the face of Fedal convention.
And that there is why I just adore it.
@tipsa...don'tlikehim! miss you man.

I miss Tipsa even he actually liked .. well you know who , he was fair poster and great observer of the game

Folks, this should NOT be news.

But why is it?

Blah , blah, blah....

So why did this dim journalist decide Tipso's opinion was a real story? And why didn't they just ask Mirka for her opinion, and then print it as 'gospel real truth.'? Afterall, Mirka's a former pro too. Shouldn't all former pros opinions be treated with equal respect, that we should then accept as a gospel truth, because naturally they would all be completely unbiased about the current state of affairs, n'est ce pas?

Mirka gave her honest opinion. Treats players on court with dignity and is unbiased ofc .
Not sure what your rant deserves here .
Btw it's Tipsa(revic) not Tipso(revic) . There is no need to translate names

 

[PrinceMoron]

First time I saw Tipsa live I thought he was shorter than he looks on TV. Maybe he doesn't sound such an idiot in person


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[gn]

Not sure if Federer would stand a chance. But nobody would stand a chance against Father time.

 

[TheFifthSet]

put down your Janet Jackson album, guy...

and also recognize the nationalism that often came with Djokovic worship!

you ignoring it doesn't make it non-existent.

You should do something useful, like call out Chris Evert on Twitter for being such an unabashed Federer fan.

What could go wrong?

 

[DRII]

You should do something useful, like call out Chris Evert on Twitter for being such an unabashed Federer fan.

What could go wrong?

if she called ATP matches I'd expect as much from Evert, Blake should know better.

either way, I have a much better chance of getting a reply than you do.

 

[TMF]

An opinion from a neutral player would have some merit, but Nole is his best friend so his opinion is insignificant.

Also, Tipsarevic is 0-6 against Federer so he has chip on his shoulder.

 

[TheFifthSet]

either way, I have a much better chance of getting a reply than you do.

I wouldn't doubt it, your critiques are very incisive. I appreciate all the work that you do around here to maintain order.



(nothing to see here guys, just doing the right thing by trying to get his confidence up )

 

[RF-18]

An opinion from a neutral player would have some merit, but Nole is his best friend so his opinion is insignificant.

Also, Tipsarevic is 0-6 against Federer so he has chip on his shoulder.

Yea tipsarevic is probably just butthurt...

We all saw what happened in 2015

 

[DRII]

I wouldn't doubt it, your critiques are very incisive. I appreciate all the work that you do around here to maintain order.



(nothing to see here guys, just doing the right thing by trying to get his confidence up )

oh look, you and irony...

 

[TheFifthSet]

oh look, you and irony...

Do you like apples?

 

[Maestroesque]

Yea tipsarevic is probably just butthurt...

We all saw what happened in 2015

Oh look ND-12's true colours showing at last

 

[DRII]

Do you like apples?

 

[TheFifthSet]

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FudgeControl]

His comments aren't backed up by the facts at all.

For one thing Murray has only won one set off Federer in the last 4 seasons.

As for Djokovic 2016 - He only played Federer once before Federer got injured in his knee. The previous year 2015 Federer beat Djokovic 3 times.

So I have no idea where Tipsa says that Federer would have no chance against Murray and Federer.

That's why they're called opinions, ya big goof.

 

[mike danny]

That's why they're called opinions, ya big goof.

Well opinions are supposed to be backed up by arguments. His opinion of Fed benefiting from Murray's absence is not.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

He just wanted to talk about cojones, but had no balls to go openly in public about it.

 

[Bartelby]

Players, like matches, can always suffer ups and downs. His opinion is not interesting.

Well opinions are supposed to be backed up by arguments. His opinion of Fed benefiting from Murray's absence is not.

 

[every7]

That fall is the reason I don't sweat this match as much as others (being a Fed fan, that is). Novak clearly played sub-par for quite a while after the fall (who wouldn't) and Roger still couldn't come on top. Novak was just the better player on that day.

Agree. No one has dissected Federer's transition attack patterns better over Bo5 since this match, except for that isolated first set Djokovic played at AO 2016. Controlled use of the lob was devastating imo.

 

[Noelan]

Good observations, Fed should save "sabr" tactic to USO instead of Cincinati, he may catch Djokoivc unprepared. That way looked like fool couple of times at net

 

[Charlemagne]

He's 35 dumbass

 

[KINGROGER]

I've always loved watching their matches....although we were not lucky to witness them both at their peaks at same time, we did see some classics when they did play at or close to peak level in that particular match. RG 2011, USOs 2009-11 just to name a few.

And USO 07-08, Rogers Cup 07, AO 07, Rome 09, Basel 09-10, WTF 10, AO 11, Wimbledon 12, Cincy 12, WTF 12. All great matches.

Basically I class their rivalry as 07-12. Prime Djokovic vs peak then prime Fed, then post prime Fed vs peak Djokovic. After that Federer didn't have a ground game of any note which is why he lost both Wimbledon finals. 2012 Fed wins 1 of them at least.

 

[Djokovic2011]

He's 35 dumbass

So? Are you saying that Tipsarevic's comments would only hold weight if Federer were the same age as Djokovic?

 

[Goosehead]

tanko quitsarevic has got a freaking nerve..

i notice the oompa loompa quitsy tispy didn't mention that when Djokovic was compiling his epic 2015 season (continuing into 2016 obv), that Federer beat him 3 times, 50% of djoko's defeats that season.

tanko quitsy can always be relied upon to be Djokovic's ego fluffer. blaaah blahhh yaketty yak bing bong bing yada yada yap yap urp.

 

[I am the Greatest!]

And 2016 Djokovic has no chance against 2004-2006 Federer. We can go both ways.

 

[Kalin]

What Tipsa is saying is, very possibly, true. The problem is, it is also utterly pointless and brings nothing to the table in terms of analysis or, well... news. Similar statements can be made about every single sportsman who has won something unless he/she happens to be the GOAT of the sport at his/her absolute peak. Roger is the GOAT but he isn't at his absolute peak so... duh.

But good on Tipsa for trying to cheer Novak up. Someone had to do it if Pepe is not delivering the Amor y Paz in enough quantities...

 

[swordtennis]

I miss Tipsa even he actually liked .. well you know who , he was fair poster and great observer of the game

Mirka gave her honest opinion. Treats players on court with dignity and is unbiased ofc .
Not sure what your rant deserves here .
Btw it's Tipsa(revic) not Tipso(revic) . There is no need to translate names

He was fair always was aware of all players strengths and weaknesses. Even his favorite Nadal.
Besides Nadal he is also a Murray fan and as I am too.
He is still around however he was disgusted with the vileness here and does not post much.
I remember one time he posted the posts here are hard to read due to their delusional vileness and savage insanity and obssesion.
The circular arguments and agendas in disguise.
lmao. Poor Mirka she has been through a ton of emotional roller coasters.
She loves her Fed. I think she is actually the mastermind behind team Fed. Her brains his brawn.
Let's be frank Fed is not a thinker he is a lil simple minded and that has been a huge asset to him in his tennis.
He just wants to have fun.

 

[swordtennis]

And 2016 Djokovic has no chance against 2004-2006 Federer. We can go both ways.

If one thinks any version of Djokovic and Federer "stands no chance" against each other than one might just be the biggest fan boy on the planet.
Just sayin.

The Fed Djokovic matchup is a tough matchup for both.

 

[-NN-]

Ahahaha you know how is. It's either right or wrong -- it's always definitive. The arrogance of mankind is ASTOUNDING.

 

[big ted]

in all fairness tipsa did say "I AM NOT SURE that Federer would stand a chance playing Novak from last year..."