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If he’s not afraid of heights and good with acclimatisation I think he can get to the top of Everest.
Purplemonster
Hall of Fame
All sprinters have been besides Bolt
I have said that to a few people and they tell me it’s because he doesn’t need to !!!
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Well not anymore.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Hello
I sent you the money but haven't mailed me back
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
do you deliver to the cayman islands?
i'll take 3 pairs.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
3 Paires coming right up
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Jhreamer
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Man, it looks like Alex has to bludgeon his body every match to maintain his style. But I wouldn't put anything past his spirit. I hope for a solid top 10, and would be pleasantly surprised with some 1000s and a Slam.
To me, next year will be crucial. For him, and for players like Shapovalov, Tsitsipas, Tiafoe, and Zverev. Their careers are hitting fourth gear now, and several other big careers are reaching their end.
I feel uncertain about which of these names, if any, will dominate the sport once the Bigguns' are gone. If you're on the side of optimism regarding the ATP's future, then this is one of the coolest parts of the next few years.
To me, next year will be crucial. For him, and for players like Shapovalov, Tsitsipas, Tiafoe, and Zverev. Their careers are hitting fourth gear now, and several other big careers are reaching their end.
I feel uncertain about which of these names, if any, will dominate the sport once the Bigguns' are gone. If you're on the side of optimism regarding the ATP's future, then this is one of the coolest parts of the next few years.
tennishabit
Legend
lololol man.........it's said tennis' the combination of boxing n chess, but.........was that some girl's scratching:?))) surely not bunching, man...........get racket to prepare yar ao2019 man n hope yadoing well
)))..............................cheersmas)).........
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Sport
G.O.A.T.
LOL.
FedGR
Professional
I will remember this LOL and I will respond with another LOL when he becomes number 1.
Jokes aside, the guy is very good and has an amazing attitude. He will go far.
albertobra
Hall of Fame
I see him more as a stable top 20. True he runs like a beast, but his game is kinda one dimensional. It means that better players will easely outplay him tactically with intelligent variations.
tennishabit
Legend
lololol man, put some sort of bet on him then a bit sensible to get involved 'personally' a bit otherwise absolutely nothing to do with any1 here or there.........tennis's a personal sport n he's only representing himself in almost every tour n nothing to do w/ any1 else except himself n his team............until very few tour representing player's countries.....so, atp no.1 until being no.1 n crash until crash...........not our business at all man.........lololol man. so simply wish him a good year n not crash too soon as he's still aus no.1 n nowadays so hard for any aus to get into top10. so, as a completely outsider no need to tank the only a few still standing in the world stage.
tt might consider a symbolic betting like couple of bucks then the interesters might have a sense of couple of bucks worth relevancy.........happy new yr, every1))))))..................................
tt might consider a symbolic betting like couple of bucks then the interesters might have a sense of couple of bucks worth relevancy.........happy new yr, every1
))))))..................................
Sport
G.O.A.T.
tennishabit
Legend
hahaha, lololol.........lol .n(n+1)(n+2)..............gr8 business oppo for tt, man.............starts with $1.10 per unit ie $1 w/ 10% tt admin fee.
when ya arguing w/ some1 or predict some results then put that buck into yar mouth.......lololol, make it worth something w/ tiny bit relevancy w/ otherwise totally/absolutely an outsider))))..................tt admin the payout n everything w/ everybuck so transparent n open for any1 2 c................
not sure abt if $$$ later on n might have 2 get lic. re. regu/legal process. but when the$ small enough w/ a upper limit of, let's say 10 units ie $11 c2c style, none cares except the private parties involved..................
tt admin's opinion:?)))))).....................might b big in the future, who knows. only big when it bcms big, lolololol man...............
when ya arguing w/ some1 or predict some results then put that buck into yar mouth.......lololol, make it worth something w/ tiny bit relevancy w/ otherwise totally/absolutely an outsider
))))..................tt admin the payout n everything w/ everybuck so transparent n open for any1 2 c................not sure abt if $$$ later on n might have 2 get lic. re. regu/legal process. but when the$ small enough w/ a upper limit of, let's say 10 units ie $11 c2c style, none cares except the private parties involved..................
tt admin's opinion:?)))))).....................might b big in the future, who knows. only big when it bcms big, lolololol man...............
Druss
Hall of Fame
One-dimensional? Have you seen him play? The guy has good touch and way more variety than the likes of Zverev or Thiem.
FedGR
Professional
Yeah, I don't think people have seen him play much. He has great variety in his shots and attacks the net regularly.
Atennisone
Hall of Fame
He plays such incredible tennis
Druss
Hall of Fame
I hope you will be proven wrong Sport! I think De Minaur has potential. He's still 19....There are many who went on to win multiple slams, who, when they were 19, nobody including myself, thought much about them at the time.
Druss
Hall of Fame
I just don't get it....how can people say he's one-dimensional? They obviously don't know much about tennis.
Shank Volley
Hall of Fame
I'm not so sure. Most of the unassuming players who reach unexpected heights after middling early careers are ones who overcome fitness/physical or mental deficiencies. Think Wawrinka or Federer or Djokovic. All had tennis games that stood out as lending towards success, power and spin and accuracy, and they worked on either their physicality or mental strength to reach another level. Even someone like Cilic always had a huge game, he put the rest together for a tournament and now he's a grand slam champion.
It is undeniably easier to get fitter or hire a psychologist than it is to have better tennis abilities. De Minaur's strengths at this young age are the things that hard work can actually help with, what else is he going to do? Get fitter? Run faster? At the highest levels where everyone is fast and determined, the difference is the inherent tennis ability of the athlete, and that's where Alex is lacking as far as I can tell.
borna coric
Semi-Pro
That's why you know nothing about sports in general or tennis specifically. Even the so called "experts" don't know much either.
Tom Brady was the 199th player, selected in the 6th round, with six quarterbacks were selected before him, and he is now G.O.A.T with 5 superbowl rings. Drew Brees was selected in the 3rd round and he won the superbowl and will be considered probably the top 5 greatest QB in the history of the NFL.
This kid De Minaur has the intangible to win GS. You can't measure intangible.
Shank Volley
Hall of Fame
Says I know nothing about sports and then compares an individual sport to a team sport. Yeah, whatever you say man.
Your profile name is Borna Coric so it's pretty obvious that you like unremarkable players. Trying extra hard is not an intangible, and neither of those two players have any kind of greatness in their futures above what you'd expect of a journeyman.
Druss
Hall of Fame
Shank Volley
Hall of Fame
Obviously any time you speak about professional athletes the word unremarkable is a relative term. There are only 100 tennis players who can consistently challenge Ryan Harrison in a tennis match, but he is unremarkable as a professional tennis player. None of us here will ever win a game against him. Ever. But he is nothing special on the pro tour.
Similarly, De Minaur is an unremarkable tennis player who runs faster than average for the tour.
Druss
Hall of Fame
Was Pat Rafter unremarkable as a tennis player when he was 19?
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Yes. I believe he was 25 or so before he even broke through.
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Meles
Bionic Poster
oldmanfan
Legend
I like the Demon's attitude and work ethics toward tennis. I thought his speed was insane vs. Cilic at the USO18 (can he do that day-to-day without fatigue/injury?). With that said, and from what I've seen of Demon's game, I think his peak is top10 (and probably briefly, if that) unless he develops a 'weapon' other than speed.
To me, Demon is like a Hewitt 'Lite'. Hewitt had Demon's game, but better, but once an ATG bloomed (2002+ Federer, then Nadalovic later) it's lights outs. Not to mention that he couldn't keep his speed intact due to injuries (it's probably what caused it?).
Demon's success is 'not on his racquet' per-se. If no ATG shows up, he'll succeed more, and vice versa. I'm not sure if he can develop a weapon FH/BH, but I think he'd need one in order to be anywhere near #1.
Slams?
That depends on the upcoming transition era.
To me, Demon is like a Hewitt 'Lite'. Hewitt had Demon's game, but better, but once an ATG bloomed (2002+ Federer, then Nadalovic later) it's lights outs. Not to mention that he couldn't keep his speed intact due to injuries (it's probably what caused it?).
Demon's success is 'not on his racquet' per-se. If no ATG shows up, he'll succeed more, and vice versa. I'm not sure if he can develop a weapon FH/BH, but I think he'd need one in order to be anywhere near #1.
Slams?
That depends on the upcoming transition era.
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Hewitt went 4-3 against Agassi from 1998-2002, so it isn't so much an "ATG" that stopped him... but the greatest of all time. Hewitt also had great passing shots, a great return of serve, great groundstrokes and a heck of a lot of speed.I like the Demon's attitude and work ethics toward tennis. I thought his speed was insane vs. Cilic at the USO18 (can he do that day-to-day without fatigue/injury?). With that said, and from what I've seen of Demon's game, I think his peak is top10 (and probably briefly, if that) unless he develops a 'weapon' other than speed.
To me, Demon is like a Hewitt 'Lite'. Hewitt had Demon's game, but better, but once an ATG bloomed (2002+ Federer, then Nadalovic later) it's lights outs. Not to mention that he couldn't keep his speed intact due to injuries (it's probably what caused it?).
Demon's success is 'not on his racquet' per-se. If no ATG shows up, he'll succeed more, and vice versa. I'm not sure if he can develop a weapon FH/BH, but I think he'd need one in order to be anywhere near #1.
Slams?
That depends on the upcoming transition era.
There's a reason he remained top 20 after he lost his speed. He still had weapons.
Boom-Boom
Legend
exactly
Shank Volley
Hall of Fame
Kid needs to grow some hair. Same with Borna Coric. I'm not saying this only to judge them but sponsors want players who look classy and appealing, not like they've just got out of juvenile detention.
NuBas
Legend
Not sure I share same opinions. Both dude looks fine.
Keizer
Hall of Fame
His mechanics are garbage though. He can't even drive the ball on his backhand. Hewitt had great mechanics and variety (best lob pre-Murray, among other things) to match his positive attitude. I don't even think this guy's strokes are as good as Ferrer's are. But then again, Ferrer would've probably won a slam if he had to deal with the likes of Dimitrov, Thiem, and Goffin rather than Prime Fed, Nadal, Djokovic, and Murray.
I can't remember the last person without a weapon (or unreal conditioning and a low error-rate) that won a slam.
Druss
Hall of Fame
Lol....garbage yeah right! His mechanics are much better than Ferrer's. Do you remember Michael Chang? Well this guy will be better. His backhand technique may not look as smooth as Safin's or Djokovic, but it's still efficient. He's got great touch at the net, serve has improved since last year (still got work to do though), lob's pretty good (not as good as Hewitt/Murray, but give him time). I say this guy will be knocking on the door of Top 10 by end of 2019. In 2-4 years he'll be top 5 and won't be surprised he'll win a slam or two.
Shank Volley
Hall of Fame
Blatant nonsense here. Ferrer has textbook strokes, sets his feet and wheels into the strikes. It's why he got surprising power for someone of his size.
De Minaur hits almost every forehand jumping into the air. There's nothing clean about it. Absolutely nothing. People make fun of Thiem for the same reason but at least he's getting ridiculous power out of it.
Guru Apu
Rookie
Maybe he needs new mechanics. Better ones that fix stuff.
Maybe he has more money now to get new car that wont break down?
Keizer
Hall of Fame
Great touch at the net might've been a prerequisite for slams in the past, but you now have Djokovic winning ~2 slams/year for the past 6 years with no overhead to speak of.
Separately, I don't think it makes sense to compare with players of the past. Chang won RG at age 17 - do you really see anyone that young winning a major in this generation? Physical endurance is much less of a differentiator now than it used to be, because players are more fit on average.
Safin and Djokovic's backhands are light years beyond De Minaur's. There's a noticeable hitch to the latter, and De Minaur generates a lot of his power using his wrist/arms rather than from his legs and unit turn. Watch Djokovic-Safin in the AO 2005 and you'll see that Djokovic's backhand was always based on his unit turn. I just think this guy will have to develop a lot of consistency to be able to match up to the power hitters in the game, and I don't see that being easy with his arm-focused (rather than body-focused) mechanics.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
I mean, I agree with you that De Minaur has very little tennis skill indeed. But isn’t the argument that he does have unreal conditioning and a low error rate?
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
I hope he can climb back into the triple digits this year. His fall into the 30s is not indicative of how much of a journeyman he really is
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