Moya on Rafa's "mental and physical fatigue," pulling out of Wimbledon, and the SF against Djokovic

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Moya's interview, via Punto de Break (link to article, in Spanish)

What made Nadal withdraw from Wimbledon and the Olympics

"The clay court season was very hard on him, with a lot of mental and physical pressure. Rafa ended up exhausted.

He is going to take a well deserved break. This is a marathon, a long distance race where you have to make some hard decisions, and we thought it was best to stop and come back at full strength. Rafa two years ago had reached a point of great mental fatigue from which it was very difficult to escape, and now he felt that he was close to that again. He can't allow himself to play a Grand Slam if he's not at 100%, because of his reputation, of prestige, and how he is."


How the loss to Djokovic affected him

"The loss didn't affect him as much as the fact that there's one fewer week than usual to prepare for Wimbledon, as well as the context of being in a pandemic. It's complicated on a mental level to face a lockdown ahead of a big match, to play with few spectators. This affects Rafa, he is a person who has a great connection with people and it was hard to go to London with a quarantine in between."

Analysis of the match against Djokovic

"It was a match similar to the one they played in Rome a few weeks prior. It was all very even, and it was vital to win a series of points that could change the balance of the match. Novak was better in these situations, like at 5-6 in the third set, but it was also key that Rafa allowed him to settle into the match when he was dominating at 5-0 in the first. Even though he closed the set, seeing Djokovic raise his level created doubts in him.

We talk a lot about tactics, but to win these matches you have to be on point with all your strokes. Rafa make a lot of unforced errors and his serve and backhand weren't at their usual level. Novak did it better, he pinned Rafa to his backhand corner, from where he couldn't easily escape. We will learn a lot from this match.

[Djokovic] has an impressive mentality, and determination rarely seen in the history of the sport
. All members of the Big 3 have made each other better."
 
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jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
My takes from this interview:
  • No mention of any injury; just physical and mental exhaustion. I think Rafa overplayed this clay season to try and get to #2 and avoid a potential SF against Djokovic at RG
  • Rafa wants to be at 100% when he plays a Slam. He is foregoing Wimbledon to be fully prepared for the USO. In a different interview, Moya says he plans on playing Canada and Cincy
  • Djokovic stringing a few games in a row at the end of the first set was very important to give himself some confidence (and take some confidence away from Nadal)
  • "We will learn a lot from this match [SF vs Novak]" sounds like a warning for future matches against Djokovic
 

steenkash

Hall of Fame
Nadal should grow his hair out longer, go to Australia, pick up surfing, and trip on some acid. Novak hit him hard with that defeat at RG.
 
As Forget said, showing real class. Not blaming the injury. Rafa is a class act.
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miko

Semi-Pro
Good so there was no actual injury, just mental and physical fatigue, which is understandable

I don't believe in these interviews anymore. Tennis is an individual sport, they won't and, most importantly, shouldn't disclose anything vital. This is not to say there is injury (actually I am tired that whenever there is an upset, almost immediately injury concerns reappear). What I mean, before the SF, I read an interview in which the same Moya claimed Rafa was better prepared for this RG than last year. Really?! He must have been watching different Rafa...
 
He better otherwise he went out with a whimper...
It won’t be easy for him but he’s came back many times before just like Djokovic and Federer. They are all great champions. Us open will be tough though as the hard court field is stronger now and the surface change too.
 

miko

Semi-Pro
It won’t be easy for him but he’s came back many times before just like Djokovic and Federer. They are all great champions. Us open will be tough though as the hard court field is stronger now and the surface change too.
I totally agree it won't be easy at all.

For starters, he needs to fix the damn serve (and if there is an underlying issue, attend to it). I really must be missing something but I don't get why he can't re-employ the US Open 2010 serve just for a big tournament such as US Open & AO.
 

Why did Forget come out then and say to everyone that Nadal told him he had injured his foot lol? The thread on that initial topic was deleted hastily when it first came out. Seems Forget likes to stir things up as evidenced by article above
 
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pj80

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Why did Forget come out then and say to everyone that Nadal told him he had injured his foot lol? The thread on that initial topic was deleted hastily when it first came out. Seems Forget likes to stir things up as evidenced by article above
forget that guy
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
I totally agree it won't be easy at all.

For starters, he needs to fix the damn serve (and if there is an underlying issue, attend to it). I really must be missing something but I don't get why he can't re-employ the US Open 2010 serve just for a big tournament such as US Open & AO.
He relies on his serve more than ever now, hence why he can't win without it anymore even on clay. Beefing it up in a big tournament is too much of a risk for him because if he's not consistent with it then he's DOA. He's too much of a rhythm player to risk bouncing match-to-match not knowing if he can rely on his serve or not that day and how that'll affect his plan of attack. And of course there's the injury concerns that it may or may not cause.

The bigger concern to me atm is cutting out the double faults on 2nd serves. It's not like they're happening because he's hitting risky 2nds, he's just getting jittery and missing.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
He definitely needs to reduce his clay schedule going forward

Catch-22 though. Rafa has always used the clay season to pump his ranking up and secure favorable draws for the other Slams where he is weaker. Less clay equals tougher draws for the rest of the year.

I totally agree it won't be easy at all.

For starters, he needs to fix the damn serve (and if there is an underlying issue, attend to it). I really must be missing something but I don't get why he can't re-employ the US Open 2010 serve just for a big tournament such as US Open & AO.

Because he's 11 years older now lol. And his serve was never that good. That's the devil's bargain he made by playing with his non throwing arm.
 

miko

Semi-Pro
Beefing it up in a big tournament is too much of a risk for him because if he's not consistent with it then he's DOA.

I understand. I don't say it should be his PLAN A. But whenever he falls down 15:30, bring out the big guns.

Here's the blueprint:

 
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Deleted member 748597

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Nadal needs to ditch some clay Masters. It's all about Slams for these veterans.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Fair and objective analysis i would say. When Novak fought back at 5-0 at the end of the first set I knew Nadal would be in trouble.

in terms of learning from the match it is one thing to learn and another to execute. Besides this was not them playing for first time and Novak took him by surprise.
All 3 of them learned from their losses and executed after that. There's no reason to believe Rafa can't do it again.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Nice comments from Moya. So why did Forget come out and imply Nadal lost because he had an injured foot? I don't trust this guy and he revealed his bias. I don't for one second think it's a coincidence that time and time again Novak was being shafted by the schedule at RG while Nadal was not. It's amazing Djokovic was able to win 2 RG titles with someone like that as tournament director.
 

Milehigh5280

Professional
Catch-22 though. Rafa has always used the clay season to pump his ranking up and secure favorable draws for the other Slams where he is weaker. Less clay equals tougher draws for the rest of the year.

I get that, but at his age preserving his body and playing on fresh legs should be more important than an easier draw
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame

Why did Forget come out then and say to everyone that Nadal told him he had injured his foot lol? The thread on that initial topic was deleted hastily when it first came out. Seems Forget likes to stir things up as evidenced by article above
Forget never said that, and Nadal never said that to him. No one mentioned any injury at any moment.
 
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