joah310
Professional
i like the colors, but kinda wished the word drive wasnt slapped on both sides mirrored like the way they did
Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Babolat Pure Drive 2021
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TennisHound
Legend
Yep agreed. I like the wrap around on the ‘18.
jwocky
Rookie
Hmm! Personally, the blue/black of the 2021 PD and the other cosmetic changes are aesthetically more pleasing than the 2018 version.
Not sure if the SWX Pure Feel viscoelastic rubber is a different material than the C2 Pure Feel viscoelastic rubber (with Cortex) in the PS 3rd Gen sticks except perhaps for any placement location differences to absorb shock. It would be really interesting to investigate exactly how much of any of these materials is in these racquets.
Not sure if the SWX Pure Feel viscoelastic rubber is a different material than the C2 Pure Feel viscoelastic rubber (with Cortex) in the PS 3rd Gen sticks except perhaps for any placement location differences to absorb shock. It would be really interesting to investigate exactly how much of any of these materials is in these racquets.
Devil_dog
Hall of Fame
Same here! I was fortunate to playtest the 2015 and 2018 racquets. Had a great experience with those racquets and currently use the 2018 PD plus sticks.
JonnyAbs
Semi-Pro
do you like the 2018 a lot better than 2015? I have stuck with 2015 because they seem to have more control to me. Less spin though.
Devil_dog
Hall of Fame
Oh, yeah, the 2018 was a better racquet for me. The 2018 had more dampening qualities, better stability and less brassy feel, imho. The 2015 had the modified stringbed that did offer a bit more control but I prefer the 2018 string pattern. 2018 PD definitely feels more powerful, too, but that's purely subjective. With the right strings - I use Volkl Cyclone Tour 17g - the 2018 PDs offer plenty of punch whether you're a counter puncher or aggressive baseliner. I felt like the 2015s I had to be more aggressive to get the most out of the racquet.
bigserving
Hall of Fame
I am going to go out on a limb and say that this is going to be a very popular playtest!
SinneGOAT
Hall of Fame
I’m hoping I get mine and don’t because I’m not home lol. But I will probably demo myself if I’m not in the demo team.I’ve not heard anything, but I’ve also not seen anyone post that they’re in, so in my mind...
Chezbeeno
Professional
Haha my thoughts exactlyI’ve not heard anything, but I’ve also not seen anyone post that they’re in, so in my mind...
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Slowtwitcher
Legend
I just finished a Tony Robbins book so I just know I'm getting picked!
fundrazer
G.O.A.T.
Wooo! Was selected for the play test. This will be my second. Playtested the pure strike 100 last year and had a good time with that.
Additionally I have a thread in the tournament section where I blabber about some of my matches. Will be fun to add more ramblings there.
Thanks TW
Additionally I have a thread in the tournament section where I blabber about some of my matches. Will be fun to add more ramblings there.
Thanks TW
RafaBabolat
Rookie
OMG thank you Tennis Warehouse for the opportunity to playtest this racquet! I was on the 2018 Pure Drive playtest and had a great experience, hope to have another great one with the new Pure Drive!
kvan
Semi-Pro
Was selected as well! Excited to share my insight.
I’ve always gravitated toward heavier frames and I’ve only ever played the Pure Strike line of racquets from Babolat for extended periods of time (the 2014 version heavily modded was my racquet of choice for a couple years).
Here’s my racquet history to give you a sense of my background while we wait in agony for the next week or so. I’ve only included frames that I stuck with for over a year.
Prince Spectrum Comp 90
Volkl C10 Pro
Babolat Pure Strike 16x19 (2014, heavily modded)
Wilson RF97
Currently experimenting with a Blade v7 18x20, but not seeing much of a difference in match results compared to my RF97, so I’m not completely sold on it, yet.
I’ve never used a tweener for an extended playtest, so it’ll be interesting to see how my 4.5 game reacts. I’ve been playing a lot more doubles recently and think this new Pure Drive will compliment my game pretty well, although I’m a bit skeptical in the feel (and swingweight department). Glad to hear slices sound sublime on this year’s model, though!
I’ve always gravitated toward heavier frames and I’ve only ever played the Pure Strike line of racquets from Babolat for extended periods of time (the 2014 version heavily modded was my racquet of choice for a couple years).
Here’s my racquet history to give you a sense of my background while we wait in agony for the next week or so. I’ve only included frames that I stuck with for over a year.
Prince Spectrum Comp 90
Volkl C10 Pro
Babolat Pure Strike 16x19 (2014, heavily modded)
Wilson RF97
Currently experimenting with a Blade v7 18x20, but not seeing much of a difference in match results compared to my RF97, so I’m not completely sold on it, yet.
I’ve never used a tweener for an extended playtest, so it’ll be interesting to see how my 4.5 game reacts. I’ve been playing a lot more doubles recently and think this new Pure Drive will compliment my game pretty well, although I’m a bit skeptical in the feel (and swingweight department). Glad to hear slices sound sublime on this year’s model, though!
Power Player
Bionic Poster
I'm in. Super excited for this one! I'm currently using the Blade v7 I bought upon it's release last year and an Ultra Tour weighted up to match the Blade. It's going to be fun to see how the frames compare.
winchestervatennis
Hall of Fame
My email must be broken!
Look forward to reading reviews of all selected.
Look forward to reading reviews of all selected.
BallBasher247
Semi-Pro
Doesn't look like I got in either, unless they're still sending e-mails. Probably too new around here. Welp, best of luck to the playtesters who got selected, and looking forward to the reviews!
joah310
Professional
yeah ive been in a bunch of string tests and one shoe playtest. havent seen a string test in a while though.
pyrokid
Hall of Fame
I got in, pretty hyped. Let my old coach know I'd be getting a chance to play around with the new PD and he told me I'm gonna have a blast and should probably switch to it if it gives me enough spin to keep full-stroke groundies in without changing my form much.
Then he sent a really long rant about the pure aero...
Then he sent a really long rant about the pure aero...
haqq777
Legend
Looking fwd to your comprehensive review and hopefully an in-depth comparison with your APDs
Bhagi Katbamna
Legend
Didn't get in on this one. Looking forward to the reviews and the comparisons to past Pure Drives.
pyrokid
Hall of Fame
Yep, gonna be doing a lot of back and forth with the 2013 APDs. I'll have to take the lead off off one for a stock comparisonLooking fwd to your comprehensive review and hopefully an in-depth comparison with your APDs
Lucky you!
TennisHound
Legend
Here's my unofficial prediction for the playtests
Comments on racquet performance for each stroke (each section should be 3-5 sentences minimum):
-Groundstrokes: Racquet felt good from the baseline. Plenty of power on defensive shots, but slightly lacking in pinpoint control. I could get the racquet in position quickly but it could use a little weight at 12.
-Serves: Racquet felt good on serves. I was able to hit bomb flat serves and slice kick serves were bouncing off the court. I wasn't quite able to pinpoint where my serves were going, but it usually hit the spot I was aiming
-Volleys: Racquet felt good on volleys. I was able to get the racquet in position with no problem, and didn't notice a lot of twisting on hard shots. Volleys generally went where I was aiming, but not as precise as a Prince Phantom 93P or 360+ PMP.
-Serve returns: Racquet felt good on returns. I was able to get the racquet in position with no problems, and didn't notice a lot of twisting on hard serves. Sometimes returns would fly from the power, but generally I was able to control my returns and block back hard serves with ease.
Comments on racquet performance in each area (should be 2-3 sentences minimum)
Power/Control- Racquet was very powerful and had decent control, but not pinpoint control like a Prince Phantom 93p or 360+ PMP
Top Spin/Slice- Topspin and slice was very easy, but had some difficult with backhand slice court penetration. Not as good as a Prince Phantom 93p or 360+PMP on slices but generally easy to hit slice with. Comfort- Slightly less comfort than the 2018 but no arm or wrist problems.
Feel- Feel was a little livelier than the 2018, but not jarring.
Maneuverability- Very maneuverable and easy to get in position, due to the HL balance and lighter SW.
Stability - Racquet felt stable for its light weight, and I didn't much twisting on hard shots. Off center this weren't quite as jarring as the Pure Aero and the racquet had a large sweetspot.
General reaction/comments on overall performance:
Racquet performed well and felt close to the 2018 but a little livelier response. It was maneuverable and played just like what you would expect from a PD. Its a nice update and I'll be making the switch.
Comments on racquet performance for each stroke (each section should be 3-5 sentences minimum):
-Groundstrokes: Racquet felt good from the baseline. Plenty of power on defensive shots, but slightly lacking in pinpoint control. I could get the racquet in position quickly but it could use a little weight at 12.
-Serves: Racquet felt good on serves. I was able to hit bomb flat serves and slice kick serves were bouncing off the court. I wasn't quite able to pinpoint where my serves were going, but it usually hit the spot I was aiming
-Volleys: Racquet felt good on volleys. I was able to get the racquet in position with no problem, and didn't notice a lot of twisting on hard shots. Volleys generally went where I was aiming, but not as precise as a Prince Phantom 93P or 360+ PMP.
-Serve returns: Racquet felt good on returns. I was able to get the racquet in position with no problems, and didn't notice a lot of twisting on hard serves. Sometimes returns would fly from the power, but generally I was able to control my returns and block back hard serves with ease.
Comments on racquet performance in each area (should be 2-3 sentences minimum)
Power/Control- Racquet was very powerful and had decent control, but not pinpoint control like a Prince Phantom 93p or 360+ PMP
Top Spin/Slice- Topspin and slice was very easy, but had some difficult with backhand slice court penetration. Not as good as a Prince Phantom 93p or 360+PMP on slices but generally easy to hit slice with. Comfort- Slightly less comfort than the 2018 but no arm or wrist problems.
Feel- Feel was a little livelier than the 2018, but not jarring.
Maneuverability- Very maneuverable and easy to get in position, due to the HL balance and lighter SW.
Stability - Racquet felt stable for its light weight, and I didn't much twisting on hard shots. Off center this weren't quite as jarring as the Pure Aero and the racquet had a large sweetspot.
General reaction/comments on overall performance:
Racquet performed well and felt close to the 2018 but a little livelier response. It was maneuverable and played just like what you would expect from a PD. Its a nice update and I'll be making the switch.
TennisHound
Legend
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Chezbeeno
Professional
I'm curious to get some input from long-time PD users on strings/tension. Given the strings that it'll come with my immediate thought would be a hybrid with the RPM and XCel, but given that the RPM is a 17g and XCel is fairly lively, I don't know if that combo would be tough to control?
This is the PD, so I'm sure there are some strong opinions out there for best string setups.
This is the PD, so I'm sure there are some strong opinions out there for best string setups.
TennisHound
Legend
If you use the strings provided, I would suggest using Excel on the mains and RPM on the cross around 56-58lbs. I prefer a full bed of poly .16ga around 58. If I use 17ga I string it around 56.
Chezbeeno
Professional
I was leaning toward 56lbs, I feel like it's a sweet spot for a lot of racquets. Why do you say to use the XCel in the mains? I've always done poly in the mains of hybrids to maximize spin production.
RafaBabolat
Rookie
I am planning to just go to Tour Bite 1.20 @ 56lb, which is my favorite setup in my 2018 Pure Drive. I may try full RPM Blast, but I think I'll just prefer the TB
TennisHound
Legend
I feel like the smooth(ish) poly on the crosses will allow the Excel to move and snap back. The theory is that the mains will move and when they snap back, they will create spin on the ball. Again, that may or may not be true, so use what you feel works. I've used syn gut, and some multifilament on crosses and it roughened up and hindered the poly from moving. The problem is that poly also roughens up, but not as fast IMO as syn gut or multi.
pyrokid
Hall of Fame
I should string up my old swirly for comparison too.
Full disclaimer though, I actually liked the newer PDs more than the swirlies, for a lot of the sale reasons I like the 2013 apd more than the APDO.
I've been stringing my PAVS' with isospeed baseline at like 44/42, that was where I was gonna start with the PD. Does that sound like a problem?
Full disclaimer though, I actually liked the newer PDs more than the swirlies, for a lot of the sale reasons I like the 2013 apd more than the APDO.
I've been stringing my PAVS' with isospeed baseline at like 44/42, that was where I was gonna start with the PD. Does that sound like a problem?
loosegroove
Hall of Fame
With the 2018 Pure Drive, I wasn't a fan of a hybrid. Felt like I needed to go full poly to get the best out of the stick. With the hybrid, I was having an issue with depth control and consistent launch angle.
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TennisHound
Legend
It can't hurt to string up your Swirly and find out, since it has a tighter string pattern than the later version PD.
pyrokid
Hall of Fame
That's what I like to hear. Open patterns are all I can deal with!
I know these won't have as much spin as the pure aero, but if they're around the same level as the aeropros were... Hoo boy. I have a feeling that's wishful thinking though
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Chezbeeno
Professional
I'm guessing that you mean that the ball was sailing deep/high on you? That's kind of what I'm afraid of with a hybrid in a PD.
loosegroove
Hall of Fame
It was weird. When just trying to hit relaxed and smoothly (like say during warmup and mini tennis), I was dumping the ball into the net a fair amount more than usual. Then I'd try to adjust and I'd be sailing the ball long.
Chezbeeno
Professional
Well. Neither of those things sound appealing. What hybrid did you use? I'm still curious about trying the multi in the mains, as TennisHound recommended.
loosegroove
Hall of Fame
I was using some Pro Pros string I had on hand, but was a setup I had tried in multiple rackets without such issues. I did poly mains, maybe multi mains would have worked better. But I never do multi mains in a hybrid because durability is such an issue.
Chezbeeno
Professional
I've similarly only ever done poly in mains for hybrids because of durability, I'm interested to try multi mains...I'm leaning against doing that for this playtest, though. Since the whole point is testing out the racquet, I don't want to have a string setup that's super different than what I'm used to and be unable to tell what elements of the frame/string setup are more responsible for the hitting experience. At the moment I'm leaning toward full RPM at about 56.
