The Official Angell Users Club

[topspn]

I am not sure how we got through our team drill today. Rain overnight and a wet court that we mopped but i was very hesitant with committing to any footing. We got through it and i gotta say this weight @7” makes me smile. It seems to just smooth out a racquet's swing and my TC95 was humming and hammering balls. Just a simple 3.8g added so total weight is now 347.7g and 31.3cm bal.

 

[Pneumated1]

I was comparing a frame construction like the K8 that @topspn suggested (and not the TC95) with the C10 Pro.

Yeah, I know. I was just saying I'd rather not depart from the TC95 too much. Just give me 8 mains in the bridge of it, but it's all hypothetical anyway.

 

[scf]

Let me repeat myself

What's the point of 8 mains in the throat? How does it matter?

 

[topspn]

Let me repeat myself

Simple, for 16x19 you get a sweet spot with more control and precision.

 

[scf]

Simple, for 16x19 you get a sweet spot with more control and precision.

Do you mean that you have 8 instead of 6 strings per same throat width? more dense pattern?

 

[Pneumated1]

Do you mean that you have 8 instead of 6 strings per same throat width? more dense pattern?

Precisely, like Volkl 16x19s and many Yonex 16-main frames.

 

[andyN]

I am not sure how we got through our team drill today. Rain overnight and a wet court that we mopped but i was very hesitant with committing to any footing. We got through it and i gotta say this weight @7” makes me smile. It seems to just smooth out a racquet's swing and my TC95 was humming and hammering balls. Just a simple 3.8g added so total weight is now 347.7g and 31.3cm bal.

I had a similar experience this week but slightly the opposite,
got myself a TC97, it hit very stable with no lead needed with plenty of pace, plow and power, in fact I call this easy power. However it did swung a bit head heavy so I open the grip pallets up and notice 20 grams of lead at the 7 in slot, so I though I move 10gr down toward the butt cap to make it more HL. But man this took away that power I experience before the mod and lost its stability

So maybe that poster Salween who was sold on lead at the 7in spot is on to something!!!

 

[topspn]

I had a similar experience this week but slightly the opposite,
got myself a TC97, it hit very stable with no lead needed with plenty of pace, plow and power, in fact I call this easy power. However it did swung a bit head heavy so I open the grip pallets up and notice 20 grams of lead at the 7 in slot, so I though I move 10gr down toward the butt cap to make it more HL. But man this took away that power I experience before the mod and lost its stability

So maybe that poster Salween who was sold on lead at the 7in spot is on to something!!!

Yeah, i got intrigued with that 7” spot from reading the Mgr/I thread. I tried it on the K7 i had a while back and it really made a difference. I added to my P17 as well. Now with my TC95s and its 3 in 3

 

[saleem]

I had a similar experience this week but slightly the opposite,
got myself a TC97, it hit very stable with no lead needed with plenty of pace, plow and power, in fact I call this easy power. However it did swung a bit head heavy so I open the grip pallets up and notice 20 grams of lead at the 7 in slot, so I though I move 10gr down toward the butt cap to make it more HL. But man this took away that power I experience before the mod and lost its stability

So maybe that poster Salween who was sold on lead at the 7in spot is on to something!!!

trust me it works.
I have spend more time and effort on tc95 than any other racket (it was my own wrong doing) but I am glad it happened that way, it helped me learn a lot

 

[Pneumated1]

... so I open the grip pallets up and notice 20 grams of lead at the 7 in slot, so I though I move 10gr down toward the butt cap to make it more HL. But man this took away that power I experience before the mod and lost its stability

So maybe that poster Salween who was sold on lead at the 7in spot is on to something!!!

What is the static weight and balance of your frame? I'm interested in finding out which slots Paul uses and how much weight he adds in each location to achieve certain specs. Do you have a leather grip or synthetic? Thank you.

 

[Zoolander]

@Racketdesign

Paul love your racquets build quality but hate the narrow Dunlop head shape. Could you please do an “Angell extreme” with the old round extreme head shape, tighter 16*19 pattern, strung RA of around 66 and foam filled? Since Head abandoned the old extreme mold there’s a niche market there for players like me.

Thanks in advance!

 

[andyN]

What is the static weight and balance of your frame? I'm interested in finding out which slots Paul uses and how much weight he adds in each location to achieve certain specs. Do you have a leather grip or synthetic? Thank you.

the original spec was 310g 6HL with a leather grip. Paul had 2 (10grs) pin at the top of the handle and 1 (12 gr) pin
at the 3rd hole farthest from the buttcap.





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[Pneumated1]

the original spec was 310g 6HL with a leather grip. Paul had 2 (10grs) pin at the top of the handle and 1 (12 gr) pin at the 3rd hole farthest from the buttcap.

Mine came stock at 310g and 9pts.hl with leather. I assumed I'd find a bare hairpin if I took the pallets off, but now I doubt it. So you had 32g of lead in your handle in various places for 310g? Interesting ...

 

[andyN]

i be interested in knowing what your lead configuration under the pallet looks like ...
my assumption since ur is 9pt HL is
no lead at the top of the handle and 32gr all at the bottom closest to the buttcap.

do u like your spec ? does it provide easy power and it’s stability?

let me know if u decide to peak underneath it’s “skirt” ;-)

i modified mine with 30gr at the bottom closest to buttcap and a synthetic overgrip. it’s hitting nice, doesn’t feel heavy, and stable but could use a pinch of lead. it’s my first 3 hrs of hitting with TC97 as i will tinker with it as i hit with it more




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[saleem]

Mine came stock at 310g and 9pts.hl with leather. I assumed I'd find a bare hairpin if I took the pallets off, but now I doubt it. So you had 32g of lead in your handle in various places for 310g? Interesting ...

my original sticks were same spec as your's with synthetic grip, I had 10 grams on very bottom, 12 middle hole and 10 grams on very top hole toward the butt cap.
I rearranged mine added more weights (picked up few 10-15 grams from tire shop)

 

[skeeter]

Similar to what others have contributed, I'm finding that a little weight at 3/9, a touch in the throat, and a little more at 7"/top of the grip does truly 'unlock the magic' of the TC95 16x19.

Any thoughts on weight tweaks to the TC100 that have worked ('unlocked the magic") for folks? Topspin? Recently purchased a V3 version and loving it so far and am thinking about playing around with small amounts of weight to see if there's even more hidden traits to be found.

Stupid question but who makes black zone? FYI, I also play with gut/poly hybrids and have found that WC Silverstring is another soft poly that works well with gut.

THE Angell dream frame for sure

Or for us 100 lovers, a 16x20 in the 100 or, 16x19 with 8 mains in the throat.

 

[topspn]

Stupid question but who makes black zone

Tourna

 

[Pneumated1]

i be interested in knowing what your lead configuration under the pallet looks like ...
my assumption since ur is 9pt HL is no lead at the top of the handle and 32gr all at the bottom closest to the buttcap. do u like your spec ? does it provide easy power and it’s stability?

let me know if u decide to peak underneath it’s “skirt” ;-)

I think you're probably right about it all being in that bottom slot; it felt quite polarized stock. I prefer depolarized frames, so that would also explain why racquet has transformed for me with more central weight. As far as taking the pallet off, I'm resisting, but curiosity may get the best of me

my original sticks were same spec as your's with synthetic grip, I had 10 grams on very bottom, 12 middle hole and 10 grams on very top hole toward the butt cap. I rearranged mine added more weights (picked up few 10-15 grams from tire shop)

I'd prefer to have the weight distributed evenly across the hairpin. I may have to go to work on this pallet.

Before I do, can someone confirm that Paul does sell replacement pallets separately?

 

[Pneumated1]

@skeeter wouldn't the old London 16x19 string bed be perfect in either the TC95 or 100? Even the V1 Pro pattern would be great. But I'll take the Angell frames

 

[topspn]

I think you're probably right about it all being in that bottom slot; it felt quite polarized stock. I prefer depolarized frames, so that would also explain why racquet has transformed for me with more central weight. As far as taking the pallet off, I'm resisting, but curiosity may get the best of me



I'd prefer to have the weight distributed evenly across the hairpin. I may have to go to work on this pallet.

Before I do, can someone confirm that Paul does sell replacement pallets separately?

I can confirm he doesn’t like selling it separately but it’s been done

 

[Pneumated1]

I can confirm he doesn’t like selling it separately but it’s been done

My son's demos finally arrived. If he chooses an Angell over one of those, I'll be making a purchase from Paul anyway.

Do you happen to have any Angell 16x19 grommets? I bought an 18x20 set with the TC97 that I sold and would be willing to swap. I need some.

 

[topspn]

My son's demos finally arrived. If he chooses an Angell over one of those, I'll be making a purchase from Paul anyway.

Do you happen to have any Angell 16x19 grommets? I bought an 18x20 set with the TC97 that I sold and would be willing to swap. I need some.

Sorry, no additional grommets! But like you, looks like I’ll be selling the TC97 18x20.

 

[saleem]

Any thoughts on weight tweaks to the TC100 that have worked ('unlocked the magic") for folks? Topspin? Recently purchased a V3 version and loving it so far and am thinking about playing around with small amounts of weight to see if there's even more hidden traits to be found.

Stupid question but who makes black zone? FYI, I also play with gut/poly hybrids and have found that WC Silverstring is another soft poly that works well with gut.


Or for us 100 lovers, a 16x20 in the 100 or, 16x19 with 8 mains in the throat.

pm me your specs I can send you the answer.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Sorry, no additional grommets! But like you, looks like I’ll be selling the TC97 18x20.

Not gelling with it?

 

[topspn]

Not gelling with it?

Bottom line, for me TC97 has a clear head flex which seems to work well for some people and gives a nice comfortable hit. For me, not so much and TC95 just plays more naturally whether 18x20 or 16x19. So I’m not seeing the point to keep trying with a frame to get used to it or dial it in when I play with another more naturally and confidentially.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Bottom line, for me TC97 has a clear head flex which seems to work well for some people and gives a nice comfortable hit. For me, not so much and TC95 just plays more naturally whether 18x20 or 16x19. So I’m not seeing the point to keep trying with a frame to get used to it or dial it in when I play with another more naturally and confidentially.

Completely understand. How are you feeling about the TC95 18x20 vs TC95 16x19...? Do you now prefer the 18x20, or you feel like you would just use different string patterns for different occasions?

I am looking to pass on one or two TC95 16x19s (I have 4) and get a TC95 18x20 to see how they compare. Many of my other racquets are 18x20 or tighter pattern 16x19s (like the DR98), so I have no problem creating spin, and it would be good to see which version I like better.

 

[topspn]

Completely understand. How are you feeling about the TC95 18x20 vs TC95 16x19...? Do you now prefer the 18x20, or you feel like you would just use different string patterns for different occasions?

I am looking to pass on one or two TC95 16x19s (I have 4) and get a TC95 18x20 to see how they compare. Many of my other racquets are 18x20 or tighter pattern 16x19s (like the DR98), so I have no problem creating spin, and it would be good to see which version I like better.

That is an excellent question. The 16x19 TC95 certainly gives a bit raw power (Lets see when i go down in tension to 43lbs on 18x20) and heavier spin. Serves also have more juice and movement from 16x19 but I still like the high precision I get from the 18x20. I have TC95 16x19 ordered and hopefully I’ll get it soon. So yes, I was thinking of keeping the two patterns of the TC95 in my bag

 

[haqq777]

My son's demos finally arrived. If he chooses an Angell over one of those, I'll be making a purchase from Paul anyway.

Do you happen to have any Angell 16x19 grommets? I bought an 18x20 set with the TC97 that I sold and would be willing to swap. I need some.

I have a set of Angell 16x19 grommets. Can swap you for the TC97 18x20. PM me.

 

[haqq777]

That is an excellent question. The 16x19 TC95 certainly gives a bit raw power (Lets see when i go down in tension to 43lbs on 18x20) and heavier spin. Serves also have more juice and movement from 16x19 but I still like the high precision I get from the 18x20. I have TC95 16x19 ordered and hopefully I’ll get it soon. So yes, I was thinking of keeping the two patterns of the TC95 in my bag

Plan on opening an Angell shop? - I saw you might be selling the TC97. Makes sense if you aren't gelling. I have not played tennis in nearly a month. First the inlaws were here and then I tweaked my knee really bad - enough that I had to wear a brace. Still have not gotten the go ahead from my doctor.

The funny tidbit which wasn't so funny when it happened: I tweaked my knee after slipping on a pretzel which I was throwing at the wife across the room to show her how good my throwing arm is, lol

 

[SaaKha]

So I received my TC97 today!! One problem though. While I was looking at the racquet, I noticed the buttcap logo was missing. Checked on the ground and found. Surprised it was basically a sticker. Put it back on but it fell off again a few minutes later. Any suggestions?

 

[mxblink]

So I received my TC97 today!! One problem though. While I was looking at the racquet, I noticed the buttcap logo was missing. Checked on the ground and found. Surprised it was basically a sticker. Put it back on but it fell off again a few minutes later. Any suggestions?

Had a similar issue. Small dab of superglue fixed it for me.

 

[SaaKha]

Had a similar issue. Small dab of superglue fixed it for me.

Was thinking the same thing. It’s a bit disappointing but whatever.

 

[topspn]

Plan on opening an Angell shop? - I saw you might be selling the TC97. Makes sense if you aren't gelling. I have not played tennis in nearly a month. First the inlaws were here and then I tweaked my knee really bad - enough that I had to wear a brace. Still have not gotten the go ahead from my doctor.

The funny tidbit which wasn't so funny when it happened: I tweaked my knee after slipping on a pretzel which I was throwing at the wife across the room to show her how good my throwing arm is, lol

Omg..there is some dark comedy for sure. Your wife is scary if karma protects her from a pretzel Stay on her good side from now on! Yeah, I’m finding the head flex needs getting used to probably while I am already totally comfortable with a uniform flex. My TC97 is on sale and getting a matching TC95 16x19 to the ones i have in 18x20.

 

[saleem]

Plan on opening an Angell shop? - I saw you might be selling the TC97. Makes sense if you aren't gelling. I have not played tennis in nearly a month. First the inlaws were here and then I tweaked my knee really bad - enough that I had to wear a brace. Still have not gotten the go ahead from my doctor.

The funny tidbit which wasn't so funny when it happened: I tweaked my knee after slipping on a pretzel which I was throwing at the wife across the room to show her how good my throwing arm is, lol

moral od the story @haqq777 do not throw pretzel at her
I hope it is getting better.

 

[skeeter]

@skeeter wouldn't the old London 16x19 string bed be perfect in either the TC95 or 100? Even the V1 Pro pattern would be great. But I'll take the Angell frames

Now you're taking some serious strolls down memory lane! I recall that you and I both dabbled with the London for a while. The string patterns in both those frames were indeed sublime. Agree, though, loving me the foam-core and stability of these Angells.

 

[Nick777]

Completely understand. How are you feeling about the TC95 18x20 vs TC95 16x19...? Do you now prefer the 18x20, or you feel like you would just use different string patterns for different occasions?

I am looking to pass on one or two TC95 16x19s (I have 4) and get a TC95 18x20 to see how they compare. Many of my other racquets are 18x20 or tighter pattern 16x19s (like the DR98), so I have no problem creating spin, and it would be good to see which version I like better.

Hi,how do you compare your dr98 and tc95 16/19?

 

[Carreau]

Small review of TC100 + Ultra Cable string.

I have tried it earlier in my PD and it was something wrong with this combination.
However, I found last pack of this string and decided to try it in TC100 at 21.5 kg reference tension (Sergetti).
And I really liked this combination of TC100 + Ultra Cable. It has a really nice access to spin but I was able to hit flat easily if needed, control was really good. Serve spin angles were ridiculous when playing doubles and serving from side of the court. Feel was muted and tad firmer that I’m used to. But I liked it.

Two things I do not like – yes, it cuts my grommets. And strings seem to be quite heavy for its gauge. Balance was quite weird for first hours.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Hi,how do you compare your dr98 and tc95 16/19?

The DR 98 has a much tighter string pattern, 8 mains in the throat. Love both racquets but they are not close on the launch angle and I feel the TC95 has easier power.

 

[saleem]

Small review of TC100 + Ultra Cable string.

I have tried it earlier in my PD and it was something wrong with this combination.
However, I found last pack of this string and decided to try it in TC100 at 21.5 kg reference tension (Sergetti).
And I really liked this combination of TC100 + Ultra Cable. It has a really nice access to spin but I was able to hit flat easily if needed, control was really good. Serve spin angles were ridiculous when playing doubles and serving from side of the court. Feel was muted and tad firmer that I’m used to. But I liked it.

Two things I do not like – yes, it cuts my grommets. And strings seem to be quite heavy for its gauge. Balance was quite weird for first hours.

you are spot on with the review of ultra cable @Carreau as much as I like that string I had the same 2 issues with UC and Blue Rock and power strings, both strings are heavy (specially blue rock) which adds 2-3 sw weight to the my already high sw racket, both are hard on the soft Angell grommets, my choices are 1= Silver string 2= Scorpion 3= Red Ghost 4= Mosquito Bite

 

[haqq777]

I am still hobbling about so just came here to read up how you guys are doing. Living vicariously through y'all! I have my racquets freshly strung with Black Knight 1.23 and itching to go. Weather isn't helping either, glad I have indoors to play.

Anyone receiving snow anytime soon?

 

[saleem]

I am still hobbling about so just came here to read up how you guys are doing. Living vicariously through y'all! I have my racquets freshly strung with Black Knight 1.23 and itching to go. Weather isn't helping either, glad I have indoors to play.

Anyone receiving snow anytime soon?

3-4 layers of clothing, thick wool socks and a pair of gloves will take care of it @haqq777 plus 4c (39.2f) here this morning, I am going to play

 

[haqq777]

3-4 layers of clothing, thick wool socks and a pair of gloves will take care of it @haqq777 plus 4c (39.2f) here this morning, I am going to play

Wow! Stay warm and happy hitting. I just hope I don't freeze on my way over to the courts lol

 

[ace18]

I am still hobbling about so just came here to read up how you guys are doing. Living vicariously through y'all! I have my racquets freshly strung with Black Knight 1.23 and itching to go. Weather isn't helping either, glad I have indoors to play.

Anyone receiving snow anytime soon?

I'm with you @haqq777. I've been grounded since mid-July with a herniated disc in my lumbar and have meniscus knee surgery this Friday. Its been tough staying idle. I can't wait to get back onto the courts..

 

[haqq777]

I'm with you @haqq777. I've been grounded since mid-July with a herniated disc in my lumbar and have meniscus knee surgery this Friday. Its been tough staying idle. I can't wait to get back onto the courts..

Hey best of luck with the herniated disc and knee surgery! Hope it doesn't take long for you to get back on courts again and you recover fast. We all know and hate that feeling of not being able to play!

 

[Pneumated1]

The DR 98 has a much tighter string pattern, 8 mains in the throat. Love both racquets but they are not close on the launch angle and I feel the TC95 has easier power.

A few months ago I viewed the TC95 16x19's pop and launch angle as a curse. I stuck it out, embraced the launch and power, and now both are like my morning coffee--I can't do without them.

Have you hit the tecnifibre atp 305 xtc yet? I was able to hit my son's demo last week multiple times, and it's a switchable option for me, but I can't part ways with the TC95.

 

[topspn]

I am still hobbling about so just came here to read up how you guys are doing. Living vicariously through y'all! I have my racquets freshly strung with Black Knight 1.23 and itching to go. Weather isn't helping either, glad I have indoors to play.

Anyone receiving snow anytime soon?

Lol..dropped off my racquets in the morning by the stringer and BK also going in.

 

[topspn]

I'm with you @haqq777. I've been grounded since mid-July with a herniated disc in my lumbar and have meniscus knee surgery this Friday. Its been tough staying idle. I can't wait to get back onto the courts..

Oh goodness, sorry to hear that! Best of health soon and back to the courts

 

[Pneumated1]

@ace18, you'll be back on court before you know it. I missed all of 2015 after hip surgeries and wondered if I'd ever play again. The body changes and with it your game, but it is a game for life.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

I am still hobbling about so just came here to read up how you guys are doing. Living vicariously through y'all! I have my racquets freshly strung with Black Knight 1.23 and itching to go. Weather isn't helping either, glad I have indoors to play.

Anyone receiving snow anytime soon?

You're making me jealous... I'm dreaming of the time I can go skiing again... In Australia, the best we get is this frozen, icy, thin layered crap... compared to the rest of the world that enjoys real snow and enough of it to really ski.

 

[saleem]

You're making me jealous... I'm dreaming of the time I can go skiing again... In Australia, the best we get is this frozen, icy, thin layered crap... compared to the rest of the world that enjoys real snow and enough of it to really ski.

you can come to Canada and ski as much as you want....on the way back we will pack up all the snow for you to take home with you
this is 20 minutes from my house Silver Star Resort

 

[topspn]

You're making me jealous... I'm dreaming of the time I can go skiing again... In Australia, the best we get is this frozen, icy, thin layered crap... compared to the rest of the world that enjoys real snow and enough of it to really ski.

Lol happy to trade places and live in nice warm sunny with limited crap thin snow. I’d never miss snow for the rest of my life.