Nadal and Nole have played 54 matches for a total of 139 hours and 09 minutes
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Tennis_Hands
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Nadal_Django
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The greatest rivalry ever.
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Have to say I find the Federer-Nadal rivalry more exciting, though.
MichaelNadal
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That was the peak of tennis. (This generation) Everyone was watching and there was a magical feel. Im still invested of course, but that was like the attitude era in comparison. (06-09)
Luka888
Professional
As much as I love Fed I disagree with you. It was pretty much one sided. Rafa hitting to Fed's BH to no end and winning most of the matches. I'm talking about the time when Fed was in his prime. Rafa too. The media created that fantasy rivalry when there were only big 2 and that is fine with me. That is not the case any more. Too many people live in the past or shall I say 'they are nostalgic'.
Djokovic vs. Nadal just has not been that predictable plus they played so many more matches.
I Am Finnish
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With other words: 8348 minutes (5 days, 19 hours & 8 minutes) According to my calculations
on average about 154 minutes per match
on average about 154 minutes per match
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Have to dissagree with both.As much as I love Fed I disagree with you. It was pretty much one sided. Rafa hitting to Fed's BH to no end and winning most of the matches. I'm talking about the time when Fed was in his prime. Rafa too. The media created that fantasy rivalry when there were only big 2 and that is fine with me. That is not the case any more. Too many people live in the past or shall I say 'they are nostalgic'.
Djokovic vs. Nadal just has not been that predictable plus they played so many more matches.
For me, both the Nadal-Federer and the Nadal-Djokovic rivalries are equally special, just different.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
From 2013 Beijing to 2016 Rome, Djokovic won 11/12 matches vs Nadal and 10 of those were in straight sets. That's never happened in the Fedal rivalry. Talk about boring. It was pretty good before that I guess.As much as I love Fed I disagree with you. It was pretty much one sided. Rafa hitting to Fed's BH to no end and winning most of the matches. I'm talking about the time when Fed was in his prime. Rafa too. The media created that fantasy rivalry when there were only big 2 and that is fine with me. That is not the case any more. Too many people live in the past or shall I say 'they are nostalgic'.
Djokovic vs. Nadal just has not been that predictable plus they played so many more matches.
titoelcolombiano
Legend
The greatest rivalry ever.
Naturally, they are the greatest two players ever
Grampa
Semi-Pro
Obviously, duh. Federer is not human.
duaneeo
Legend
on average about 154 minutes per match
Subject at least 45 minutes per match for the ball bouncing.
Lleytonstation
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RaulRamirez
Legend
To be honest, the number of hours almost seems less than 54 head-to-head matches. Just think about all the anticipation before their meetings and all the analysis afterward. 54 matches with, presumably, more to come is - of course - the most of any rivalry in the OE. A case can be made for any of the Big 3 rivalries being the best or most exciting, and I do understand that "Fedal" had a certain magic to it.
Luka888
Professional
I can go with that by the way.
I was just talking if 'I had to pick one rivalry' that IMO is better. That's all
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Exactly. Plus tennis was just "bigger" 10 years ago.
Subway Tennis
Legend
If that's how long they've spent on court against each other, imagine the cumulative time we've all spent arguing about them lol.
As a Nadal fan, I know Djokovic has had the inside running for a while, but secretly I hope Nadal can turn the table one more time.
Nadal vs Federer was an incredible curtain raiser, and Djokovic vs Nadal is the Men's rivalry that the defines the slow court era (imo).
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Yes, it was. It was special. It was Pete and Andre growing up and I didn't think anyone would come close to them so quickly. Federer and Nadal saved tennis. During that time you knew you were watching the two best players ever. I remember people talking about Federer and Nadal that never talked about tennis.
I was bored and looked at some of their match scores and h2h to compare to Djokodal. It's a massive difference.
Djokodal - 35/54 matches decided in straight sets (64%) and a total of 3 five setters out of all those matches.
Fedal - 17/38 matches decided in straights (44%) and a total of 6 five setters overall.
-That explains why it always felt like a better rivalry because it WAS.
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OhYes
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Bcs its like rock-paper-scissors: Rafa owns Fed, Nole owns Rafa. How can you like rivalry where someone beats your fav on regular basis.
For me, I like both. Didn't like rivalry with Murray tbh.
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Deleted member 743561
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It’s been over half a decade since Nadal beat Federer.Bcs its like rock-paper-scissors: Rafa owns Fed, Nole owns Rafa. How can you like rivalry where someone beats your fav on regular basis.
For me, I like both. Didn't like rivalry with Murray tbh.
Epic defeat at AO, and four straight resounding L’s subsequent to that.
You ok?
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OhYes
Guest
Are you ok ? So peak Fed was lousy against peak Nadal but now it is shown how it should really works
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Yeah it was like Hogan vs Savage
Shawn vs Taker
Not a knock on Nole at all, Lord knows I love me some Djokodal matches and Wimby 18 is a perfect example of epicness. But it's impossible to deny how big tennis was around Wimbledon 2008. It may never reach those heights again and it's sad. (The WTA also).
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Djokodal have had some amazing matches. They just aren't as frequent. Fedovic was my favorite for a few years even though Fed wasn't quite as good as he once was. It was satisfying to see Djokovic get ticked off when Fed was putting a whooping on himYeah it was like Hogan vs Savage
Shawn vs Taker
Not a knock on Nole at all, Lord knows I love me some Djokodal matches and Wimby 18 is a perfect example of epicness. But it's impossible to deny how big tennis was around Wimbledon 2008. It may never reach those heights again and it's sad. (The WTA also).
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OhYes
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It is not a knock at Nole. We all know there was Fedal rivalry before Nole won his first GS. People were excited someone so young can stand up to already proclaimed goat at those times. It was good for tennis really.Yeah it was like Hogan vs Savage
Shawn vs Taker
Not a knock on Nole at all, Lord knows I love me some Djokodal matches and Wimby 18 is a perfect example of epicness. But it's impossible to deny how big tennis was around Wimbledon 2008. It may never reach those heights again and it's sad. (The WTA also).
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Djokodal have had some amazing matches. They just aren't as frequent. Fedovic was my favorite for a few years even though Fed wasn't quite as good as he once was. It was satisfying to see Djokovic get ticked off when Fed was putting a whooping on him
Not many things in life are as satisfying as seeing Djokovic get outplayed
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Amen.Not many things in life are as satisfying as seeing Djokovic get outplayed
Tennis_Hands
Banned
I see a tweet. That is not a source for where the person tweeted it gathered that info from, nor does it say anything about how that data was compiled
TheMaestro1990
Hall of Fame
How much of that time is bouncing the ball 10x times before the serve and adjusting underwear, hair etc? Maybe half a day?
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
What a worthless post.
TheAssassin
Legend
Not many things in life are as satisfying as seeing Djokovic get outplayed
I bet you guys treasure that now more than ever, considering how often (or rather rarely) it happens nowadays.
On a more serious note, I like all the best qualities that each of those three match ups bring. They have been by far the most special part of this great and very long era of tennis.
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
4 to 5, a small difference but yes.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Yeah seems about right. Djokodal has more matches and a more even spread of wins and losses, Fedal has the better overall quality of matches IMO.
RaulRamirez
Legend
Which matches would you list as classics for both rivalries - and also for Roger v. Novak? Does it have to be a major (and 5 sets?) to qualify as a classic? I'm more curious than I am challenging your assertion. Certainly, a few come to mind for each category, although it is somewhat subjective.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
It's not overrated. It's a great rivalry. Fedal rivalry however at its peak was the best of the best. Now we pretend like many of those matches were lopsided, but it wasn't really the case back then. Wherever I went to watch their matches, a section of us would cheer for Federer and another for Rafa.
Watching some of their RG and Wimbledon finals could make you feel like you're watching a football world cup final. Their rivalry brought in many many casual sport fans to tennis.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Doesn't have to be in a major or 5 sets to be a classic, Madrid 2009 SF would be a classic IMO.
Fedal;
Rome 2006
Wimbledon 2007
Wimbledon 2008
AO 2009
AO 2017
Djokodal:
Madrid 2009
AO 2012
FO 2013
Wim 2018
I'd say that Fedovic probably has the least classics of the three rivalries the only ones that come to mind are FO 2011, USO 2011 and Wim 2014. I do think the average quality of that rivalry is very high though.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Overrated by those that like to champion it as the hands down greatest rivalry of all time, it's obviously a great rivalry just not the hands down best (or maybe even the best at all).
TheMaestro1990
Hall of Fame
What a worthless username.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
I see your point. It's one of the greatest rivalries in tennis history for sure, but I think Fedal and Borg-McEnroe rivalries had more drama and fan following.
NatF
Bionic Poster
I wasn't here to witness Borg vs Mac, only 14 official matches but they happened in maybe the golden age of tennis - Borg was basically a rockstar in terms of following.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
He was. I don't think even Federer is as popular as Bjorn Borg was in his days.
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
Borg-McEnroe and Lendl-Edberg were the most even ATG rivalries, of course that also had to do with no clay meetings where Borg would no doubt shred McEnroe and Lendl would no doubt shred Edberg every single time in their primes.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Fed would've won 139+ matches in that time.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Subway Tennis
Legend
Another underrated match is Miami 2011.
Novak was in a period of wrestling control of the rivalry around this time.
Rafa was fighting like crazy but Djokovic had the ball on a string. The muscularity of the rallies, the defence and the shot-making was superhuman. At the time, no other pairing in men's tennis was capable of producing a match quite like that.
Novak was in a period of wrestling control of the rivalry around this time.
Rafa was fighting like crazy but Djokovic had the ball on a string. The muscularity of the rallies, the defence and the shot-making was superhuman. At the time, no other pairing in men's tennis was capable of producing a match quite like that.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
I bet you guys treasure that now more than ever, considering how often (or rather rarely) it happens nowadays.
On a more serious note, I like all the best qualities that each of those three match ups bring. They have been by far the most special part of this great and very long era of tennis.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I bet you guys treasure that now more than ever, considering how often (or rather rarely) it happens nowadays.
On a more serious note, I like all the best qualities that each of those three match ups bring. They have been by far the most special part of this great and very long era of tennis.
