Open stance forehand weight transfer
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In the video is said and displayed, it is not good to over rotate, the left foot goes not as far backwards as i do it.
pencilcheck
Hall of Fame
Not sure if I understand the question, as the video is not focusing on about not overrotate and not about the position of the left foot.
Maybe it is not the first big point, but is it the second point.
For sure is it mentoined and yes my question refers to this point.
Dan Huben
Semi-Pro
Most open stance guidance that I’ve seen and read discusses stability on the strong side. I think as long as you keep your axis of rotation stabile aka not pull off the **** in moving your left leg, you’re fine.
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As soon as an instructor has an apparel contract, many will say you can’t hit in cotton. The gift of the internet is that you can see lots of different opinions at once and pick one that works or connects with you. The trouble of forums is that some people emotionally connect to what works for them and since we are an over-mommied society, everyone is taught to think their options count and that their unique insight is worth your time.
Watch other vids and see the one or two items that aren’t cancelled out and try those.
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Happi
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sredna42
Hall of Fame
James Blake said he used to imagine he was sitting down then standing up
pencilcheck
Hall of Fame
Ok, first you probably had a huge misunderstanding of the point of the video, at least to me. My understanding is that the point of the video is handling running forehand. Not sure if you notice the coach looks like he is in the process of running to the side and just before hitting. He is offering a solution (not the only way btw, all pros including Nadal, Fed, Djokovic all hit slightly differently) to help hitting when you are doing running forehand when you have huge existing momentum going to the forehand side. Therefore my understanding is that where you place your left foot is not relevant, as long as you intuitively find balance since you already gathered enough momentum to create the force to hit the stroke.
The do not over-rotate argument shouldn't be taken out of context. My understanding is that the coach is simply saying that you shouldn't over-rotate depending on where you want to hit towards.
On the side note, I would say that you should focus less on open or neutral stance, but focus on the feeling that helps you hit consistently, focusing on form is fun when you are starting out, but as you getting more and more experience hitting with various different opponents, and because ball can be hit anywhere, you shouldn't limit yourself on only hitting with one type of stance, otherwise you will not be able to adapt to new opponent. Also open stance hitting is harder esp when handling low/fast balls which is very prevalent among recreational tennis, not only it makes it harder to contact because the ball tend to drop sooner, but also because the contact point and your body angles that allow you to rotate is more demanding on your glute and thigh. If your glute and thigh is not strong, then open stance would be hard to hit.
5263
G.O.A.T.
because this guy is wrongly trying to teach you to extend your shot down the target line of your shot after contact and he doesn't understand how this shot especially uses 'rotational power'.... when these guys talk about extending the hitting zone, they are going back to the old 'hit thru 5 balls' model where you try to hit around ball 3 with a linear swing from balls 1-5. Imo this is one of the worst paradigms to take hold in tennis and responsible for the glut of players stuck from moving past 4.0
Mountain Ghost
Professional
He's teaching the guy to NOT place his right foot OUTSIDE of the rotational axis of his stroke ... which means there is NO foot for angular momentum to start pushing off from ... almost like an INTENTIONAL "falling out" of his rotational potential ... ... ... "Weird Science" ... not to mention ugly to observe ~ MG
pencilcheck
Hall of Fame
I have a slightly different variations of it, but to be fair to the video coach, there is rotational element in it, try it yourself, see if it is easier to rotate if you go from that position to almost standing up. It is almost like you are doing a superman pose but you are intentionally rotating forward towards the ball versus whatever you were doing by jumping around with both legs
sredna42
Hall of Fame
I have massive problems over rotating and kinda swatting at the ball, because my leg leg is stuffed and doesn't want to drive through the ball. I think if you use your legs to drive your weight toward your target, by default you won't over rotate because your energy/weight is directed outward, but it is a subtle thing that's hard to see on video
Dragy
Legend
Look at this a bit differently. To create power from torso rotation you need to drive that rotation. You need to drive your right (for righty) side towards right and forward with right leg push and/or left side to the left and backward with left leg push. In fully open stance you cannot push forward/backward against the ground, just rotate torso against legs (a bit similar to a jump scissors kick shots) - unless you overrotate past chest facing net. Hence trying to recruit more rotational power in open stance causes overrotation, using latter stage of rotation to produce power compared to neutral/semi-open stance.
