Roddick should have won that match

tennis_hand

Hall of Fame
both deserve it. Andy deserve it more.
Federer could have his No 15 in many other chances.
but for Andy, he probably doesn't have many chances left. so he deserved it more.
 

Gluposti

Banned
both deserve it. Andy deserve it more.
Federer could have his No 15 in many other chances.
but for Andy, he probably doesn't have many chances left. so he deserved it more.
Andy tried so hard he should have won. Federer just stole the victory from him. Federer is not a nice person and should not have been given the trophy.
 
Look at the genius who could count.
That's rich, Coming from the thick headed clown who denied that Federer had lost more slam finals than Roddick more than twice until I had to break down nice and simple for him. It is even funnier because you were the first one to resort condescending remarks even when you were clearly wrong. Can you say owned? :lol:
 
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hyperwarrior

Professional
Roddick deserved it more. He outplayed Federer for most of the match. He won more total games in the match. He just played one poor game at the end in which it appeared he was tired and didn't move his feet. But for the rest of the match, he was serving incredible. It seemed like not even Federer could read his serve today like he normally can. Those body serves on big points was genius. His groundstrokes were amazing, much more consistent and penetrating than the "old" Roddick. And what can you say about those backhand down-the-line passes and drives? Almost Nalbandian-like? He also volleyed and half-volleyed extremely well, except of course, those two that he missed in the what turned out to be critical 2nd set tiebreak.

Anyway, I feel really sad for Roddick. He fought his heart out but still came up short, once again, to Roger Federer. Can you imagine how many Grand Slams Roddick would have if Federer decided to play soccer instead of tennis as a junior? I hope this doesn't turn out to be a crushing demoralizing blow to his career and that he can keep up his recent stellar play and newly found attitude and confidence. But he's probably feeling pretty low right now and not liking that Federer guy so much. :(

Ok, somebody is hacking Breakpoint account?!?!?!

Seriously, I have to agree with Breakpoint, I'm a pro-Federer and feel really bad for Andy. There's part of me who want to see him winning the title and if Fed lost that, I was pretty sure he can break the record next time...
Andy should stay with Stefanski, that was a wise choice.

You guys can follow Andy on twitter http://twitter.com/andyroddick, he seems ok now...
 
Ok, somebody is hacking Breakpoint account?!?!?!

Seriously, I have to agree with Breakpoint, I'm a pro-Federer and feel really bad for Andy. There's part of me who want to see him winning the title and if Fed lost that, I was pretty sure he can break the record next time...
Andy should stay with Stefanski, that was a wise choice.

You guys can follow Andy on twitter http://twitter.com/andyroddick, he seems ok now...
Idk if federer could have broken the record next time. You see Rafa will be back on court soon and there is a very good chance that he will go back to whopping fed's behind. So, I am happy Federer took his chance and broke the record.
 

hyperwarrior

Professional
Idk if federer could have broken the record next time. You see Rafa will be back on court soon and there is a very good chance that he will go back to whopping fed's behind. So, I am happy Federer took his chance and broke the record.

Fed wasn't 100% recovered from mono and Rafa barely beat him last year at wimby '08. Aussie '08, the match could have gone either way.

Now the pressure is off, I expect Fed to turn around his head-to-head record against Rafa like he did against Hewitt.

Oh and I'm crossing fingers that Rafa won't meet Soderling in slams ever again...
 
M

Morrissey

Guest
That's rich, Coming from the thick headed clown who denied that Federer had lost more slam finals than Roddick more than twice until I had to break down nice and simple for him. It is even funnier because you were the first one to resort condescending remarks even when you were clearly wrong. Can you say owned? :lol:

Can you say hypocrite? You critisized me for the very same thing you couldn't do, count. Pot meet kettle.
 
M

Morrissey

Guest
The only reason Federer's stats showed more "aces" and "winners" is because Federer has this uncanny ability to get his racquet on everything. As soon as Federer touches the ball or shanks off the frame or he hits the ball into the net or out, it's no longer counted as an "ace" or a "winner" for Roddick in the stats. Roddick hit so many body serves at Federer which handcuffed Federer and the ball dropped right in front of him. None of these were counted as "aces" nor "winners". But why should that matter? Federer still loses the point.

Oh, why is this coming from me? Because I'm an objective analyst and I call them as I see them. I'm not a blind fanboy that will support my idol no matter what. You must have me confused with the *********s and Murraytards on this board.
I guess when your boy wins you're objective but in January you were not objective.
 
Can you say hypocrite? You critisized me for the very same thing you couldn't do, count. Pot meet kettle.
Can you say clown? I immediately acknowledged the poster that he was right and federer had 15. Unlike you, who began acting like a lame tough ass with your condescending remarks and reluctance to see you were indeed wrong. Look who is bitter? :lol:
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Idk if federer could have broken the record next time. You see Rafa will be back on court soon and there is a very good chance that he will go back to whopping fed's behind. So, I am happy Federer took his chance and broke the record.
You mean at this year's US Open? To say Nadal's chances are slim to none would be very generous.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
I guess when your boy wins you're objective but in January you were not objective.
When was I not objective in January? Federer served horribly, well below his normal standards, as shown by both his serving percentage and just by actually watching the match, probably due to his back injury at the time. That's why he lost the match. It was clear. If he served the way he did at Wimbledon, he would have easily beaten Nadal at the AO. Just look at the scores for the first 4 sets. Federer won his sets easily while Nadal barely won his (7-5, 3-6, 7-6, 3-6). Federer lives and dies by his serve. His serve was the only reason he beat Roddick in the Wimbledon final. It's hard to compete with 50 aces.
 

fps

Legend
You mean at this year's US Open? To say Nadal's chances are slim to none would be very generous.

you are just....

nadal is the world number one and reached the semi-finals last year at the end of a gruelling season. to say he has slim to no chance is nothing short of moronic.
 

lawrence

Hall of Fame
you are just....

nadal is the world number one and reached the semi-finals last year at the end of a gruelling season. to say he has slim to no chance is nothing short of moronic.

sorry but your post is kind of contradictory
he reached the semi-finals last year when he was in good shape

but you think he'll do better this year after his knee's been severely messed up - to the point he's had to withdraw from wimbledon?
 

fps

Legend
sorry but your post is kind of contradictory
he reached the semi-finals last year when he was in good shape

but you think he'll do better this year after his knee's been severely messed up - to the point he's had to withdraw from wimbledon?

i think these are two different types of *shape*. if his knees recover to the level they were at before, which is the hope given that the main non-surgery treatment for this kind of deal is R&R, he will be fresh at the USO, not suffering from general match fatigue having spent the whole season overplaying, which is what he tends to do. by the end of his match against murray last year he was gasping for breath, and i think this is partly due to the lack of recovery time he had throughout the year, not just the match on the day.

so it is possible that he will play the USO this year and be fresher than he was last year. if his knees don't recover to 2008 levels, i agree that his chances of winning will be severely diminished, otherwise i think they are enhanced.
 

charaseac

Rookie
i believe he deserve another slam. I wont say 4 or 5 more, but at least one more. He is very different than he was when he first won his slam. He is more humble, more mature, and he is a HARDWORKER. Andy deserve one more, i hope it will be the next USO
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
you are just....

nadal is the world number one and reached the semi-finals last year at the end of a gruelling season. to say he has slim to no chance is nothing short of moronic.
No, it's being realistic.

Bad knees + Hardcourts = No Mas

In addition, it's not like Nadal has won the US Open before. And when was the last time Federer has lost a match at the US Open?
 
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killertubbie

New User
No, it's being realistic.

Bad knees + Hardcourts = No Mas

In addition, it's not like Nadal has won the US Open before. And when was the last time Federer has lost a match at the US Open?

The last time he lost at the US Open was the last time I had sex with my g/f:cry:
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
Sometimes you can't just go by the statistics, you have to actually watch the match. And from what I saw, Roddick outplayed Federer. I mean Federer was only able to break Roddick ONCE in all those games played (75 games), and it was in the very last game for the win.

But in a slam final u can only afford so many free points to Fed. I still think Roddick blew his chance by handing over a 4 set pt lead in the 2nd set tb. That was fatal because it sets up a 5th set with no tb and with Fed serving first it made it a 100 times harder for Roddick to come out on top. Should they play another 4th set tb with Andy up 2-1 the chances would be a lot better for him.
 

FEDEXP

Professional
This whole "he deserved it more"; "he was outplayed" is such bull doody if you don't get the W. They are not achieved based on "deserving" it.
 

rafan

Hall of Fame
When it was announced Nadal was not going to play Wimbledon, the sigh of relief amongst the rest of the players must have been heard on the moon. Suddenly people like Haas and Roddick changed gear and pow they showed what they could do. Roddick admitted that he had not worked as hard as Murray even. It shows what he can do when he gets off his butt and goes for it. I can never understand why he has not done better. I have always liked him as a player and his serve is amazing. If he can keep this up he could take the USO
 

Turning Pro

Hall of Fame
When was I not objective in January? Federer served horribly, well below his normal standards, as shown by both his serving percentage and just by actually watching the match, probably due to his back injury at the time. That's why he lost the match. It was clear. If he served the way he did at Wimbledon, he would have easily beaten Nadal at the AO. Just look at the scores for the first 4 sets. Federer won his sets easily while Nadal barely won his (7-5, 3-6, 7-6, 3-6). Federer lives and dies by his serve. His serve was the only reason he beat Roddick in the Wimbledon final. It's hard to compete with 50 aces.

If Nadal didn't have that epic with Verdasco he would've destroyed fed in straight sets. Nadal wasn't even 70-80% in the final,lol
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
If Nadal didn't have that epic with Verdasco he would've destroyed fed in straight sets. Nadal wasn't even 70-80% in the final,lol
Thanks for informing us how out of shape and out of condition Nadal is and that he's just not cut out to be a pro tennis player. No wonder he's never made it to 21 consecutive Grand Slam semis. :(
 

sh@de

Hall of Fame
If Nadal didn't have that epic with Verdasco he would've destroyed fed in straight sets. Nadal wasn't even 70-80% in the final,lol

If Nadal can't sweep through his opponents, there's nobody to blame but himself. Just like how Fed took 5 sets to beat Berdych at the AO, imagine if he lost the next match against DP, he couldn't have blamed his previous match for tiring him out. Tired isn't an excuse. If you're not fit enough, go train more and beef up.
 

Turning Pro

Hall of Fame
Thanks for informing us how out of shape and out of condition Nadal is and that he's just not cut out to be a pro tennis player. No wonder he's never made it to 21 consecutive Grand Slam semis. :(

It was the longest mens singles match in AO history so nobody can be at even 80% for a match a day and a half later, Fed was supposed to bagel nadal according to many posters here, everyone was favouring him here, on hc's on nadals worst surface, fed had the advantage yet still got owned by Nadal. :twisted:
 

TNT

Rookie
I wonderi if this loss won't end Andy's carrer. I mean if Agassi had lost the "99 French final I don't think he would have had the success he had in his second half of his career. Hopefully Andy can keep himself motivated. By the way everybody deserves to win until someone else does. Also we all have our favorite players but to say that I hate form so and so to "win anything of significance" is just Wrong and lame and unsportsman like.
 

Beacon Hill

Hall of Fame
Breakpoint,
If a player barely touches a ball and his "shot" has no chance of going in play, his opponent is still credited with a winner.
 
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TennezSport

Hall of Fame
Confused???

Fed was supposed to bagel nadal according to many posters here, everyone was favouring him here, on hc's on nadals worst surface, fed had the advantage yet still got owned by Nadal. :twisted:

I am always confused by the use of the word "owned" used on these boards. To me "owned" would mean a 61 62 61 match, not a 5 set match over 4 hrs long. I also have to back BP and say that neither player was 100% as Raf was tired and Fed was fighting a bad back, but the player who toughed it out won, plain and simple; no "owned". Most of the matches that Raf and Fed have played have been this way (except the the FO'08 ), struggles for both and a testament to both players abilities.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:
 
I don't know that Roddick should have won the match, but I was pulling for him. It would certainly have been the sweetest thing after all the hard work he's put in, and having gotten to the finals for the 3rd time. Rather Lendl-lesque.

After all, he was able to break Roger's serve more than once, and was really hanging in there. I love and watch tennis a lot, and accept whoever wins either way most of the time. But for the first time in a long time, I felt really crushed for a player's loss. Schade.
 

fed_is_GOD

Professional
I dont understand what the problem is with you people who state fed played below his level...what if he did that??? fed played a decent game...he brushed big players in straight sets..(haas,kohli,karlo,( all of whom beat big players(djoker,verdasco etc)) fed had a bad day... agreed.. but it does not mean he did not deserve to win this title... roddick lost how many sets till the final?? he has almost done by hewitt... fed deserved more than any body else..
 
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