I mean not 3x in match only for surprise, but pretty often in match, but not after every serve like in 90s. Often but not too often on faster HC, indoor and grass. What do you think. I know it is common fact that SV is dead, but when you look on Mardy Fish against Djokovic he was pretty succesfull in Montreal F, and it is accepted here that Nole is best returner.. so how the hell some Fish was winning points more than loosing when Serve and volleying?j I think SV can be succesfull if you have great serve and volleys- not everyone can do this in this decade, but because of nobody is playing this, there is actually not evolved deffense against this, even best returner struggled- also remeber last year Llodra SV in Paris-Bercy? yes Djokovic wasn´t so great like this season and Bercy is one of fastest surfaces on the tour, but still , Llodra seemed very impressive and imagine if he wasn´t that doing all the time, but occasianoly 1-twice in service game - that means your opponent can´t read that and return that well and if you had good serve and volleys it is almost sure point for you, because how i said there is almost no deffense, because nobody is used on return to face that.
Could S&V be succesfull on faster surfaces if it is not used all the time?
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DeShaun
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I think it could, but one would need absolutely flawless transition volleys and a service game that was remarkable equally both for its power and it variety...and of course, he would need impeccable anticipation along with superb wheels and balance. Someone with Llodra's instincts and Tsonga's size and power could be "the one" to impose a devastating S&V game, like Pete Sampras 2.0 where the raw shock to his opponents of their suddenly being under heavy attack, violently assaulted on their own baseline by a piercing volley that could almost stand in for a kill shot, gets the desired result. Someone needs to elevate swinging volleys hit aggressively from all positions on court.
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Manus Domini
Hall of Fame
Mardy Fish, end of thread
Doubles
Legend
+1 Mardy's a great example of an S&V player, so is Michael Llodra...
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FedExpress 333
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Absolutely, if some pro grew a pair and tried!
BrooklynNY
Hall of Fame
Yeah, I think definitely...players just need to also be well versed in playing a net game, unlike most players we see now.
Li Ching Yuen
Legend
The only way it's coming back is if the ATP brings back fast surfaces. The way things stand now, there are only about 3 courts at ATP level that are fast enough for it and they're all in France: Paris Masters, Metz, Montpellier. All indoors too.
On medium speed courts like Cincy and USO you could probably do it, but if the serve is not good enough and the guy gets to it you're pretty much toast no matter if you're Edberg or McEnroe. Sure you're probably gonna make 3 out 10 by collecting some errors and making one impossible drop volley or smth but in the end it's a losing game.
Guys like Edberg and Rafter had amazing slow kick serve that set up their s&v beautifully.
Put that in todays tennis with the current equipment and on the current surfaces and you'll get a guy like Bellucci piercing you a super topspin hammer forehand right through eyes in your brainhole.
That's pretty much how it stands.
As an element of surprise sure, sometimes it might get the job done.
Btw, most of what you're seeing today are putaways, not the kind of volleys dudes where hitting in the 90's, stretched out and with their bowels making contact with the court.
On medium speed courts like Cincy and USO you could probably do it, but if the serve is not good enough and the guy gets to it you're pretty much toast no matter if you're Edberg or McEnroe. Sure you're probably gonna make 3 out 10 by collecting some errors and making one impossible drop volley or smth but in the end it's a losing game.
Guys like Edberg and Rafter had amazing slow kick serve that set up their s&v beautifully.
Put that in todays tennis with the current equipment and on the current surfaces and you'll get a guy like Bellucci piercing you a super topspin hammer forehand right through eyes in your brainhole.
That's pretty much how it stands.
As an element of surprise sure, sometimes it might get the job done.
Btw, most of what you're seeing today are putaways, not the kind of volleys dudes where hitting in the 90's, stretched out and with their bowels making contact with the court.
Marius_Hancu
Talk Tennis Guru
give us faster surfaces
Manus Domini
Hall of Fame
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