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He had that first set in the bag...then never came back. Ugly QF performance.
Please predict somethingNah, Djokovic solid in that return game.
Sadly for Djokovic Zverev was dreadful but still took him over 2 hours. At 32, that will take recovery time, whereas Thiem, physically stronger, got off court 30 mins earlier.He had that first set in the bag...then never came back. Ugly QF performance.
AgreeHe had that first set in the bag...then never came back. Ugly QF performance.
Nah.
This one vs Nadal.
Indian Wells 2016
at 2:23
mucks up easy volley when having MP.
Sadly for Djokovic Zverev was dreadful but still took him over 2 hours. At 32, that will take recovery time, whereas Thiem, physically stronger, got off court 30 mins earlier.
Thiem favourite for the event now.
Thiem has been really impressive.
50/50 with Novak.
80/20 Nadal against Fed
Don't be too harsh on Zverev.
He's now up to winning 9 games in a slam quarter-final, up from winning 7 games last year.
At this rate, he will finally win a slam quarter-final in about 5 years' time.
Sadly for Djokovic Zverev was dreadful but still took him over 2 hours. At 32, that will take recovery time, whereas Thiem, physically stronger, got off court 30 mins earlier.
Thiem favourite for the event now.
LOL the women regularly play for 2 hours and come back for another match next day.
Djokovic said he was tired in Rome? his SF was 2hrs wasn't it? a 3 setter. like todayLOL the women regularly play for 2 hours and come back for another match next day.
Djokovic said he was tired in Rome? his SF was 2hrs wasn't it? a 3 setter. like today
But that was the effect of playing three days in a row. He was fine in the semis despite the long quarterfinal. So he should be fine tomorrow. He will need Saturday for recovery, certainly.
And this is what separates Zverev from someone like Rafa. Zverev gets broken serving for the set and then just totally collapses and gets steamrolled. Nadal could be down two sets to love and he still fights, still shows positive body language and almost never gives up. There's just no excuse for this type of panty-waist mentality in the young players. At this point, I really think the big 3 can be winning slams at age 40 because the young guys just cannot step up.He had that first set in the bag...then never came back. Ugly QF performance.
Case in point, Genie Bouchard.And this is what separates Zverev from someone like Rafa. Zverev gets broken serving for the set and then just totally collapses and gets steamrolled. Nadal could be down two sets to love and he still fights, still shows positive body language and almost never gives up. There's just no excuse for this type of panty-waist mentality in the young players. At this point, I really think the big 3 can be winning slams at age 40 because the young guys just cannot step up.
Lendl was saying during the AO he thinks it's because of phones and young players addictions to phones and social media. They have no attention span and no ability to think through a long match.
It is impossible to quantify "biggest" choke with Zed. It would be easier to list the important matches where he didn't embarrass his family.He had that first set in the bag...then never came back. Ugly QF performance.
Looks like Thiem v Djokovic may finish on Saturday. Nadal and Federer have massive advantage. Weather post 3pm tomorrow in paris is supposed to be woefulBut that was the effect of playing three days in a row. He was fine in the semis despite the long quarterfinal. So he should be fine tomorrow. He will need Saturday for recovery, certainly.
You know Nadal Federer and Djokovic must be thinking like you. Everyone bangs on about Next Gen yet every Major these 3 or there or there abouts. Thiem (on clay) and Tsitispas seem only two remotely capable of challenging. Even that is a long shot.And this is what separates Zverev from someone like Rafa. Zverev gets broken serving for the set and then just totally collapses and gets steamrolled. Nadal could be down two sets to love and he still fights, still shows positive body language and almost never gives up. There's just no excuse for this type of panty-waist mentality in the young players. At this point, I really think the big 3 can be winning slams at age 40 because the young guys just cannot step up.
Lendl was saying during the AO he thinks it's because of phones and young players addictions to phones and social media. They have no attention span and no ability to think through a long match.
He made Djokovic look like Stefan Edberg out there todayZverev's brutal volleying and drop shot. He shouldn't try those at all
Sadly for Djokovic Zverev was dreadful but still took him over 2 hours. At 32, that will take recovery time, whereas Thiem, physically stronger, got off court 30 mins earlier.
Thiem favourite for the event now.
He made Djokovic look like Stefan Edberg out there today
Looks like Thiem v Djokovic may finish on Saturday. Nadal and Federer have massive advantage. Weather post 3pm tomorrow in paris is supposed to be woeful
Don't be too harsh on Zverev.
He's now up to winning 9 games in a slam quarter-final, up from winning 7 games last year.
At this rate, he will finally win a slam quarter-final in about 5 years' time.
So bcs of those extra 30 minutes, not 90, not 2 or 3 hours, but 30 minutes, Thiem is favorite ?Nole had to spend an extra 30 mins on court, with less than 24 hours recovery time and being in his 30's against the fittest guy on tour, I think that is going to be crucial.
Federer has more than 20 percent IF he serves volleys constantly as Edberg beat Muster on clay using that tactic and Nadal stands so far back on return it amazes me nobody employs it
And then how long until he wins a slam semifinal
15 years?
Choked the first set, sure but plenty of people have lost a set while serving for the set. His pitiful Sets 2 and 3 show me that he was probably going to lose in 4 even if he won the first set.
I missed it. What happened in the first set? Did Nole earn the break or was it gifted?He had that first set in the bag...then never came back. Ugly QF performance.
I missed it. What happened in the first set? Did Nole earn the break or was it gifted?
Maybe, but I don't trust someone whose entire confidence and play hinges on the result of a first set.Difficult to say. If he had closed out that 1st set it may well have boosted his confidence to keep up his level for the remainder of the match. Failing to close it out probably punctured his already fragile confidence.
Right on time to reach his peak at the tender age of 37.And then how long until he wins a slam semifinal
15 years?
We have to remember that Djoker at his best is pretty devastating...There was probably not a lot Zverev could do about it.
Nah, Djokovic solid in that return game.
And this is what separates Zverev from someone like Rafa. Zverev gets broken serving for the set and then just totally collapses and gets steamrolled. Nadal could be down two sets to love and he still fights, still shows positive body language and almost never gives up. There's just no excuse for this type of panty-waist mentality in the young players. At this point, I really think the big 3 can be winning slams at age 40 because the young guys just cannot step up.
Lendl was saying during the AO he thinks it's because of phones and young players addictions to phones and social media. They have no attention span and no ability to think through a long match.
30-all: Long rally. Z hits crappy drop shot, Djok hits what should be a winner right to his forehand, which goes weakly into the bottom of the net.
I think he went away from what was successful. Also he didnt put in the fight, and gave too many soft points away therefore releasing pressure. Has the game but not the brain or maybe the heartHe had that first set in the bag...then never came back. Ugly QF performance.
If Im thinking of the right point, Zverev had every chance to make the pass, but played a very tentative push, halfway up the net at best.