Will Djokovic surpass Federer?

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  1. Netspirit

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    This thread is about overall slam counts, not pivoted by surface or tournament (AO had 2 completely different surfaces and USO has been slowed down in 2010, while RG was reportedly sped up by the lighter ball). Hard, grass or clay - let Djokovic surpass Nadal first, then we can make projections about him breaking the all-time record.

    I doubt Djokovic can reach 11, even with 2 HC slams every year vs. 1 clay slam. It sure looks doable now that Djokovic is at his peak, but players decline fast and it will only take one serious ankle or back injury for Djokovic to lose what gives him the edge, and looking at what he does on court I can clearly see that injury coming.
     
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  2. veroniquem

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    I didn't mention overall slams because it is so obvious Djoko won't surpass (or equal for that matter) 17, I can only assume the op was trolling. So somehow, it was more interesting to use a different angle where comparing actually made sense.

    ETA: also imo counting slams is not everything. I like to look at the big picture and at all the stats.
     
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  3. lvuong

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    Please continue discussing. It is obvious that Murry cannot win against the new King without the wind.

    Nadal is unlikely to recover and even when he is, he will continue to be the Joker's puppet.

    No one looks like being able to defeat the new King now, and in the next 2 two years in 5 set match.

    I would say the chance of the Fed winning another slam is slimmer than of The Joker surpassing the Fed in Slam count one day.
     
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  4. Fiji

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    Nadal is a goner. Murray refuses to use the cvac. Federer is old. The rest are mugs. Advantage Djokovic. Maybe he gets close to Roger.
     
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  5. DeShaun

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    I think he could surpass Nadal who seems to be out of the question as being a threat until he actually returns and posts some results that we can look at.
    Seventeen seems a ways off yet on Novak's path. Novak seems transcendent however in a way that is not related to surpassing Roger's records. He is like a star that has been sent to earth to encourage her people, I mean this.
     
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  6. Fiji

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    He's definetely surpassing Nadal. Surpassing Federer will be hard..
     
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  7. Prisoner of Birth

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    Please continue dreaming. Djokovic won't even reach Nadal, let alone Federer. And some King, who only holds 1 of the 4 Slams. The same as Nadal who hasn't played in 8 months :lol:
     
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    Even if he wins all 4 his playing style is certainly going to take a toll on his body, so no way he surpasses federer
     
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    Maybe he's gambling that he's got that one body in a million which will stand up to the demands of playing elite level tennis the specific way that he desires for longer than would a normal man in his position be able to.
     
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  10. lvuong

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    Don't forget to factor in the Cvac's machine. This guy is indestructible physically.
    And he is tough mentally too. I saw countless times he lost the first one or two sets, only clawing back to win at the end. He is playing better and better as the match goes on.
     
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    lets see..with 6 slams, he has to only equal nadal's current slam count to equal fed.


    and with his defensive grinding style, should be fairly easy to do.
     
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    Probably. 8)
     
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  13. Prisoner of Birth

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    I bet you never studied Probability Theory.
     
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  14. Prisoner of Birth

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    Seriously, how old are you? Cvac's machine? :lol:
     
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    Let's see if he can surpass Rafa and Sampras first, no?
     
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    I see him ending up with 10 or 11. I don't think he's so great on grass, and clay is more wide open. I expect lots of the two hard court slams.
     
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    Fed's easy breezy style allowed him to amass more slams "sooner."
    Rafa's ground and pound style allowed him to amass more slams "faster."
    Novak's chapter is promising, alluring, but yet unwritten.
     
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  18. lvuong

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    I learned the language when I was older, probably after you were born.
     
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  19. Prisoner of Birth

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    I didn't mention any language. Why are you so insecure? :)
     
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  20. lvuong

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    Funny guy. Consider yourself non-existent to me.
     
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  21. Prisoner of Birth

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    Good boy! No mistakes! Here, take some candy!
     
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  22. SLD76

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    no offense but...none of that makes sense.
     
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    What sort of sense?
     
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  24. Prisoner of Birth

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    The sort of sense that makes sense ;-)
     
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  25. DeShaun

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    Which appeals to a postulate apparently still lacking any definition as I originally suspected, but let us hear from himself.
     
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    We will see....hopefully he can win 4 more. Deserves to be in the 10 slam list.

    Surpassing Nadal and Federer when they are active....maybe not.
     
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    Let's start talking if he surpass Sampras and I doubt that. Sure he is superior now but in a few years time there will be new great players emerging and he will get older. Federer was 28.5 years old when he won his 16th slam in Australia and has only won one more since then. Djokovic is now 25.5 years old so if he is to match Federer he must win 3 slams a year in the following years up to the Australian open in 2016 which he must also win. Then they will be tied at the same age (28.5 years). It is possible but he has to be as dominant as Federer was in his prime years. It should also be taken into consideration that Federer at the same age Djokovic is now already had won 10 slams compared to Djokovic 6 so Djokovic is already lagging behind.
     
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  28. SLD76

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    ok one man won slams sooner...than whom?

    one man won slams faster...than what?


    what do u mean?
     
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  29. Povl Carstensen

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    To equal Federers best four years in grand slams, he needs to win 6 of the next 7 gs.
     
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    If Murray continues to be Murray, if Nadal doesn't come back and if Federer reamins to be a grumpy 32-year old, then Djokovic is a firm favorite in every major for the next 2-3 years at least.

    The new generation of players sucks so much it's not even funny. There's no-one with a remote chance of beating him.
     
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    If he does, we need to put clarky in charge of an investigation.
     
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  32. nikdom

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    Djokovic should go for it. Even if he ends up with 11-14 that's a great result.
     
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    Nole already surpassed Federer in hype on this board.
     
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  34. robin7

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    I can see Novak winning 2-digit GS counts while Andy collecting 5 at least.

    Rafa might add a few more but very unlikely to surpass Roger.

    Final tally would be Roger 18, Rafa 14, Novak 12, Andy 6.
     
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