Yonex VCORE SV
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old man stringer 67
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My personal rackets have reduced grommet strips and I have renamed my pet rackets Yonex Spin Vomitus. because what they do to your opponent. when the ball comes in high and deep in the court. After a while the opponents look a little green. Tennis. is so much fun
fundrazer
G.O.A.T.
Forget my last post, these still have the aero fins. the 95 seems to still be 16x20
http://www.yonex.com/company/news/t...-the-new-vcore-launches-from-early-september/
Vcore 95
Vcore 98
http://www.yonex.com/company/news/t...-the-new-vcore-launches-from-early-september/
Vcore 95
Vcore 98
Automatix
Legend
That part of the hoop simply goes inward. The amount of used material is similar.
Check the old Pure Strikes, Steam 99 or the current Blade 99.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I think risk of breakage will only be there if player strings super high tensions like 70 lbs or higher. but otherwise should be ok. Yonex does extensive lab tests to figure out how strong the frame will be after design change. they put the frame under King Kong like pressure and see if it holds upLOL Aero Trench! Less material in the groove but then possible weaker? I've broken older Yonex before, and have seen my friends break Babolats just by hitting hard.
The Liner (Linear?) Tech design does make more sense! It'll certainly feel different.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
This is insane good news. I already hit 2500-3000 RPM's. so this racket will take me to RAFA like level of RPM which is ~4000 RPM's ??
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
will the all red PJ give you more of muted feel ?
DanS
Semi-Pro
You may have so much RPM you'll fly away like a helicopter! lol
mpournaras
Hall of Fame
Forget my last post, these still have the aero fins. the 95 seems to still be 16x20
http://www.yonex.com/company/news/t...-the-new-vcore-launches-from-early-september/
Vcore 95
That looks like someone strung an extra cross then un-wove it lol
Sardines
Hall of Fame
The international site has them all up. No + models though:
http://yonex.com/sports/tennis/products/tennis/racquets/vcore-series/
I like that they've removed the BS numbers of the Aerofin spin effect. I think the added groves in the throat will be a nice tactile addition. The straighter holes will affect the feel somewhat, as well as the NAMD material.
http://yonex.com/sports/tennis/products/tennis/racquets/vcore-series/
I like that they've removed the BS numbers of the Aerofin spin effect. I think the added groves in the throat will be a nice tactile addition. The straighter holes will affect the feel somewhat, as well as the NAMD material.
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XFactorer
Hall of Fame
I'm surprised they didn't mention Kerber using this. They just pushed Caroline Garcia and Denis Shapovolov... and threw in Steven Johnson somewhere in there.
Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
Yonex branding seems to be defeating itself. Only half a year ago the Vcore PRO came out which was advertised as having all sorts of awesome spin benefits from the Namd material. Dubious claims I know, it's what I use at the moment and it is an awesome racquet.
These new sticks which replace the SV range are just called 'Vcore' ... no SV or other branding, and are being advertised as the 'highest spin producing racquet in Yonex history'.
Not that I have a problem with it, it just seems like it's a very short timeframe to be releasing a new stick with that sort of claim, and at the same time the new stick - the 'Vcore' - on paper is better than the 'Vcore Pro'.
These new sticks which replace the SV range are just called 'Vcore' ... no SV or other branding, and are being advertised as the 'highest spin producing racquet in Yonex history'.
Not that I have a problem with it, it just seems like it's a very short timeframe to be releasing a new stick with that sort of claim, and at the same time the new stick - the 'Vcore' - on paper is better than the 'Vcore Pro'.
Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
I have a feeling this has something to do with Kerber having used a blackout paintjob all year. Another poster was sure that she was 'testing' the new Vcore's all year, but I find it hard to believe as it is well known she uses a paintjob frame. I think she just falls into the superstitious group of players who only want one type of paint (Delpo, Mannarino, etc).
XFactorer
Hall of Fame
The VCORE and the VCORE Pro lines are geared towards different audiences. VCORE more like what you'd think of as Babolat's Pure Aero line whereas the VCORE Pro is more like their Pure Strike line. Different geometrics give different effects and feelings. I bet these are stiffer and don't have the maneuverability as the VCORE Pro. I would have switched to those if I weren't so in love with the club like EZONE 98 that I'm using.
Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
Yeah I totally get that, I was more just talking about why they have named them in such similar ways. It really doesn't matter though!
Karma Tennis
Legend
IMO!!! ...
Yonex frames are the most fragile amongst all the leading brands. The isometric shape and the materials used in their construction make them susceptible to even the lightest of blows to the outside of the hoop area.
I've seen several Yonex frames crack at the 10 and 2 positions as a result of minor impacts to the hoop.
Yonex placed a clause in many of their sponsored players contracts that would penalise the player financially if they were seen to be abusing their Yonex frames during play.
Todd Woodbridge, responding to Gavrilova smashing a racquet at the Hopman Cup, commented that Yonex racquets are more susceptible to breakage than other brands because of the isometric shape.
Racquet manufactures test the strength of their racquets by stressing them the way a racquet is supposed to be stressed (ie with a ball impact to the string bed.). They do not focus on testing them for impact on fixed objects or the court.
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I like abusing the ball better like I hit it into Pacific ocean if I get angry. I don't bounce the racket. However, I do worry if racket can crack on minor head bounce of the racket on the court. it means it is at higher risk of crack during stringing at high tensions.
Sardines
Hall of Fame
I think it's more the thin, hollow carbon structure that's fragile, in conjunction with cross sections getting thicker. I've personally broken a Yonex and Wilson, and I've seen guys crack Babolat and Volkl among others, with off center shots like overheads and big forehands. Of course, I don't know what the racquet has been through. I know many people bounce their racquets on hard courts.
The isometric shape would logically be more susceptible to impact on the ground at the bend, but the strength of the construction should be able to handle mishits.
The isometric shape would logically be more susceptible to impact on the ground at the bend, but the strength of the construction should be able to handle mishits.
Karma Tennis
Legend
The new PJ is let down by the black bumper and grommets. The black breaks up the nice lines. Would have been much better if they were colour matched to the frame. But I guess that would increase the production cost.
Sardines
Hall of Fame
Interestingly, the SV+ series is now back online on the US Yonex website. I guess they read the forums! It's still off the catalogs from 2016-2018. But at least we've moved them in small ways! Haha
http://www.yonexusa.com/sports/tennis/products/tennis/racquets/vcore-sv-series/vcore-sv-98-1/
http://www.yonexusa.com/sports/tennis/products/tennis/racquets/vcore-sv-series/vcore-sv-98-1/
o0lunatik
Professional
Sardines
Hall of Fame
Yes well I'm surprised it's not a very popular stick. I think many find it too stiff and dead feel.
time_fly
Hall of Fame
Feel isn't bad as modern racquets go. It's only a 21mm straight beam. I suspect most players won't even try it because of the extended length. It's a weird spec combination -- the popular extended length racquets usually also have a lighter weight, thicker beam, bigger head, and open string pattern all optimized for power.
o0lunatik
Professional
Generally, Yonex frames are tad muted/dead feel vs other makes, SV is more on the crisp side vs. DR and Duel G. Yonex does feel a bit stiffer than stated RA, but it's not uncomfortable. When you refer to too stiff frames that are comparable, I think of pure drives, pure aeros, super g 8, and tec ps. Those proves more health risks than SV98/+.
Yonex seems to be gaining market share here in the states now they have sponsored a few Americans. They are high quality frames and most are made in Japan and not China. Now only if those Japanese can get Fed to switch to a Yonex, like Uniglo did, Yonex would skyrocket.
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Karma Tennis
Legend
Having used Babolat, Wilson, Dunlop, Head, Tecnifibre, Donnay and Prince racquets I would beg to differ regarding the quality of the modern Yonex frames and in particular the SV range.
The paint quality of the recent SVs is shocking. The paint chips very easily. Also for some reason, the thin beamed isometric racquets are extremely fragile and can crack very easily at the 10 and 2 positions where the hoop bends. The trap doors in the butt caps have a very poor fit. The inside of the handles is hollow apart from a small foam cap. The grommets are constructed with very thin plastic and are nowhere near the quality of similar offerings from Babolat and Wilson.
Imho, given they are supposedly manufactured in Japan, they have been a huge disappointment to me. Compare to the Babolat APD racquets and the Wilson PS RF97A which are virtually bullet proof.
Sardines
Hall of Fame
I think it's 22mm... oh wait... the specs are back online on the website again! Haha
I can only say I grew to like this racquet, coming from the RF97. It's powerful enough where if I need emergency power on short strokes or flicks, it's there. Same for spin. It's a deadened feel but does most things better than most racquets I've tried for its weight and balance, while being comfortable.
Well I think the TTF is full of complaints about most every brand's imperfections and QC issues. I've suffered from Wilson flaws for years, worst of which is the QC range when it comes to weight and balance, not to mention swing weight. The SV98+, which I had 5 and now 4, 3 of which were bought separately, are within 3g of each other in weight, 304-307g, all @ 32.4-6 balance, and swing weight within 3 kg/cmˆ2 unstrung. Granted the weight distribution is in the hoop is different for each racquet, but not crazily so. Now since there is a +/- 5g with weight and I know there is a range for balance as well. So technically you can get up to 10g difference.
I've never seen even near comparable quality from Wilson. Even matched sticks (which is a must from Wilson) have a higher variance than Yonex randomly picked. I'd ordered a RF97A which was 13g off from my other matched sticks. The paint on the all black RF97 is chipping off @ the PWS. None of my SV+ have that problem. I've never had butt cap problems and I stuffed blutack and coins in there to weigh up the racquet.
I submit that the SV and DR + series are a limited run series, so it may be that it had more stringent QC.
Karma Tennis
Legend
IMO, Yonex seems to have drifted back to the pack quality wise particularly with it's SV line. The paint "looks" like standard paint of years gone by but it is of very poor quality in typical use.
Tennis racquets are very personal pieces of equipment. All racquets are produced within tolerances specified and published by the manufacturers. As long they are within the specified and published variances with regards to static weight and racquet balance there's little to complain about.
People who don't care won't know any different.
People / Players who do care, I'd expect would be smart enough to order matched products or check them prior to purchase. I'm certainly no guru when it comes to tennis racquets. I do care enough that if I buy several of the same type I take my scales and Balance board with me and test them prior to handing over money.
"Caveat Emptor" should always apply with regards to personal equipment like tennis racquets.
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kramer woodie
Professional
Nostradamus
I find the Yonex SV plus to be able to throw at the ball effortlessly. At the net, the racquet does not get pushed around. Volleys are crisp
or touch volleys are easily controllable.
As for swing weight, I played a standard length Yonex 330g Duel G for about a year plus before the SV+ came out. The Duel G had a swing of
334 according to TW. The SV+ is said to have a swing weight of 340 because of the extra 1/2 inch of length. That said, even with the 1/2
inch extra length the SV+ is 1 ounce lighter than the Duel G. Very easy to create great racquet head speed with proper strokes. More power
on groundstrokes more power on serves and more easy SPIN!
There is nothing not to like about the SV+, plays crisp with good feel, slice is sharp stays low and kicks out. Maybe it is not a racquet for
those who need flexibility, stiffness is 68, but I find it quite comfortable. I think Yonex has done a great job with this racquet, I have 3
of them.
Just heard Yonex will release an updated SV in September 2018, but no word on whether the plus model will be continued. If they don't
continue with the SV+ it will be some time until I buy an updated racquet from Yonex.
I might add I have played Yonex racquets since 1974. Today I string full poly at about 35-37 pounds and have no problem controlling the ball or making the ball jump off the court disrupting my opponents timing. I in some ways am amazed at myself, at the age of 72, I still use a 98 inch head, (I guess the SV is classified as a tweeter), but it sure makes me look good on the court even with the loss of mobility do to age. As long as I get into position to hit the ball, I can handle the pace of the 43 year old EX-PRO I hit with.
Aloha
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
SW of 340 too big. it will be too slow at net. it won't be good for doubles
kramer woodie
Professional
Nostradamus
At my age I am forced to play a lot of doubles because I just can not cover the single court for more than 4-5 shot before the lungs or legs
give out. So a lot of doubles. For me the SV+ plays just as quick at the net volleying as any racquet I have played with since 1961. I find
most try to keep the ball away from me when playing doubles, if fact I am lucky to get to hit a ball when I am at the net.
That extra 1/2 inch gives my 6'2'' height, 36" arm length more reach. I just don't understand people commenting that the extra 1/2 inch
and 340 swing weight slows them down. Maybe I don't have a problem because I played with 15.5 ounce Kramer Autographs from the 60s
to the 70s. Talk about swing weight then versus now, no comparison. 340 is light as feather by comparison.
Back in the 60s and 70s you could not get me to play doubles, the coaches tried, I refused. My game was serve and volley or attack the serve
and move to the net for a volley put away. I don't believed I hit more than 5 shots at most during a point. Thus end the point quick was my
game. So you had to learn how to volley with a 425 gram racquet weight.
The SV+ is only different from the Duel G by being 5 pts HL versus the Duel G's 7 its HL. That is not a big deal!
Aloha
jklos
Professional
I'm interested in the SV98+. I've never tried an extended length racquet so I'm a bit hesitant. Also the sw seems a bit high, 325 is usually the max I want to go and was actually looking for a faster swinging racquet than my PS97 (non CV). Willing to try it though to see, also the regular SV is of interest too. SV+ users, how is it to swing this beast? RF97 like?
Sardines
Hall of Fame
@jklos try reading these threads and searching the forum:
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/yonex-vcore-sv-98.589054
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/replacing-the-rf97a-with-the-yonex-sv98.604597
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/yonex-vcore-sv-98.589054
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/replacing-the-rf97a-with-the-yonex-sv98.604597
CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
Every RF97A racquet I see used looks beat to crap. The cheap matte rubberized coating wears terrible and the glossy paint at 3 and 9 chip easily.
Karma Tennis
Legend
I agree. But those things don't affect the actual physical playability of the racquet unless the player is affected by racquet aesthetics.
Most decent players can deal with little bits of rubberised coating and small paint chips. Small cracks in a frame that turn into large cracks is a different proposition.
The pj of a well used racquet will get a serious beating over a short space of time - especially if used on a Clay court or a Hard court.
DanS
Semi-Pro
Now there's a surprise! I mean, since you are the trend setter in the red racquet department! Kinda makes you look like a genius! lol
Karma Tennis
Legend
IMO, some reasons for that ...
-A lot of the younger and newer players on the Tour are using Yonex (eg. Shapovalov, Tiafoe AND OF COURSE Kyrgios)
-Some of the very successful players are using Yonex (eg. Wawrinka, Kerber)
-Yonex racquets tend to be slightly less expensive than the mainstream counterparts.
time_fly
Hall of Fame
A bit OT, I was happy to see that the dinky pro shop in our club just started carrying Yonex after only carrying the "big 3" (Head, Wilson, Babolat) for the longest time. Then I realized that as usual, they only carry the 100" head and "light" versions. It doesn't really affect gear fanatics like me but I wish they'd let more players experience the benefits of heavier weights, more flex, and smaller heads.
It doesn't really affect gear fanatics like me but I wish they'd let more players experience the benefits of heavier weights, more flex, and smaller heads.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Why are these beams so thin ? I thought these were power rackets ?Forget my last post, these still have the aero fins. the 95 seems to still be 16x20
http://www.yonex.com/company/news/t...-the-new-vcore-launches-from-early-september/
Vcore 95
Vcore 98
SavvyStringer
Professional
I like the bright red. I'm tempted to give yonex a shot but I can't tell where to start because their lineup seems to have a lot of overlap and similarity in the frames. Beam shapes change, but the stiffness and beam width are the same in almost all of their 98 and 100 frames across the line.
