Prediction: Thiem will never win another title

[thomasferrett]

Some people are actually predicting this guy will one day be a Slam winner (by the way, the COVID Open doesn't count as a Slam, so Thiem is still slamless).

However, I'd like to assert the notion that Thiem is already in terminal decline at a fast rate (can't even reach the final of the his strongest Slam anymore, let alone win it), and Rublev thouroughly dominates him. Not only will his peers overtake him, but those who are already declining (like the Big Three) will pull ahead of him further because he is declining at a faster rate than them.

Not only will he never win a Slam, but he will never win another TITLE (even an ATP 250. He's just not capable of that kind of level will his lack of talent and weapons. Trying to rely solely on a clutch mental game (like edging Nadal on tie-breaks) is not a winning strategy - you need the talent and the game in the first place otherwise mental toughness is meaningless. Thiem has already overachieved due to his mental game, because in terms of actual tennis; he's nothing.

EDIT, oh, and while I remember it; Sinner as well. He'll never win another title. Just another hype job.

 

[Amritia]

Deluded

 

[MichaelNadal]

Some people are actually predicting this guy will one day be a Slam winner (by the way, the COVID Open doesn't count as a Slam, so Thiem is still slamless).

However, I'd like to assert the notion that Thiem is already in terminal decline at a fast rate (can't even reach the final of the his strongest Slam anymore, let alone win it), and Rublev thouroughly dominates him. Not only will his peers overtake him, but those who are already declining (like the Big Three) will pull ahead of him further because he is declining at a faster rate than them.

Not only will he never win a Slam, but he will never win another TITLE (even an ATP 250. He's just not capable of that kind of level will his lack of talent and weapons. Trying to rely solely on a clutch mental game (like edging Nadal on tie-breaks) is not a winning strategy - you need the talent and the game in the first place otherwise mental toughness is meaningless. Thiem has already overachieved due to his mental game, because in terms of actual tennis; he's nothing.

EDIT, oh, and while I remember it; Sinner as well. He'll never win another title. Just another hype job.

 

[thomasferrett]

Deluded

People who hype players are deluded. Naysayers are never deluded.

 

[3loudboys]

I'll take that bet on either Thiem or Sinner.

 

[3loudboys]

People who hype players are deluded. Naysayers are never deluded.

 

[Yugram]

People who hype players are deluded.

Totally. I laughed in the face of people on this forum, who predicted 15 Slams for Tsitsipas after AO 2019.

But no titles for Thiem is a bit.. farfetched. And especially for Sinner.

Thiem not winning another Slam is highly likely though.

 

[Breakpointerer]

Totally. I laughed in the face of people on this forum, who predicted 15 Slams for Tsitsipas after AO 2019.

But no titles for Thiem is a bit.. farfetched. And especially for Sinner.

Thiem not winning another Slam is highly likely though.

I hear Thiem has been practicing hitting exclusively netcord winners, so he has a very good chance indeed

 

[lim]

Timmy has a clutch mental game

 

[Third Serve]

Some people are actually predicting this guy will one day be a Slam winner (by the way, the COVID Open doesn't count as a Slam, so Thiem is still slamless).

However, I'd like to assert the notion that Thiem is already in terminal decline at a fast rate (can't even reach the final of the his strongest Slam anymore, let alone win it), and Rublev thouroughly dominates him. Not only will his peers overtake him, but those who are already declining (like the Big Three) will pull ahead of him further because he is declining at a faster rate than them.

Not only will he never win a Slam, but he will never win another TITLE (even an ATP 250. He's just not capable of that kind of level will his lack of talent and weapons. Trying to rely solely on a clutch mental game (like edging Nadal on tie-breaks) is not a winning strategy - you need the talent and the game in the first place otherwise mental toughness is meaningless. Thiem has already overachieved due to his mental game, because in terms of actual tennis; he's nothing.

EDIT, oh, and while I remember it; Sinner as well. He'll never win another title. Just another hype job.

Thanks for the laughs.

 

[Breakpointerer]

Great analysis.
Here's another gem

It's not JUST that Shapovalov lacks consistency; it's that even his 'highlight' shots are weaksauce with no power/spin on them. He's not physically strong enough to hit big.

So, in summary, he is a pusher.

 

[TheNachoMan]

I foresee many ATP 250s in his crystal ball

 

[ForehandCross]

ROFL.

See you this Sunday.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Deluded

No, just trying to troll hard, but failing even harder.

 

[terribleIVAN]

Funny, after watching him make Rafa crap his pants 3 days ago, and realising he's 15-18 vs the Big 3, i started wondering if he's already past Murray talent-wise.

Murray was their whipping boy most of the time, but Thiem has shown to more than hold his own vs all of them.

 

[La Pavoni]

Funny, after watching him make Rafa crap his pants 3 days ago, and realising he's 15-18 vs the Big 3, i started wondering if he's already past Murray talent-wise.

Murray was their whipping boy most of the time, but Thiem has shown to more than hold his own vs all of them.

Because obviously, the big three are at the same level that they have been for the last 12 years.

 

[TennisHockey]

OP, you're trying too hard

 

[GabeT]

I hear Thiem has been practicing hitting exclusively netcord winners, so he has a very good chance indeed

Netcords are my best shots

 

[terribleIVAN]

Because obviously, the big three are at the same level that they have been for the last 12 years.

This has to be taken into account, of course.

But if one compares both, it's clear to me Thiem has more tools than Murray.

He also dominates easier .

 

[Deleted member 771911]

I enjoyed reading this. I am getting tired of the Thiem hype, which is disgraceful on the BBC right now where the commentators talk like the audience has no tennis knowledge or analytical skills. They talk him up and say he'll be the next No.1 when he's in huge danger of being passed by by Rublev and co.
I think Thiem will win 5 x ATP250, 3 x ATP 500, 2 x ATP 1000 and make 2 more slam finals before his career is done.

 

[Keizer]

No titles for Sinner? What has he done that is not worthy of hype? Nobody is saying he will be ATG, but top 5 seems perfectly legitimate. He is among the most successful players in the last decade at his age and seems to have good technique and temperament.

 

[Deleted member 775898]

Funny, after watching him make Rafa crap his pants 3 days ago, and realising he's 15-18 vs the Big 3, i started wondering if he's already past Murray talent-wise.

Murray was their whipping boy most of the time, but Thiem has shown to more than hold his own vs all of them.

Thiem would've also been their whipping boy had he faced them in their primes.

 

[tudwell]

No, just trying to troll hard, but failing even harder.

It’s such a strange trolling method. Take players who hit the ball huge, often mindlessly so, like Thiem and Shapovalov, and say they’re weaponless pushers. It’s so absurd on its face I don’t know why anyone bothers responding. It’d be like calling Simon a servebot over and over.

 

[Mainad]

Funny, after watching him make Rafa crap his pants 3 days ago, and realising he's 15-18 vs the Big 3, i started wondering if he's already past Murray talent-wise.

Murray was their whipping boy most of the time, but Thiem has shown to more than hold his own vs all of them.

Thiem still has a long way to go before he achieves as much against the Big 3 as his fellow 'whipping boy'.

 

[La Pavoni]

This has to be taken into account, of course.

But if one compares both, it's clear to me Thiem has more tools than Murray.

He also dominates easier .

Recency bias. And comparing apples and (passed their best) oranges.

You can say that Thiem has more weapons, but that wasn't really what Murray's game was about (I haven't been a fan of Murray until the end of his career). Having a big game, full of weapons, is great. However cavalry aren't a lot of good in a naval engagement.... Thiem has got better as he's learnt when to use his offensive gifts, but he still looks a bit lost at times.

 

[King No1e]

Some people are actually predicting this guy will one day be a Slam winner (by the way, the COVID Open doesn't count as a Slam, so Thiem is still slamless).

However, I'd like to assert the notion that Thiem is already in terminal decline at a fast rate (can't even reach the final of the his strongest Slam anymore, let alone win it), and Rublev thouroughly dominates him. Not only will his peers overtake him, but those who are already declining (like the Big Three) will pull ahead of him further because he is declining at a faster rate than them.

Not only will he never win a Slam, but he will never win another TITLE (even an ATP 250. He's just not capable of that kind of level will his lack of talent and weapons. Trying to rely solely on a clutch mental game (like edging Nadal on tie-breaks) is not a winning strategy - you need the talent and the game in the first place otherwise mental toughness is meaningless. Thiem has already overachieved due to his mental game, because in terms of actual tennis; he's nothing.

EDIT, oh, and while I remember it; Sinner as well. He'll never win another title. Just another hype job.

Sure buddy.

 

[Arak]

Some people are actually predicting this guy will one day be a Slam winner (by the way, the COVID Open doesn't count as a Slam, so Thiem is still slamless).

However, I'd like to assert the notion that Thiem is already in terminal decline at a fast rate (can't even reach the final of the his strongest Slam anymore, let alone win it), and Rublev thouroughly dominates him. Not only will his peers overtake him, but those who are already declining (like the Big Three) will pull ahead of him further because he is declining at a faster rate than them.

Not only will he never win a Slam, but he will never win another TITLE (even an ATP 250. He's just not capable of that kind of level will his lack of talent and weapons. Trying to rely solely on a clutch mental game (like edging Nadal on tie-breaks) is not a winning strategy - you need the talent and the game in the first place otherwise mental toughness is meaningless. Thiem has already overachieved due to his mental game, because in terms of actual tennis; he's nothing.

EDIT, oh, and while I remember it; Sinner as well. He'll never win another title. Just another hype job.

Is that you, Kiki?

 

[Third Serve]

Truly amazes me how utterly wrong some posters can be. We're smashing records out here, lads.

 

[terribleIVAN]

You can say that Thiem has more weapons, but that wasn't really what Murray's game was about

Thiem is better than Murray at taking time away from his opponents: his BH is more powerful, and his serve seems more reliable.

A better shotmaker who also fights right to the last point, something Murray couldn't claim.

 

[La Pavoni]

Thiem is better than Murray at taking time away from his opponents: his BH is more powerful, and his serve seems more reliable.

A better shotmaker who also fights right to the last point, something Murray couldn't claim.

Thiem was lucky that he was playing Zverev to get the monkey off his back in major finals. If Djoker hadn't got himself disqualified, I genuinely don't think Timmy! would have beaten him.

Even Murray managed to beat Zverev a few weeks before that at Cincy. Essentially on one leg.

Also I actually think that this time last year Thiem was hitting the ball bigger and cleaner than he is this year.

 

[thomasferrett]

It’s such a strange trolling method. Take players who hit the ball huge, often mindlessly so, like Thiem and Shapovalov, and say they’re weaponless pushers.

Shapovalov and Thiem are examples of underpowered, underweight soy boys trying to hit the ball hard by flinging themselves into each shot. Yet the results are not a big shot. If any fast-twitch athlete, or even Nadal put as much into their shots as they try to, they'd hit 600mph groundies with 24k rpm topspin on them. But because guys like Nadal have the potential to hit with that much power, they can instead chose to hit with more control and accuracy at 30% power and the result is still a 100mph 4000rpm shot (which takes Thiem 100% of his power to achieve).

So guys like Shapovalov and Thiem are not pushers because of their tactics, they're just pushers by default because they lack the physicality to hit big.

 

[Mainad]

Thiem is better than Murray at taking time away from his opponents: his BH is more powerful, and his serve seems more reliable.

A better shotmaker who also fights right to the last point, something Murray couldn't claim.

You should seriously consider amending your username to "terribleposterIVAN".

 

[ForehandCross]

Thiem was lucky that he was playing Zverev to get the monkey off his back in major finals. If Djoker hadn't got himself disqualified, I genuinely don't think Timmy! would have beaten him.

Even Murray managed to beat Zverev a few weeks before that at Cincy. Essentially on one leg.

Also I actually think that this time last year Thiem was hitting the ball bigger and cleaner than he is this year.

It's quite the opposite.

Thiem gave a very good account of himself in Melbourne in Djokovic's home ground.

He was extremely nervous because it was Zverev and could not handle being the fav to win it.

If it was Djokovic, he would be the underdog who would give his all to try to win. He fought till last point in Melbourne, why not in New York?

 

[Daniel Andrade]

great another strong rule

 

[kishnabe]

Thiem in his peak years. Should win many more titles.

 

[Sudacafan]

Threads like this have me coming back once to GPPD once in a while, only to remind me why I had left.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Totally. I laughed in the face of people on this forum, who predicted 15 Slams for Tsitsipas after AO 2019.

But no titles for Thiem is a bit.. farfetched. And especially for Sinner.

Thiem not winning another Slam is highly likely though.

Who wins them all? He made 2/3 slam finals this year.

 

[Zetty]

Easier to predict a player never winning a slam again that has only won one slam so far by the age of 27. But to say he'll NEVER win another title and he's #3 in the world? Lol

 

[Meles Fan.]

 

[D.Nalby12]

Op trying to give tough competition to Sureshs. But he will fail.

 

[MeatTornado]

Domi is going to win Australia, Miami, Wimbledon, Canada, Cincy, Shanghai, Paris and the YEC before his career is done.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Ok

 

[Tennisbg]

Probably no more slams but he will surely win 500s.

 

[terribleIVAN]

You should seriously consider amending your username to "terribleposterIVAN".

Sorry, but your hero got his spirit broken time and time again by Fed and Rafa.

Thiem always pumps himself up right to the last point, win or lose.

They dont call him "The Austrian Death Machine" for nothing.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Netcords are my best shots

@Yugram isn't too happy with your post

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Great analysis.
Here's another gem

Mereko sach batao ye kahi tumhara alter ego to nahi na??

 

[Tshooter]

 

[stingstang]

Shapovalov and Thiem are examples of underpowered, underweight soy boys trying to hit the ball hard by flinging themselves into each

All the trolling aside, this is actually an interesting point. Think weight classes in combat sports. Some of the clueless pundits seem to think muscle does nothing but weigh you down.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

As a literal thread, it's an unintentional joke.

As an intentional joke the thread is unfunny.

Either way, useless.

Maybe this is a fearful Thiem fanatic trying to jinx Novak in the semis. I have no idea what's going on here.

 

[Steve0904]

I might actually agree with the OP if he said he would never win another slam, and I basically agree that the USO was like a 0.5 slam. But Thiem is guaranteed to vulture another 250 somewhere, and he will probably win Vienna (again?). And I expect a couple more Masters.

So in essence this is extreme trolling, but with grains of truth thrown in here and there.