MS200 Tour Pro

johndagolfer

Professional
Constant pull, non-electric, foot pedal activated. It's spring tensioned.

I can get it for $500

What do you guys think is it worth it?

BTW the condition is 9 out of 10. I think it has had minimal use
 
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BekSide

New User
Constant pull, non-electric, foot pedal activated. It's spring tensioned.

I can get it for $500

What do you guys think is it worth it?

BTW the condition is 9 out of 10. I think it has had minimal use


don't even think about it.
i just paid for a new one.

will get dilivered tomorrow.
paid €970,77 for it.

but thats a 10 out of 10;)
 

johndagolfer

Professional
sweet. I should be picking it up in a few weeks!

Since this will be my first quality machine, what should I be looking for in terms of maintenance? Should I check the tension, etc?

Thanks!
 

1012007

Hall of Fame
Yeah you should definitely go for it. I bought one for around that price and so glad I did. The warranty is transferable, and although mine had around a year left, I knew how good SW customer service is, as I had emailed them lots when I was researching the MS200. Even though my warranty is up they still send me stuff for free, and post it our the next day. Although I cannot guarantee this I am sure they would do the same. They have sent me lots of stuff like the little rubber supports that are needed on the racket supports and the tightening screws etc.
 

johndagolfer

Professional
actually nope. That's my plan B though. I will be travelling down to Tulane in early April. So if this first one falls through I am going to grab that one if its still around.
 

johndagolfer

Professional
If this purchase doesn't work out and I do not like the machine, do you think it would be possible to sell the machine to at least make my money back?

Is a foot pedal machine difficult to use?
 

Danstevens

Semi-Pro
If this purchase doesn't work out and I do not like the machine, do you think it would be possible to sell the machine to at least make my money back?

Is a foot pedal machine difficult to use?

If not your money back, I doubt you'll be far short if you decide to sell it.

I wouldn't have thought the foot pedal would be any more difficult to use than any other way of starting the tensioner, in fact, it's supposed to be quite easy. It might take you a few string jobs to get used to using the foot pedal instead of doing something else if you've had a different type of machine before. Once you get used to the pedal, I would think that it will be fast and easy.
 
i just bought an MS200....

If this purchase doesn't work out and I do not like the machine, do you think it would be possible to sell the machine to at least make my money back?

Is a foot pedal machine difficult to use?

There is no doubt that once you get used to the foot pedal operation, you will not want to use anything else. I have been stringing on my MS200 for just a little over a week. It took me about 2 racquets to get used to the foot pedal.

One thing that you should know is this machine is a speed demon. My racquet stringing time went from 40 min. average (crank tension or dropweight) to about a 25 minute average.

You have a chance to buy it at $500. If you don't like it, I will buy it from you for $600. That should tell you something. I have seen used MS200's go for about $900-$1000 (US) on average. I paid just over $1,700 (US) for mine new with all the bells and whistles. In other words, go for it!
 

Cfidave

Professional
alternatennis, is there anything you don't like about the machine? I am looking at a new one, and been doing a lot of reading, almost all positive remarks. I have read about clamp draw back, and lack of 360 degree rotation, which is not really a problem for me ( I have an Ektelon Model H). Other then those two things I have not read any other serious negatives. Your input as an owner would be very helpful.
 
alternatennis, is there anything you don't like about the machine? I am looking at a new one, and been doing a lot of reading, almost all positive remarks. I have read about clamp draw back, and lack of 360 degree rotation, which is not really a problem for me ( I have an Ektelon Model H). Other then those two things I have not read any other serious negatives. Your input as an owner would be very helpful.

I have the t92 (single-action) clamps, and the drawback issue is pretty much negated as long as you push the clamp towards the direction of the pull before you tighten the string. Even if you don't, it is only about an 1/8" drawback, and should fix itself on the next string.

I added the concorde system to mine which allows the base table to swivel so that you don't have to go over the throat of the racquet when doing the first few mains. You will not have 360 rotation after you do the first few mains, but it doesn't matter to me because I prefer the string to go straight from the racquet to the tension head.

I strung alot on a NEOS before this machine, and I loved the glide bars on it. The MS200 is basically the same glide bar concept as the NEOS except the MS200 allows you to turn the clamps 360 degrees at all times. It is very efficient, and speedy.

The only negative is that calibrating can be a little tricky, but mine was dead on accurate out of the box. Its not a huge deal because you only have to calibrate every 20 racquets or so (personal preference). Also, the crank tension setting on the Ektelon H you used is going to make the constant pull tension feel very tight on the MS200. I recommend going down about 2-3 pounds from what you normally string at if you switch from the Ektelon H to the MS200. For example, I strung my Prince Original graphite at 68 lbs on a NEOS. I string the same racquet at 65-66 lbs on the MS200, and it feels very close. This is because of the whole lock-out versus constant pull tension systems issue.

Cheers,
 
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johndagolfer

Professional
Ok one thing I found out about the machine I was going to buy is that it's not in fact as new as I thought. It is 8 years old (bought somewhere near the time when they first were introduced). It has only strung maybe 12 or so rackets in its lifetime because there was access to a better machine.

Should I be worried about the disuse?

Do you think I should haggle down to say $400?

He also mentioned that he wasn't comfortable with the machine because of the way it strung natural gut(something about not picking up the slack all that well)??? Does anyone know what he's talking about and again should I be worried?
 

Cfidave

Professional
John, thanks very much for the speedy reply. Sounds like a great machine. I do like the glide bars on the Neos/Ektelon, but my biggest gripe is the need to switch the whole glide bar assembly for the crosses, and then you are left with only one clamp for doing crosses. I will look into the concord setup, I think I saw it on the SW electric model. Thanks again
 
Ok one thing I found out about the machine I was going to buy is that it's not in fact as new as I thought. It is 8 years old (bought somewhere near the time when they first were introduced). It has only strung maybe 12 or so rackets in its lifetime because there was access to a better machine.

Should I be worried about the disuse?

Do you think I should haggle down to say $400?

He also mentioned that he wasn't comfortable with the machine because of the way it strung natural gut(something about not picking up the slack all that well)??? Does anyone know what he's talking about and again should I be worried?

The main thing that you will need to do is put grease on the spring on the inside, and grease on the underside of the clamps where they attach to the clamp poles. Do not put grease on the glide bars, but use vaseline instead. I think it is awesome that the machine has only strung 12 racquets. That is a good thing, not a bad thing. Grease will bring most of the moving parts back to life. If it was made 8 years ago, and he is the only owner, then you can transfer the remainder of the warranty over to yourself. You should have 2 years left on it, which gives you time to check if anything needs to be replaced. Mark at Alpha should be able to help you with the warranty transfer.

You will probably have to order a babolat retainer piece (15 bucks from Alpha) because i assume this machine has the "t-bar" throat support instead of the current one.

The problems with pulling soft strings like natural gut on the MS200 is 99% user error. All you have to do is pull the string by hand tightly into the tension head. I have yet to find a string that this does not work on. If you do find a string that leaves slack, then at worst you have to push the foot pedal down twice and re-tension the string (takes like 10 seconds at most). I think you would have to be pulling a really soft string at greater than 70 lbs. for this to happen though. The guy who owns the machine currently probably had a bunch of customers (8 years ago) that wanted their racquet strung with natural gut at like 75 lbs. because they heard Pete Sampras did that.

If you can get that bad boy for $400, more power to you. My offer still stands at $600 if you buy it and don't like it.

Cheers,
 
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johndagolfer

Professional
HI all,

Here are a few pics of the machine I am wanting to get. Does this look like it's in satisfactory condition? I am going to offer $425. What do you guys think am I being too stingy?

Thanks


ms2001.jpg

ms2002.jpg
 
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kensan

Rookie
Well I would get it in a heartbeat. I've re-fallen in love with my klipper, but for 500 (or less) it's a no-brainer.
 
that machine looks really nice...

It is basically the same machine i have, except for the concorde system. It appears to have the T92 single action clamps (awesome), and the mounting system is pretty much what they offer right now. I'm surprised it doesn't have the T-bar mount (older system), but that's good because you don't have to upgrade.

I would snatch that thing up so fast for $425 they wouldn't know what hit them. With it being a local shop instead of a big box store, I would go in with $400 in cash and just see if they take it.

You are one lucky dude. You are basically getting a top of the line upright machine for under the price of a decent tabletop machine.
 

Sublime

Semi-Pro
I am going to offer $425. What do you guys think am I being too stingy?

If you can get it for $300 good for you, by all means get it for as little as you can. Just know that anyone willing to pay $800 for a stringer would pay that much for this stringer. So the most important thing is to get it, even if they won't budge from $500.

For this machine, consider it a deposit. Even if you use this machine for 5 years, I bet you can get all your money back out of it if you sell it.
 
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