t-swede, I think the Pro Tours FT's are great frames. When I first got these, I didn't like the thicker beam, but they play well and despite their length, you don't really notice the extra. I decided to stop playing with them shortly after trying the m comp, I was just using them for doubles anyway, and I think now I'll play dubs with the mspeed 98, singles w/ the mcomp. Anyway, I thought they have a nice feel, not as soft as the magnetic frames, but still buttery. Man, could I ever serve some bombs with that thing........ I hate to get rid of them but I've got 17 frames right now and I can only play with one at a time (they didn't change the rule did they???)
The Fischer Faction!
- Thread starter Djokovicfan4life
- Start date
Peter Szucs
Semi-Pro
I am looking for a NO Tolerance 105 but in SL version... does this racq exist? I see the UL version but no luck in finding the heavier version yet...
For 1012007 and anyone interested,
Just thought I'd post up what I believe to be my specs (basically I'm not 100 per cent sure but this is what I think it is):
Fischer Pro Number 1 (320, red & black)
HS: 98... W: 12oz/340g (strung)... BAL: 9pts h/light... SW: 311... STIFF: 60... BEAM W: 20-25mm... STRING PAT: 16x20...
Er, does that sound correct to other Pro No 1'ers (320)?
Just thought I'd post up what I believe to be my specs (basically I'm not 100 per cent sure but this is what I think it is):
Fischer Pro Number 1 (320, red & black)
HS: 98... W: 12oz/340g (strung)... BAL: 9pts h/light... SW: 311... STIFF: 60... BEAM W: 20-25mm... STRING PAT: 16x20...
Er, does that sound correct to other Pro No 1'ers (320)?
nickb
Banned
Yeah... and that accounts (in part) for my reluctance this morning to strip off the lead. As I said, I'm used to big, heavy, high SW frames (which of course I want to get away from these because I want frames that swing faster), however, it will obviously take a while to get used to the change... in other words, the lead that's presently on the frame has raised the SW (and helped me with serve power), but to keep those groundies in I'll need to take it off probably... or some of it... decisions eh? (sorry to bore everyone!)
PackardDell
Semi-Pro
Peter Szucs
Semi-Pro
your right, its not there. just like the old green-red version of 105 was only shown in UL before and yet they made both UL and SL, i think they are not very good in updating it. but anyway i guess the website is just right this time.
nickb
Banned
Hi Ross,
I have mine set up with no lead, 18g strings and bare leather grips right now. I only played them with lead for a few weeks. Any weight on the head and I just cant use them...the SW is pushed too high. The point of the racket for me is stability and power without a heavy SW....the 18g string brings the SW down and the leather grips add a little more mass to the handle...they are perfect right now. I think now you have used it with the lead on you should try it without...you can always put it back on again.
Nick
t-swede
Semi-Pro
fischer m speed 105
peter why dont you just stick with the red and green pj , as far as i know its the same racket just with uppdated cosmetics so you can get two for the price of one ?
to me thats a win-win situation right ?
the swede
peter why dont you just stick with the red and green pj , as far as i know its the same racket just with uppdated cosmetics so you can get two for the price of one ?
to me thats a win-win situation right ?
the swede
Peter Szucs
Semi-Pro
you are right... i actually had three of the red/green version but sold them a while ago to a good friend who had tennis elbow from his old wilsons... i loved them and i still have good memories about them and to be honest i have had no luck in finding a frame that i would have liked that much yet... after trying so many frames i decided to go back to them... so i just actually like the grip shape of the new version better but after talking to the local fischer rep the no tol 105 is only available in ul so i only have to make one last decision: no tol 98 SL or red/green 105 SL.... btw if anyone knows where i can buy the old green-red in Europe on discounted price pls let me know... would appreciate it.
I just demoed the Magnetic Tour SL and have demoed the 98 SL and the Magnetic is the identical weight of the 98 SL. The head size is 100 so the sweet spot is a touch bigger, but both play very similar.
Peter Szucs
Semi-Pro
thanks Deck, i tried it a while ago and felt it was too headlight for my game. btw its a great frame i agree but to me the pro no 1 works better.
PackardDell
Semi-Pro
Some questions about the M Pro 98 (SL)
1. How easily do you kill strings with it. It has 16 mains however i would expect the 8 strings in the bridge (so dense in the center) & the 20 horz to compensate for it
2. This stick is well known for its heavy spin generation however does this hold for an eastern forehand grip too?
1. How easily do you kill strings with it. It has 16 mains however i would expect the 8 strings in the bridge (so dense in the center) & the 20 horz to compensate for it
2. This stick is well known for its heavy spin generation however does this hold for an eastern forehand grip too?
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Almost 30 members now!
Members list:
1. Djokovicfan4life: Founder of the Fischer Faction
2. astra: A man of few words
3. Ross K: Likes the name that I stole from another thread
4. fuhzball: Left his VS/poly hybrid for Gosen micro 18
5. NickB: Doesn't like to make decisions
6. Craig Sheppard: Long-time Fischer user
7. ndtennis: Fischer fanboy
8. cpmoran: Another fellow M pro SL user
9. 1012007: Leads up his Fischers
10. Crazyups: Says his racquet is over 12 pounds!
11. vsdtrek: 7 months and counting with his beloved Fischers
12: Racquet Junkie: Prefers a poly/syn. gut hybrid
13. nickynu: Wants a review of the Fischer vacuum pro
14. Daveyboy: Loves everything in the Fischer lineup
15. Austro: Wants a new M pro but can't find the right grip
16. 007: Thinks he's James Bond
17. Latinking: Fischer all the way!
18. Downey Stringing Master: Likes the old vacuum 90's
19. jorel: Likes to bomb serves with his Fischer's
20. packer fan: Another M pro user
21. jasonchu: Mcomp95 babee
22. Slaz: Uses my favorite racquet
23. Mardy Fish: Fischer Pro Tour Ft. user
24. t-swede: likes 105 sq. inch racquets
25. fischernut: a very secretive poster
26. amcgula: I feel sorry for his arm
27. Deck: His tennis is better than his reading skills
28. kookie411: Drakulie already beat him to this joke, no special treatment allowed in the faction!
29. Peter Szucs: Did the right thing by choosing the M pro no. 1
Members list:
1. Djokovicfan4life: Founder of the Fischer Faction
2. astra: A man of few words
3. Ross K: Likes the name that I stole from another thread
4. fuhzball: Left his VS/poly hybrid for Gosen micro 18
5. NickB: Doesn't like to make decisions
6. Craig Sheppard: Long-time Fischer user
7. ndtennis: Fischer fanboy
8. cpmoran: Another fellow M pro SL user
9. 1012007: Leads up his Fischers
10. Crazyups: Says his racquet is over 12 pounds!
11. vsdtrek: 7 months and counting with his beloved Fischers
12: Racquet Junkie: Prefers a poly/syn. gut hybrid
13. nickynu: Wants a review of the Fischer vacuum pro
14. Daveyboy: Loves everything in the Fischer lineup
15. Austro: Wants a new M pro but can't find the right grip
16. 007: Thinks he's James Bond
17. Latinking: Fischer all the way!
18. Downey Stringing Master: Likes the old vacuum 90's
19. jorel: Likes to bomb serves with his Fischer's
20. packer fan: Another M pro user
21. jasonchu: Mcomp95 babee
22. Slaz: Uses my favorite racquet
23. Mardy Fish: Fischer Pro Tour Ft. user
24. t-swede: likes 105 sq. inch racquets
25. fischernut: a very secretive poster
26. amcgula: I feel sorry for his arm
27. Deck: His tennis is better than his reading skills
28. kookie411: Drakulie already beat him to this joke, no special treatment allowed in the faction!
29. Peter Szucs: Did the right thing by choosing the M pro no. 1
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Throw me on the list my Magnetic Tour SL arrived today!
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Ummmmmmmmm, #27? :wink:
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
I strung my last job at 60 lbs and it still feels nice after a month or so. It took a couple hours for it to break in though. I don't hit that hard, so take my advice with a grain of salt. I tried 55 lbs before, but it got too loose for my taste, after a few weeks it felt like a cannon!
more pro no 1 thoughts
Well, despite the, er, 'advances' of 1 or 2 different frames in the last few days, I had another very positive experience this afternoon with the new racquet... I think it's surely a matter of time before my signature states 'Fischer Pro No. 1 (320, red & black)'... Anyway, today I got into a bit of a groove (for once), and won, I think it was, 6-0, 6-2, 6-3... all right, my opponent wasn't exactly Novak Djokovic (and neither am I for that matter... more like his Granny probably!
) - anyway, I regained some basic form this afternoon, and instrumental in that was the new frame...
Some further random thoughts on the Pro No 1:
. great pop... this really struck me today, and especially as I'd removed a lot of lead and was concerned with this aspect. There was no need... stock weight this frame has a lovely power level. Serves were dynamic and had enough oomph. Groundies, ditto. Combined with it's excellent control and precision, it's a real pleasure to hit out with this stick... and that's forgetting to name-check something else that's intrinsic to understanding this rod...
. the feel... Fischer's have a special reputation for feel and feedback and responsiveness, etc, and it's a reputation that I now fully understand. Put it this way, yesterday I wanted to hit with a different frame, specifically a frame that I felt was pretty similar to my Pro No 1... So out of nearly 20 or so racquets the one I opted for - and the rod that reminded me of the Pro No 1 - was... my old PT630.
. manouverability... unlike with my last main frame (PSC 6.1), and several other higher SW, higher static weight, or slightly head heavier racquets I've used before, this is doing exactly what I wanted: low pick ups, last milli-second wrist turns, serving fluidly, etc; basically, my mobility levels have seriously improved... as is backed up by my UE count which has RADICALLY gone down all of a sudden.
. All courter rod... as I've said before, this 320 version of the Pro No 1 really suits this kind of game IMO. It's certainly got me coming in more (and trying some of that 'up in the air stuff'!), but equally, I'm very comfortable indeed with this from the b-line (which is what I'm used to.)
Finally, I'd add this... For me, this frame can do everything very well indeed AND it feels bloody fantastic!
BTW, Respect due to Nick for great string job with the hybrid - I really noticed and liked how it was performing today... bite, power, feel - very tasty indeed.
Well, despite the, er, 'advances' of 1 or 2 different frames in the last few days, I had another very positive experience this afternoon with the new racquet... I think it's surely a matter of time before my signature states 'Fischer Pro No. 1 (320, red & black)'... Anyway, today I got into a bit of a groove (for once), and won, I think it was, 6-0, 6-2, 6-3... all right, my opponent wasn't exactly Novak Djokovic (and neither am I for that matter... more like his Granny probably!
) - anyway, I regained some basic form this afternoon, and instrumental in that was the new frame... Some further random thoughts on the Pro No 1:
. great pop... this really struck me today, and especially as I'd removed a lot of lead and was concerned with this aspect. There was no need... stock weight this frame has a lovely power level. Serves were dynamic and had enough oomph. Groundies, ditto. Combined with it's excellent control and precision, it's a real pleasure to hit out with this stick... and that's forgetting to name-check something else that's intrinsic to understanding this rod...
. the feel... Fischer's have a special reputation for feel and feedback and responsiveness, etc, and it's a reputation that I now fully understand. Put it this way, yesterday I wanted to hit with a different frame, specifically a frame that I felt was pretty similar to my Pro No 1... So out of nearly 20 or so racquets the one I opted for - and the rod that reminded me of the Pro No 1 - was... my old PT630.
. manouverability... unlike with my last main frame (PSC 6.1), and several other higher SW, higher static weight, or slightly head heavier racquets I've used before, this is doing exactly what I wanted: low pick ups, last milli-second wrist turns, serving fluidly, etc; basically, my mobility levels have seriously improved... as is backed up by my UE count which has RADICALLY gone down all of a sudden.
. All courter rod... as I've said before, this 320 version of the Pro No 1 really suits this kind of game IMO. It's certainly got me coming in more (and trying some of that 'up in the air stuff'!), but equally, I'm very comfortable indeed with this from the b-line (which is what I'm used to.)
Finally, I'd add this... For me, this frame can do everything very well indeed AND it feels bloody fantastic!
BTW, Respect due to Nick for great string job with the hybrid - I really noticed and liked how it was performing today... bite, power, feel - very tasty indeed.
0d1n
Hall of Fame
Peter, I know a couple of online shops who have the older MSpeeds @ 75-79 euros. Tried emailing you through your profile but I can't do it ... you have that option disabled.
One of those retailers ships for free for orders of over 200 euros so you might consider buying 3 of those MSpeeds and you would get them home for free
.Peter Szucs
Semi-Pro
Peter, I know a couple of online shops who have the older MSpeeds @ 75-79 euros. Tried emailing you through your profile but I can't do it ... you have that option disabled.
One of those retailers ships for free for orders of over 200 euros so you might consider buying 3 of those MSpeeds and you would get them home for free
Hi 0d1n... appreciate your efforts... i am waiting for your email.. thanks again!
szucspe@freemail.hu
0d1n
Hall of Fame
No probs...just sent you an email.
more re the fisher pro no 1
This afternoon I played a good player (for my level - 3.5 - 4.0) and had what was really just my 2nd or 3rd proper match with the Pro No 1. I'll stop with the detailed reports - (I think ppl have a good idea now of the kind of frame the red and black Pro No 1 is) - and just say this:
. fh going long... this was happening too much for my liking and has got me wondering about technique issues... there's no lead anymore?... this isn't a bloody PDR?!... I must be doing something wrong!
. loopy groundies... as well as hitting long a bit too much, I also seem to be regularly hitting a loopy groundstroke... again - I must be doing something wrong!
. call me Pete Sampras (not)!... Holy ship, my desire to get off that b-line and go more all court has certainly started to occur!... Chris (my opponent) said he'd never seen me come to the net so much ever before (it must have been about 4 times at least... lol!)... No, I was coming in loads more (and getting passed a lot) and was fairly succesfull with a few dropshots and some touch stuff... Basically I'm really saying (again) how good this frame is for that type of play as well as from the b-line.
. mobility and manouverability... I've got so much more going on with this frame it's untrue... just call me Ross Hewitt!... call me bloody Road Runner!...
Anyway, I'll call it a day here... I do need to do some work in the upcoming weeks I think and get that fh firing properly... (and btw, that'll be the player though not the frame)... and, oh yeah!.. ahem... I lost the match...
This afternoon I played a good player (for my level - 3.5 - 4.0) and had what was really just my 2nd or 3rd proper match with the Pro No 1. I'll stop with the detailed reports - (I think ppl have a good idea now of the kind of frame the red and black Pro No 1 is) - and just say this:
. fh going long... this was happening too much for my liking and has got me wondering about technique issues... there's no lead anymore?... this isn't a bloody PDR?!... I must be doing something wrong!
. loopy groundies... as well as hitting long a bit too much, I also seem to be regularly hitting a loopy groundstroke... again - I must be doing something wrong!
. call me Pete Sampras (not)!... Holy ship, my desire to get off that b-line and go more all court has certainly started to occur!... Chris (my opponent) said he'd never seen me come to the net so much ever before (it must have been about 4 times at least... lol!)... No, I was coming in loads more (and getting passed a lot) and was fairly succesfull with a few dropshots and some touch stuff... Basically I'm really saying (again) how good this frame is for that type of play as well as from the b-line.
. mobility and manouverability... I've got so much more going on with this frame it's untrue... just call me Ross Hewitt!... call me bloody Road Runner!...
Anyway, I'll call it a day here... I do need to do some work in the upcoming weeks I think and get that fh firing properly... (and btw, that'll be the player though not the frame)... and, oh yeah!.. ahem... I lost the match...
PackardDell
Semi-Pro
PackardDell
Semi-Pro
looks gorgeous
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0d1n
Hall of Fame
1. The durability of the strings in this frame is exactly as you would expect it. More (much more) than a 16x18 95 or 16x19 98...but a bit less than a Prestige / Radical (18x20). It's actually my preferred string pattern...because it gives you a VERY consistent string bed (a la 18x20), but helps a bit with spin as well.
2. The racket is very spin friendly in my book ... due to low swing weight, head light balance and flexibility.
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
I find it ironic that Djokovicfan4life uses a Fischer instead of a Wilson
What can I say, Fischers just feel right!
Most people say that his Wilson is basically a Head Radical anyway.
Baseline13
Rookie
Fisher Club
3x MPro SL TF NRG 53 on one frame and Big Hitter Blue mains and Gut crosses other 2. Love the frame....Great on my arm.
3x MPro SL TF NRG 53 on one frame and Big Hitter Blue mains and Gut crosses other 2. Love the frame....Great on my arm.
Baseline13
Rookie
Fisher Club
3x M Speed SL TF NRG 53 on one frame and Big Hitter Blue mains and Gut crosses other 2. Love the frame....Great on my arm.
3x M Speed SL TF NRG 53 on one frame and Big Hitter Blue mains and Gut crosses other 2. Love the frame....Great on my arm.
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Members list:
1. Djokovicfan4life: Founder of the Fischer Faction
2. astra: A man of few words
3. Ross K: Likes the name that I stole from another thread
4. fuhzball: Left his VS/poly hybrid for Gosen micro 18
5. NickB: Doesn't like to make decisions
6. Craig Sheppard: Long-time Fischer user
7. ndtennis: Fischer fanboy
8. cpmoran: Another fellow M pro SL user
9. 1012007: Leads up his Fischers
10. Crazyups: Says his racquet is over 12 pounds!
11. vsdtrek: 7 months and counting with his beloved Fischers
12: Racquet Junkie: Prefers a poly/syn. gut hybrid
13. nickynu: Wants a review of the Fischer vacuum pro
14. Daveyboy: Loves everything in the Fischer lineup
15. Austro: Wants a new M pro but can't find the right grip
16. 007: Thinks he's James Bond
17. Latinking: Fischer all the way!
18. Downey Stringing Master: Likes the old vacuum 90's
19. jorel: Likes to bomb serves with his Fischer's
20. packer fan: Another M pro user
21. jasonchu: Mcomp95 babee
22. Slaz: Uses my favorite racquet
23. Mardy Fish: Fischer Pro Tour Ft. user
24. t-swede: likes 105 sq. inch racquets
25. fischernut: a very secretive poster
26. amcgula: I feel sorry for his arm
27. Deck: His tennis is better than his reading skills
28. kookie411: Drakulie already beat him to this joke, no special treatment allowed in the faction!
29. Peter Szucs: Did the right thing by choosing the M pro no. 1
30. Baseline13: Can't spell Fischer
31. vegasgt3: Another fellow VS user
32. sargeinaz: Making the switch to Fischer
33. Rocket54: Loves the Vacuum Pro
34. dan_the_man: Likes the feel of his M pros
35. DC Tennis Fan: Added a little weight to his frames
36. federer envies me: Not really, but he envies his Fischers
37. stew006: Loves the precision of the M Pro
1. Djokovicfan4life: Founder of the Fischer Faction
2. astra: A man of few words
3. Ross K: Likes the name that I stole from another thread
4. fuhzball: Left his VS/poly hybrid for Gosen micro 18
5. NickB: Doesn't like to make decisions
6. Craig Sheppard: Long-time Fischer user
7. ndtennis: Fischer fanboy
8. cpmoran: Another fellow M pro SL user
9. 1012007: Leads up his Fischers
10. Crazyups: Says his racquet is over 12 pounds!
11. vsdtrek: 7 months and counting with his beloved Fischers
12: Racquet Junkie: Prefers a poly/syn. gut hybrid
13. nickynu: Wants a review of the Fischer vacuum pro
14. Daveyboy: Loves everything in the Fischer lineup
15. Austro: Wants a new M pro but can't find the right grip
16. 007: Thinks he's James Bond
17. Latinking: Fischer all the way!
18. Downey Stringing Master: Likes the old vacuum 90's
19. jorel: Likes to bomb serves with his Fischer's
20. packer fan: Another M pro user
21. jasonchu: Mcomp95 babee
22. Slaz: Uses my favorite racquet
23. Mardy Fish: Fischer Pro Tour Ft. user
24. t-swede: likes 105 sq. inch racquets
25. fischernut: a very secretive poster
26. amcgula: I feel sorry for his arm
27. Deck: His tennis is better than his reading skills
28. kookie411: Drakulie already beat him to this joke, no special treatment allowed in the faction!
29. Peter Szucs: Did the right thing by choosing the M pro no. 1
30. Baseline13: Can't spell Fischer
31. vegasgt3: Another fellow VS user
32. sargeinaz: Making the switch to Fischer
33. Rocket54: Loves the Vacuum Pro
34. dan_the_man: Likes the feel of his M pros
35. DC Tennis Fan: Added a little weight to his frames
36. federer envies me: Not really, but he envies his Fischers
37. stew006: Loves the precision of the M Pro
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1012007
Hall of Fame
0d1n
Hall of Fame
There's only one from the "90's" in there ... but here you go...
http://i10.tinypic.com/63r2tes.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/4ue09rk.jpg
AAAA
Hall of Fame
If you insist. The blue and green one are definately 90s. The Pro #1 was maybe about 2002
top-bottom : Pro #1, 2 Pro Classic 90", Pro Comp 95"
A Fischer VPro Spin 98" Vacuum Technik
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racquetjunkie
Rookie
had an affair with a pair of Wilson k6.1 95s.... not working out... Happy to be back with my trusted M Pro. 1s
Baseline13
Rookie
Djok....Not that I cant spell....to lazy to type the whole name.....IE: the beginning of this post.........
0d1n
Hall of Fame
They play like comfortable, very maneuverable - yet still very solid, low power, high control, great feel, good spin, flexible rackets
.
nickb
Banned
Its 45-65 ...mid tension of 55 which is normal.
sargeinaz
Hall of Fame
So I just demoed the new M Pro One SL No Tolerance because I have realized that my N95 is just too heavy for me. I have to say that I love this racket so far. It is a very nice weight, very manueverable, cuts through the air very easily, is nice for either a 1 or 2 handed backhand (neither of my backhands are great), is lovely for volleys, is comfortable and has nice pop (I dont think it is as low powered as some people say it is). Well I have another week to hit with it and if this keeps up, it will shortly become my main stick so I can focus on my game. Now I know why Fischer guys love their sticks.
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Steroid rehab forum
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dan_the_man
New User
Sign me up! 2x M-Speed Pro #1 SL. Easy on the arm. Great feel, great stringbed. Good for 1hbh or 2hbh.
dan_the_man
dan_the_man
crism54
Semi-Pro
some questions please:
1- on the version magnetic red/green, removed the butt cap, the inside of the handle where the pallets are applied, is empty or full?
2-can you measure me the width of the oval of the racket internally ( without the frame) in the 3/9 o'clock , a t the point of maximum width?
3- is it true that in the plastics of the handle, when the racket is new, there is written the exact weight of that model and the balane point?
thanks,
1- on the version magnetic red/green, removed the butt cap, the inside of the handle where the pallets are applied, is empty or full?
2-can you measure me the width of the oval of the racket internally ( without the frame) in the 3/9 o'clock , a t the point of maximum width?
3- is it true that in the plastics of the handle, when the racket is new, there is written the exact weight of that model and the balane point?
thanks,
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