Federer Slam Winning Scenarios Betterer with Medvedev

With Djokovic now possibly Tsits's whipping boy and the emergence of Medvedev one wonders if this opens the door a bit wider for Federer to win a slam. This boils down to possible draws. For now with both at three and four in the world Medvedev is protected from playing Federer, but that will likely change as Medvedev ascends to #1 in the world. The gap between Medvedev and Djokovic in the race is just over 2000 points. Djokovic is playing well, but early draw dangers exist in Paris like for R16 with Wawrinka, Isner, and FAA as an unknown. First match could easily be other in form unknowns like Rublev, De Minaur, and the well known 2-0 Kyrgios. Also a group like Medvedev, Tsitsipas, and Zverev could knock him out early at World Tour Finals. We also have the 750 point max ATP cup where Djokovic may be carrying a heavy Serbian team while Medvedev will have Khachanov plus Rublev on the Russian team. Its not likely that Medvedev will pass Djokovic for world #2 by the Australian Open, but the chances are good that it happens by Indian Wells.

In a world of ultimate Djokovic frustration we have Medvedev as #2 seed at Australia.
Top 4 seeds in draw:
1 Nadal
4 Federer
3 Djokovic
2 Medvedev

Federer can easily advance especially if lets say he gets the eight seed and its Berrettini while Djokovic gets stuck with Tsitsipas and Medvedev blocking his way. Or with these seeds:
1 Nadal
3 Djokovic
4 Federer
2 Medvedev

Good chance for Fed to finesse his way into final with Djokovic and these courts are faster. Nadal will likely be more formidable at the 2020 Australian Open so at the very least might soften up Djokovic a bit.

Expected Djokovic still #1 or even #2 in the world:
1. Djokovic
3. Medvedev
2. Nadal
4. Federer
(same as discussed above)
1. Djokovic
4. Federer
3. Medvedev
2. Nadal

Federer might have to beat Djokovic and Nadal back to back which would be rough, so 50/50 chance of getting good draw at Australian Open for this most likely seeding scenario. Things betterer with Medvedev as 2 seed.

This draw logic likely holds for Wimbledon as well except chances are Medvedev will be #2 seed. This will help Federer's chances a lot since Djokovic will have to beat Nadal or Medvedev to get to him in a final and quite likely to be softened up at the very least. Federer's chances for a slam in 2020 are greatly aided by Medvedev's ascension into the top 4. Another US Open might not be out of the question.

Once Medvedev gets to #2 it may actually get harder for him to make it to #1 as Federer appears to be the worst match-up problem for Medly on all surfaces.

Not a single mention of Muzziah in your post.

Literally worse than Hitler

More stuck at 20 cope posting.

Federer will travel half the world from here to the AO.
He will arrive much more tired than he should, and with more than 38 years, it is no longer safe, even that he can advance to the quarterfinals of a GS and even if he reached that instance, the Swiss will lose sets along the way, which translates into additional hours of play, therefore, the impossibility of success in a big tournament.
In short, 20 Majors is his final number.

As a Sock and Busta fan, I find that Zverev will be a problem for Federer in Slams. Zed will deny Fed any chances of adding more Slams.

Red Rick said:

Not a single mention of Muzziah in your post.

Literally worse than Hitler

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Hehe. Its complicated enough as it is so I didn't even include top 8 seeds where Tsits is Djoko kryptonite these days. No need to mention dangerous floaters, but I'm all for the Bionic Breaker to be Nole's first match in Paris if Guy Fraudget has the brains to convince him to play.

Backspin1183 said:

As a Sock and Busta fan

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I chuckled

Backspin1183 said:

As a Sock and Busta fan, I find that Zverev will be a problem for Federer in Slams. Zed will deny Fed any chances of adding more Slams.

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Zedrot has to get to a QF or better in a slam Fed plays which hasn't happened yet.

DSH said:

Federer will travel half the world from here to the AO.
He will arrive much more tired than he should, and with more than 38 years, it is no longer safe, even, that he can advance to the quarterfinals of a GS and even if he reached that instance, the Swiss will lose sets along the way, which translates into additional hours of play, therefore, the impossibility of success in a big tournament.
In short, 20 Majors is his final number.

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Possible, maybe even probable, but I think Medvedev's presence enhances his chances. Tsitsipas is likely more of a threat to Djokovic than Federer despite last years Australian Open final. Fed won it the two years before last.

James P said:

More stuck at 20 cope posting.

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Does this means the ramblings are bordering on the incoherent? (The thrust and theory of the OP is almost like a law of nature.)

Meles said:

Possible, maybe even probable, but I think Medvedev's presence enhances his chances. Tsitsipas is likely more of a threat to Djokovic than Federer despite last years Australian Open final. Fed won it the two years before last.

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Every beginning has an end, it is a truism, but it is like that, pal.

DSH said:

Every beginning has an end, it is a truism, but it is like that, pal.

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Federer is like a bad rash; you can't get rid of him.

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Meles said:

Federer is like a bad rash; you can't get rid of him.

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@Meles This might prove true, but for it to happen, Federer has to retain the #4 spot. He likely will be in the top four seeds at the AO and Wimbledon next year, but maybe not the US Open. Also, I don't buy the stuff about softening Djokovic up. His chances are much better if Medvedev beats Djokovic for him. Or even if Nadal does so.

N.B. He might well only be in the top four seeds for Wimbledon because of the seeding formula.

helterskelter said:

@Meles This might prove true, but for it to happen, Federer has to retain the #4 spot. He likely will be in the top four seeds at the AO and Wimbledon next year, but maybe not the US Open. Also, I don't buy the stuff about softening Djokovic up. His chances are much better if Medvedev beats Djokovic for him. Or even if Nadal does so.

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Just being nice to the Djoko fans with the softening. I'm expecting a very enjoyable time for those who enjoy agony of defeat moments for Nole.

Djokovic will be the 1st or 2nd seed at AO. Medvedev is thousands of points behind.

Meles said:

Just being nice to the Djoko fans with the softening. I'm expecting a very enjoyable time for those who enjoy agony of defeat moments for Nole.

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Could be. It definitely looks worrying for both him and Federer right now. But the Australian Open is his favorite major tournament so he may be difficult to dislodge there.

Fed need not worry. He will simply give his buddy Stan a big tip again when the situation calls for it.

Backspin1183 said:

As a Sock and Busta fan

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Wait, so do they actually have fans?! ;-)

lol at Tsits being Djokovic's krytonite.

NatF said:

lol at Tsits being Djokovic's krytonite.

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"Actually lets review the score card:
41/2019 QF Shanghai Masters Hard Stefanos Tsitsipas Novak Djokovic 3-6 7-5 6-3
19/2019 F Madrid Masters Clay Novak Djokovic Stefanos Tsitsipas 6-3 6-4 right after victory over Nadal
32/2018 R16 Canadian Masters Hard Stefanos Tsitsipas Novak Djokovic 6-3 6-7(5) 6-3

For sure Novak got caught with his drawers down at the Canadian Masters, but this was in between winning three major events around this and of course Tsitsipas a far, far better player now in 2019. The lone Djokovic victory was right after Tsitsipas beat Nadal on clay and won Estoril just the week before. Add to this that Novak might find a higher level in the coming years, but Tsitsipas is extremely likely to go up a few more significant notches with his game. Advantage Tsitsipas."

just recyled this post from another thread. The Lurkerpas is no joke.

Of course.

Now the ATP will make sure Novak ALWAYS gets Bearerer in the semis and ALWAYS Tsestsefly in the QFs, and ALWAYS (if the rankings allow) Wawrinka in 4th round.

Because ATP are a bunch of corporate RFanboiz.

Federer will find a way to lose to someone else.

Meanwhile , RF will lose to Dimitrov in Quarters

Fraud winning any slems or even being in the finals would legit surprise me. He really looks done this time around. And man that age is just too damn advanced right now.

This is wishful thinking (and I'm really wishing it can be true). Medvedev elevating his game only makes it harder for Federer because it is another top level player that can take him out in the semi or final of a grand slam. It's silly to think that Federer will just easily beat Medvedev every time they face each other in the future. With the way Medvedev has been playing, I think he will likely be able to turn the tables on Federer and would be favored when they next meet.

Let's see if Medvedev backs his current performances up next season before we get ahead of ourselves. As soon as a nextgen player does anything of note he gets hyped. Remember that Dimitrov and Zverev won the last two editions of the WTF and Zverev has three M1000 titles. Thiem has two slam finals and a M1000 title. None of these guys have been able to challenge the big 3 consistently at the slams.

Robert Baratheon said:

Fraud winning any slems or even being in the finals would legit surprise me. He really looks done this time around. And man that age is just too damn advanced right now.

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You had me fooled for a second there.

Nice Kitty you got there.