The style of the next "one".......

[Bjorn99]

Sorry couldn't find the link that we used for the next one betterer than Federer. I just read the new November issue of Yandell's(Yandel?) and it had a nice article on Maaci the coach who was apparently the groudmaker of the success of the Williams sisters and couple of other big namers. He named swinging volleys as his NEXT big shot to be seen in the next five years. It was his number one thing.

I have been doing that since day one with my two proteges, but I have to tell you that it is my NUMBER THREE improvement to the game. The first two are quite a bit more impressive imo, and as they go along and get more notoriety(it is starting to happen regrettably) I will reveal here, on this site, what they are. I am hoping that this guy Macci or Maaci, doesn't get wind of them, sounds like he has quite the factory in Florida.

As great as Federer is, he COULD and I repeat, COULD look prehistoric soon. That is a huge statement, and it is conditional on these two kids getting all the way to the top.

 

[FedFan_2007]

Blah blah, Fed is outdated, Blah Blah, the "The Next Ones" will win 2x slams as Fed blah blah. So much more for the Noise Machine.

 

[atatu]

Well, how about swinging volleys from the baseline ? I've always thought that if the game keeps evolving and players take the ball earlier and earlier that eventually you'll have a player that is so quick he'll be returning groundstokes out of the air. If fact, I've seen Agassi do it a couple of times and it's pretty amazing.

 

[crazylevity]

Well, how about swinging volleys from the baseline ? I've always thought that if the game keeps evolving and players take the ball earlier and earlier that eventually you'll have a player that is so quick he'll be returning groundstokes out of the air. If fact, I've seen Agassi do it a couple of times and it's pretty amazing.

Have you never played tennis?? A swinging volley from the baseline??!! If you're volleying at the baseline it means that ball was about to fly way long, and it would be your point. People volley back balls that would be long during practice to keep a rally going, but to do it as a matchtime routine shot? No way!

 

[Zuras]

Swinging volleys, AKA those ugly things people do when they would be better off to overhead smash.

 

[crazylevity]

Precisely. The overhead or the smash is one of the most emphatic shots in tennis. Lay the smackdown, and give your opponent the biggest message you can. The swinging volley is a poor substitute, for people who can't time it well enough to smash.

 

[Zuras]

Well, how about swinging volleys from the baseline ? I've always thought that if the game keeps evolving and players take the ball earlier and earlier that eventually you'll have a player that is so quick he'll be returning groundstokes out of the air. If fact, I've seen Agassi do it a couple of times and it's pretty amazing.

Swinging volley from the baseline, eh? Kind of like bunting the ball? Like a pusher but even worse, so we will call them Ushers.

 

[chair ump]

In your face, full frontal attack...to confuse the rest of the baseliners in the game.

 

[FedFan_2007]

But remember these 2 mystery players will each win 15 slams!

 

[Bjorn99]

Well, nice to see you are dissing a coach that has PROBABLY developed more champions than all of us combined. Because he, as well, is advocating this new approach. Not that it is new, but he "sees" it as being a big shot in the future, which I do as well. And much more. Federer in ten years may look as outdated as Connors does now. And that was only twenty years ago or so. And things are changing much more rapidly now. So for all of you, the world is flat people, poke your heads outside the box once in a while, there is a lot of air out there.

 

[FedFan_2007]

Well, nice to see you are dissing a coach that has PROBABLY developed more champions than all of us combined. Because he, as well, is advocating this new approach. Not that it is new, but he "sees" it as being a big shot in the future, which I do as well. And much more. Federer in ten years may look as outdated as Connors does now. And that was only twenty years ago or so. And things are changing much more rapidly now. So for all of you, the world is flat people, poke your heads outside the box once in a while, there is a lot of air out there.

I'm going to go on record now, that when Fed is done, no one is going to come even close to matching his accomplishments for the rest of my life or past 2050.

 

[Byakuya]

I think the "One" will be able to control tennis balls at will with just the mere thought. He will then spend the rest of the time making sweet love to those sexy ball gals and then exit the stage flying like Neo.. i mean Supes

 

[shrakkie]

i think the one is neo

 

[Bjorn99]

Aaaah, nothing like a world filled with hollows. Makes people with a little substance stand out even more.

 

[Grimjack]

Aaaah, nothing like a world filled with hollows. Makes people with a little substance stand out even more.

Thank you.

 

[crazylevity]

Well, nice to see you are dissing a coach that has PROBABLY developed more champions than all of us combined. Because he, as well, is advocating this new approach. Not that it is new, but he "sees" it as being a big shot in the future, which I do as well. And much more. Federer in ten years may look as outdated as Connors does now. And that was only twenty years ago or so. And things are changing much more rapidly now. So for all of you, the world is flat people, poke your heads outside the box once in a while, there is a lot of air out there.

Gee...are you out to confuse us, or are you confused yourself?

 

[Polaris]

The first two are quite a bit more impressive imo, and as they go along and get more notoriety(it is starting to happen regrettably) I will reveal here, on this site, what they are. I am hoping that this guy Macci or Maaci, doesn't get wind of them, sounds like he has quite the factory in Florida.

What do you mean by "reveal"? What priceless tactical gem are you about to reveal to a public message board while hoping that some other coach does not tune in? I hope you do better on your revelations than Twisty did on his, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Bjorn99]

First of all, as I said much earlier, the kids that I am coaching and their parents have bought into the projected image that I have of the future of the tennis and its technique evolutions. Finding out that something I have been doing since day one with them on a very advanced basis, is espoused by Maaci as the number one thing he thinks is THE FUTURE, has only emboldened their ambition and feeling of knowing something most don't.


Even more exciting for us, is that this NEW form of tennis technique is actually our third major amendment to the game that WE think is going to change dramatically, and SOON. Watching Federer makes watching Vitas Gerulaitis, Dick Stockton etc... look almost as prehistoric as watching Helen Moody or Bill Tilden. But in my "humble" opinion, the change in the game, around the corner, is about to make FED look prehistoric.

Golf has changed at the top dramatically, but it has been so subtle, most golf experts have not caught it. YET. Well, of the three things that I think are about to revolutionize the game, the swinging volley has only just begun.


There is never less, ONLY more, and we are about to see some stunning developments. I hope my kids get to be the start of it, but with, or WITHOUT them, it is going to happen.

I will say that the serve is the only thing, that I can't see much in my own mind, how to improve upon. Sampras and McEnroe have provided some really dramatic change and my simple mind hasn't come up with anything more esoteric than Mac's or Petes. But groundstrokes, running and volleys, heheh, just be a little more patient.

 

[Andres]

Am I the only one getting sleepy around here?
Ohhh, maybe it's all the patience!

My bad.

 

[ceejay]

First of all, as I said much earlier, the kids that I am coaching and their parents have bought into the projected image that I have of the future of the tennis and its technique evolutions.

And are you going to tell us what this may be, or just post vague pointless references to it?

 

[Ripper]

I will say that the serve is the only thing, that I can't see much in my own mind, how to improve upon. Sampras and McEnroe have provided some really dramatic change and my simple mind hasn't come up with anything more esoteric than Mac's or Petes. But groundstrokes, running and volleys, heheh, just be a little more patient.

You said something about technology in one of your previous posts; now, you're talking about technique. Regardless of that, I don't know, you sound like you're either, the new wacko in TW town... or you really think you're on to something, but are afraid of sharing the advantage, while, at the same time, being afraid of it coming out through another source and, then, not being able to take credit for it. Looks like you have a dilema in your hands... Or you're crazy, lol!

 

[FREDDY]

the swinging volley from the baseline is a major part of the future for tennis? haha. idk. the basics will definitely remain the same, but swinging volleys alone won't cut it. dont get me wrong its a great shot to hit if its done properly. swinging volley=over head. im confused about the protege part.

 

[Breaker]

I'll be anxiously waiting for the unveiling of this amazing technique- camping out by my computer until it's finally revealed.

 

[Nextman916]

Bjorn why the f*ck do you capitalize everything??

 

[OrangeOne]

And here we have the two extremes:

1. The free-thinker who is encouraging people to accept and desire change, but is (or has a history) of being a little too confident (arrogant) for most tastes. Then again, agents of true change must have self-confidence that beggars belief:

Federer in ten years may look as outdated as Connors does now. And that was only twenty years ago or so. And things are changing much more rapidly now.

2. The worshipper of the now, who either despises or in this case denies the existence of change or advancement, despite the fact that the only constant is often change, and that rarely, if ever, do we see records that are 'set and never touched'.

I'm going to go on record now, that when Fed is done, no one is going to come even close to matching his accomplishments for the rest of my life or past 2050.

It's nice that we're all so different sometimes, and I mean that. Balance should and does come from people being different, not everyone being average

 

[OrangeOne]

Even more exciting for us, is that this NEW form of tennis technique is actually our third major amendment to the game that WE think is going to change dramatically, and SOON.

Oh - and now time for the cynic in me. Laying claim to something that someone else has published as your "third" idea, is a little sus. Not unbelievable, as for sure, many people have the same good idea in isolation sometimes.

*But*, if you are after some sort of cred for your "new techniques", the other two that you're able to unleash on us oneday soon should probably not come with the rider "this other dude published this idea and we had it too/first, in fact it was our second unique idea"!

 

[Polaris]

Oh - and now time for the cynic in me. Laying claim to something that someone else has published as your "third" idea, is a little sus. Not unbelievable, as for sure, many people have the same good idea in isolation sometimes.

*But*, if you are after some sort of cred for your "new techniques", the other two that you're able to unleash on us oneday soon should probably not come with the rider "this other dude published this idea and we had it too/first, in fact it was our second unique idea"!

OrangeOne, you are too forgiving and too kind to Bjorn99's special brand of obfuscation. Perhaps, it is just a question of tone, which is hard to get across on the internet. That might explain the strange capitalization in some of his posts. Still, going by his posting history, it is hard not to be cynical.

 

[Bjorn99]

I have to admit, that especially in the younger students case, there just hasn't been enough time spent on the other two innovations yet, for me to be able to share them. I think both of them are definitely more important than swinging volleys, but the swinging volleys are more fun, so we spend a little more time on them.

I promise that I will reveal them, but it may get more derision. It was nice to see that Macci agrees with an unknown like myself on the swinging volley aspect. I suspect he will shake his head and wonder why he didn't think of the other two, whenever they come out.

I still stand behind my statement of Federers records not being broken. He is the MASTER. These two innovations might, might, enable the two wunderkinds to perhaps win one Master or Grand Slam. The more I watch Federer, the more I am in awe.

 

[crazylevity]

First of all, as I said much earlier, the kids that I am coaching and their parents have bought into the projected image that I have of the future of the tennis and its technique evolutions. Finding out that something I have been doing since day one with them on a very advanced basis, is espoused by Maaci as the number one thing he thinks is THE FUTURE, has only emboldened their ambition and feeling of knowing something most don't.


Even more exciting for us, is that this NEW form of tennis technique is actually our third major amendment to the game that WE think is going to change dramatically, and SOON. Watching Federer makes watching Vitas Gerulaitis, Dick Stockton etc... look almost as prehistoric as watching Helen Moody or Bill Tilden. But in my "humble" opinion, the change in the game, around the corner, is about to make FED look prehistoric.

Golf has changed at the top dramatically, but it has been so subtle, most golf experts have not caught it. YET. Well, of the three things that I think are about to revolutionize the game, the swinging volley has only just begun.


There is never less, ONLY more, and we are about to see some stunning developments. I hope my kids get to be the start of it, but with, or WITHOUT them, it is going to happen.

I will say that the serve is the only thing, that I can't see much in my own mind, how to improve upon. Sampras and McEnroe have provided some really dramatic change and my simple mind hasn't come up with anything more esoteric than Mac's or Petes. But groundstrokes, running and volleys, heheh, just be a little more patient.

That part in bold is just one of the many weird things you say. The swinging volley has been part of the game ever since Nick Bollitieri opened his academy.

 

[OrangeOne]

I promise that I will reveal them, but it may get more derision. It was nice to see that Macci agrees with an unknown like myself on the swinging volley aspect. I suspect he will shake his head and wonder why he didn't think of the other two, whenever they come out.

He *agrees with you?* A little pompous, don't we think? Cart before the horse, etc etc?

 

[Bjorn99]

I probably make twenty times more money than Macci, so I don't think it is that pompous. If I had decided to coach tennis for the past ten years, and if you knew my ability to teach and motivate, I believe I would have dozens of pro players out there. I disagreed vehemently with some of the boxed lunch institutional things that he adheres to. Breaking down blocks and barriers is what I do for a living, and saving lives.

Sorry, I am twenty years ahead of the pack and I am not going to apoligize for it. In business, science, technology and tennis. Thankfully, there are some other people in that category, so it doesn't get totally annoying and boring. Couple of posters here in fact seem totally in que with what it is. I would imagine if I had a chance to talk with Federer, he would be there as well.

 

[Grimjack]

I probably make twenty times more money than Macci, so I don't think it is that pompous. If I had decided to coach tennis for the past ten years, and if you knew my ability to teach and motivate, I believe I would have dozens of pro players out there. I disagreed vehemently with some of the boxed lunch institutional things that he adheres to. Breaking down blocks and barriers is what I do for a living, and saving lives.

Sorry, I am twenty years ahead of the pack and I am not going to apoligize for it. In business, science, technology and tennis. Thankfully, there are some other people in that category, so it doesn't get totally annoying and boring. Couple of posters here in fact seem totally in que with what it is. I would imagine if I had a chance to talk with Federer, he would be there as well.

The "and saving lives" bit was so powerful, I almost wept.

Inventer of the swinging volley, life saver, and one of the world's richest men.

Let's have a big hand for Al Gore, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[OrangeOne]

I probably make twenty times more money than Macci, so I don't think it is that pompous.

You see, and here's me thinking that you're actually, well, at least deep-down an agent of change. You have in the past claimed to be a free-thinking / outside the box thinker, and yet here, it all turns to dust. You're claiming that how much money you make allows to phrase others' ideas as your own? that's ridiculous. You're assuming that earning power provides an entitlement to arrogance? ridiculous. You're estimating the income of someone you don't know? arrogant & ridiculous.

If I had decided to coach tennis for the past ten years, and if you knew my ability to teach and motivate, I believe I would have dozens of pro players out there.

If you knew anything about tennis, you'd know it often takes 5-15 years to make a player. You'd also know that the odds of 'making it' are up there with lotto. Physiology plays a massive role, and often people don't find out that their body can't cope with being a pro until they're on the edge of making it.

I disagreed vehemently with some of the boxed lunch institutional things that he adheres to.

Fine. Doesn't make you right. Doesn't make him wrong. Just means you differ.

Breaking down blocks and barriers is what I do for a living, and saving lives.

And it appears you also construct dangling modifiers of bizarre self-importance!

Sorry, I am twenty years ahead of the pack and I am not going to apoligize for it.

If you were 20 minutes in front of the pack, you'd not be apologising to start a sentence and telling us you're not going to apologise at the end of it. Priceless!

In business, science, technology and tennis.

If you were 20 years in front of the pack, and you'd done *anything* to prove it, we'd have heard of you. You'd have real accomplishments. You'd not be stroking your ego on a tennis board....

Thankfully, there are some other people in that category, so it doesn't get totally annoying and boring. Couple of posters here in fact seem totally in que with what it is. I would imagine if I had a chance to talk with Federer, he would be there as well.

Keep imagining there Bjorn, keep imagining. Federer would be a convert to your thinking, we're all sure. In fact - in a few years, when he stops winning as often, when other challengers arise - why don't you arrange a private audience with him, and teach *him* your new techniques? He's adaptable - you could lengthen his stay at the top, and have Roger himself championing *your* coaching techniques!

 

[angharad]

I probably make twenty times more money than Macci, so I don't think it is that pompous. If I had decided to coach tennis for the past ten years, and if you knew my ability to teach and motivate, I believe I would have dozens of pro players out there. I disagreed vehemently with some of the boxed lunch institutional things that he adheres to. Breaking down blocks and barriers is what I do for a living, and saving lives.

Sorry, I am twenty years ahead of the pack and I am not going to apoligize for it. In business, science, technology and tennis. Thankfully, there are some other people in that category, so it doesn't get totally annoying and boring. Couple of posters here in fact seem totally in que with what it is. I would imagine if I had a chance to talk with Federer, he would be there as well.

If you were as far ahead of the pack as you say, you wouldn't be posting about it on here. You'd be out there doing it. If, for some bizarre reason, you were some genius coach who decided to post on here, you'd back yourself up with concrete proof. You wouldn't be trying to create some air of power and elite mystery about yourself on a board of people who won't, in the long run of things, have any influence or impact on your coaching career.

Insecurity is a disgusting stench, and you reek of it.

 

[krprunitennis2]

I disagree on having swinging volleys as the future shot.... In the future, wouldn't racket companies create rackets that give way more power or something that would make your shots go faster? If that is what will happen, then swinging volleys(which take a lot of preparation), would be almost impossible to execute. That just doesn't make sense....

 

[Bjorn99]

Just seeing what the prevailing mood and sentiment is out there. Certainly don't need any more friends, but could always use more insights. Unfortunately, there is very little intelligent and insightful conversation around here, but that is par for the course in our very hollow world. There are a couple of posters here, that are thought provoking but they don't seem to post much. And most of the rest of the posters are either backslapping fans/homers or worse, bashing negative naysayers. Which is pretty much the prevailing sentiment out there in a very curious time in history.

I mean we live in a world where Bush reads a book about a goat in front of children, upside down, and no one gets the hidden occult meaning of it. It tells you everything you needed to know about 911, and NO ONE got it. No one. He and his gang realize that they have cultivated a world of hollow children who wouldn't see the obvious, IF IT HIT them in the head. Hats off to them and their ilk, they have done a masterful job. It is what makes me appreciate genius like Federer even more.

 

[Brettolius]

You talk alot (about yourself), but don't actually say anything.

 

[Andres]

Sorry, I am twenty years ahead of the pack and I am not going to apoligize for it.

Your user profile says you're 29. But of course, you lied there to hide your "real identity", right? Oh, silly me.

Date of Birth: February 17, 1977
Age: 29

 

[Bjorn99]

Honestly, are you the stupidest guy on the block? Seriously. It is tough to listen to such a schmuck.

Your user profile says you're 29. But of course, you lied there to hide your "real identity", right? Oh, silly me.

 

[Bjorn99]

You talk alot (about yourself), but don't actually say anything


I say more in saying nothing as you say, than YOU have ever said about anything ever on this board. But that isn't saying much is it, hollow?

 

[OrangeOne]

And most of the rest of the posters are either backslapping fans/homers or worse, bashing negative naysayers.

Priceless again! Do you see the irony? You may not be 20 minutes ahead of the world at anything, but your sense of irony....priceless!

 

[Bjorn99]

closing for the night, after playing three hours today, so I am not inclined to go back and forth with a lot of no nothing hollows. Contribute something interesting instead of a pile of pandering patter. Where is tricky, Backhander and the like?

 

[jukka1970]

The "and saving lives" bit was so powerful, I almost wept.

Inventer of the swinging volley, life saver, and one of the world's richest men.

Let's have a big hand for Al Gore, ladies and gentlemen.

LMAO, way too good of a comeback, almost fell off my chair for this one

 

[jukka1970]

closing for the night, after playing three hours today, so I am not inclined to go back and forth with a lot of no nothing hollows. Contribute something interesting instead of a pile of pandering patter. Where is tricky, Backhander and the like?

dude your statements are about a dime short of a nickel. And I have a feeling that your competence is even worse off then that.

 

[Andres]

Are you there, GOD?
It's me, Andrés.

 

[OrangeOne]

so I am not inclined to go back and forth with a lot of no nothing hollows.

There is no more amusing show of a lack of intellect, than when one cannot use the correct words when one criticises ANOTHER's intellect. No nothing? Please....

Contribute something interesting instead of a pile of pandering patter.

Ahh - alliteration! *that's* the key to conquering the tennis world, isn't it! You've just revealed your secret in your tired stupor!

Night night, Dr Seuss!

 

[Polaris]

I say more in saying nothing as you say, than YOU have ever said about anything ever on this board.

Serious stuff. Behold one of the great mystics of the Open Era.

 

[Bjorn99]

More feral teeth gnashing bashing. Typical, by a slew of guys who exhibit nothing but this type of behaviour, whilst contributing NOTHING in the way of observations and theory.

 

[crazylevity]

so what have YOU contributed, other than telling us the swinging volley is the next big thing (it's so not, lots of mindless baseline bashers on the WTA have been using it, to less than good effect), calling the rest of TT hollow, and claiming you know the next big secret to success in professional tennis??

You say you know, and have never ever proved it. What makes you different from a regular troll?

 

[Bjorn99]

Heh. At least this basher has a good sense of humour.