Head Pro Tour 280/630

Deuce

Banned
To the outside of the frame.

The stringbed is closer to 615 sq. cm. or 95 sq. in... the same as the HEAD Radical Mid+.
I agree that there is no difference between a 95 sq. in. racquet and Head's supposed 98 sq. in. racquets. But please don't start with that "measuring the inside of the frame / measuring the outside of the frame" stuff.

That Head calls it 98 sq. in. is much more likely a marketing strategy than anything else.
Just like the Prestige Mids, which Head claims are 93 sq. in., but are really 89.5 sq. in.
It's all about marketing.
 

pham4313

Professional
anyone has problems with squeaky grips? especially the buttcap joint where it meets the handle. Both two of mine squeak pretty bad. Wonder if i just have to unwrap the handle and re-staple it. What would you do?
 

Vik

Rookie
I have an asian version that has a squeaky handle. I keep expecting the end to break off in my hand on a big return, but hasn't yet:)
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
I agree that there is no difference between a 95 sq. in. racquet and Head's supposed 98 sq. in. racquets. But please don't start with that "measuring the inside of the frame / measuring the outside of the frame" stuff.

That Head calls it 98 sq. in. is much more likely a marketing strategy than anything else.
Just like the Prestige Mids, which Head claims are 93 sq. in., but are really 89.5 sq. in.
It's all about marketing.

So, you don't really know if it's marketing or not. Do you know for a fact it's not the measuring technique that accounts for the discrepancy?
 

StunLock

Semi-Pro
Head DOES NOT (or NO ONE for that matter) measure frames from outside. If they did, then a Head-labeled 98 frame would have been a MiD measured inside. This can be proven easily with math.
 

jace112

Semi-Pro
Head DOES NOT (or NO ONE for that matter) measure frames from outside. If they did, then a Head-labeled 98 frame would have been a MiD measured inside. This can be proven easily with math.
pics comparing a 95 in² from wilson to a 98 in2 from head easily prove that you are wrong
 

StunLock

Semi-Pro
pics comparing a 95 in² from wilson to a 98 in2 from head easily prove that you are wrong

what do those pics show? they show wilson's 95 is comparable (if not identical) to head's 98, dont they? Then how does that prove me wrong??

I would be proven wrong if you can show me a pic where a Head 98 frame inside mathces a Wilson's 95 frame outside, which you never can.
 

jace112

Semi-Pro
what do those pics show? they show wilson's 95 is comparable (if not identical) to head's 98, dont they? Then how does that prove me wrong??
I would be proven wrong if you can show me a pic where a Head 98 frame inside mathces a Wilson's 95 frame outside, which you never can.
You are right, I misread your quote. I've taken some pics comparing my Pro Tour 630 to a 95 in² Pro Staff...
Sorry :cry:
 

Deuce

Banned
So, you don't really know if it's marketing or not. Do you know for a fact it's not the measuring technique that accounts for the discrepancy?
Well, YOU'RE the one who stated your claim as fact... whereas I'M the one who wrote "it is much more likely that it's a marketing strategy".

As far as I'm concerned, this 'Head measures the outside of the frame' claim makes far less sense than it being a marketing decision.
Besides - when you do the math, your claim simply doesn't add up - a 3 sq. in. difference between the outside and the inside of the frame in both the Prestige Mids and the various MidPluses? I don't think that's possible.

The claim that Head measures the outside of the frame is in my opinion nothing more than a simpleton, untrue rumor perpetuated by this message board.

just wondering how do you guys deal with squeaky grip? If it happens to anyone?:)
Take the staples out, take the butt cap off, put some silicone in the butt cap, re-attach the butt cap, wait 24 for it to dry properly, hit the courts.
 
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