Federer - Games Lost Through Three Rounds

[McEnroeisanartist]

Through the first three round of the 2013 U.S. Open, Federer has lost 21 games. This is the third fewest games lost through three rounds at a Grand Slam in his career. Below are the Grand Slams where he lost fewer games through three rounds.

20 - 2004 Australian Open
19 - 2004 Wimbledon

 

[hoodjem]

He's gonna go all the way!

 

[Sentinel]

What about the quality of the opponents ?

Who is next up ?

p.s. Nadal in quarters, dishing out bagels

 

[jelle v]

With Nadal in the quarters, i wonder how much it matters..

 

[tata]

As much as i want to say Fed is back to his old self, the opponents he's faced haven't really tested him. But it is good to see him get through easily to save energy.

 

[Midaso240]

With Nadal in the quarters, i wonder how much it matters..

+1. Fed probably couldn't even beat him indoors now

 

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

I am sure Nadal must be shaking in his boots.

 

[jelle v]

I am sure Nadal must be shaking in his boots.

Wow.. uncalled for looking at the replies in this thread. Feeling good about yourself now?

 

[firepanda]

Wow, Fed fans are a depressed lot. You guys are supporting the GOAT! Give him some respect, he's playing well!

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

Through the first three round of the 2013 U.S. Open, Federer has lost 21 games. This is the third fewest games lost through three rounds at a Grand Slam in his career. Below are the Grand Slams where he lost fewer games through three rounds.

20 - 2004 Australian Open
19 - 2004 Wimbledon

He's gonna lose 18 games in 4 days

 

[Bobby Jr]

I believe it's also his 106th match in a major where he's conceded 10 games or fewer.

 

[MichaelNadal]

This is gonna be a titanic battle with Rafa. I have to say thank God he's in good form. I would hate for what could be the only time they meet at the US Open, for Federer to not be in form. I hope for a classic match like the old days!

 

[kalyan4fedever]

This is gonna be a titanic battle with Rafa. I have to say thank God he's in good form. I would hate for what could be the only time they meet at the US Open, for Federer to not be in form. I hope for a classic match like the old days!

Yes with 32yr old fed, its gonna be titanic

 

[rossi46]

Yeah and I take it he has come to net as well and had success, something he doesn't dare attempt against the top players.

 

[monfed]

This is gonna be a titanic battle with Rafa. I have to say thank God he's in good form. I would hate for what could be the only time they meet at the US Open, for Federer to not be in form. I hope for a classic match like the old days!

Yes Fed will race to a good start and win the 1st set. He'll then drop the 1st/2nd game of the 2nd set and then Ralph will win the next 3 sets to wrap it up in 4, it will be like AO 12 SF.

 

[Fiercer]

He's gonna lose 18 games in 4 days

7-6 7-6 7-6?

 

[Finesse4sum]

What sort of performance could Federer give Nadal in the quarterfinals that would give an impression that he had a good chance of beating Nadal in 08, 09, and maybe even 2010 USO.

I think a tight 4 sets with a TB and a 7-5 thrown in there would be enough and 5 sets would be amazing but you'd imagine a 6-2 or 6-1 in Nadal's favor if it goes to 5.


Which version of Rafa would Federer have done better against (in terms of current form)? The 08 one that lost to Murray? The 09 one that lost to Delpo? or
the 2010 one that beat Youzhny and Djoker with the mythical 130 first serve?

 

[monfed]

The problem is Fed doesn't know WHAT to do when he gets the lead against Nadal. He just doesn't remember how he beat him so the feeling of beating him is not familiar if that makes sense? It's like he's waiting for an inevitable Nadal comeback which he shouldn't put much stock in and thus just surrender the advantage. If I was Annacone I'd tell him 3 things:

1) Take EVERY second serve return on the FH side, dont care if it's in the AD court and don't care if he gets aced in an embarassing fashion. Just quit with the BH chip returns, they are just useless. Don't give Nadal 40-0/ 40-15 games. Make it tough for him, make him think like its not easy for him to hold serve. Play with his psyche.

2) Go full blast on BPs,look to hit winners dont wait for Ralph to commit the UE or dictate the point. Fed's not gonna convert BPs from a defensive position against Ralph IMO.

3) KEEP.AT.IT and don't give up midmatch for crying out loud when the momentum shifts. It's a momentum shift not the END OF THE MATCH!

 

[Finesse4sum]

The problem is Fed doesn't know WHAT to do when he gets the lead against Nadal. He just doesn't remember how he beat him so the feeling of beating him is not familiar if that makes sense? It's like he's waiting for an inevitable Nadal comeback which he shouldn't put much stock in and thus just surrender the advantage. If I was Annacone I'd tell him 3 things:

1) Take EVERY second serve return on the FH side, dont care if it's in the AD court and don't care if he gets aced in an embarassing fashion. Just quit with the BH chip returns, they are just useless.

2) Go full blast on BPs,look to hit winners dont wait for Ralph to commit the UE or dictate the point. Fed's not gonna convert BPs from a defensive position against Ralph IMO.

3) KEEP.AT.IT and don't give up midmatch for crying out loud when the momentum shifts. It's a momentum shift not the END OF THE MATCH!

1) Yeah keep Nadal honest. He'll still probably use the wide spinner 75 percent on AD no matter what.

2) Thats a little tough to ask for. I recall him doing some of that at AO 2012, hopefully the court speed will aid that tactic at least 15-20 percent (USO cant be as slow as AO, Miami)

3) I wish Federer knew how to invigorate himself more sort of like Murray does (without the mental slumps and slow starting though)

 

[Towser83]

This is gonna be a titanic battle with Rafa. I have to say thank God he's in good form. I would hate for what could be the only time they meet at the US Open, for Federer to not be in form. I hope for a classic match like the old days!

No. I dunno whether you are just being overly optimistic or preparing to congratulate Nadal on beating the mighty Federer again, but Federer is not going to do squat against Nadal. You are a Nadal fan, rejoice that Nadal is almost 100% certain to beat Fed at the last remaining slam he hasn't beaten him at. This is good for him. I know it's nice that you don't want to see Fed beaten badly but as a Fed fan it's also sad to see Nadal fans actually wanting Fed to play well because they know there is no way Federer is winning no matter what he does these days.

Right now is the biggest the gap there has ever been between these two players. Nadal is at his most successful on HC at any point in his career. On the other hand Federer has slipped to number 7 in the world, lost in the second round of a major, won only a 250 all year, has already been beaten 3 times by Nadal this year, 2 of which were absolute kickings.

It's been 6 years since Fed beat Nadal in a slam, since then he's lost 5 slam meetings in a row, and it's 4 years since he took more than a set of Nadal. Federer is not getting close to beating him and despite the few games lost this year you have to look at who Federer has played.

I dunno, maybe you will get a classic match like the old days if Federer plays the best tennis he can right now (which means like the old days Federer will get close to winning but lose, probably in 4 this time but no way in 5) I guess I'm overly cynical because even if it's a classic match like the old days, it's one where Federer has no chance to win. I'm sure Fed will make some stupid charges to the net to set Nadal up with some great passing shots that will make his fans vamos, and make Nadal play some great points for the highlights reel. At least you are one of the fans that appreciates Fed for that. But I think the time for a competitive match between them at the USO passed long ago (well maybe 2011 at the latest)

 

[monfed]

The problem for Fed is that he doesn't have a proper winning strategy v/s Nadal that he can just freely use that he does so well with other players with any real margin or any backup plan that he can fall back on. Against Ralph, it's more about playing at an unreasonably high level to overcome the FH-BH handicap. Once his level comes down , it's curtains so Ralph just waits for Fed's level to fall or Fed to concede the break being 40-15 up or somethin. Ralph knows deep down that he can just hammer away at Fed's BH and eventually the victory will come once Fed can't keep up anymore.

 

[Omega_7000]

The problem for Fed is that he doesn't have a proper winning strategy v/s Nadal that he can just freely use that he does so well with other players with any real margin or any backup plan that he can fall back on. Against Ralph, it's more about playing at an unreasonably high level to overcome the FH-BH handicap. Once his level comes down , it's curtains so Ralph just waits for Fed's level to fall or Fed to concede the break being 40-15 up or somethin. Ralph knows deep down that he can just hammer away at Fed's BH and eventually the victory will come once Fed can't keep up anymore.

True...and now he's in his head so much that even if Federer is in the lead, he just cannot finish off sets sometimes, let alone matches.

 

[Russeljones]

What sort of performance could Federer give Nadal in the quarterfinals that would give an impression that he had a good chance of beating Nadal in 08, 09, and maybe even 2010 USO.

I think a tight 4 sets with a TB and a 7-5 thrown in there would be enough and 5 sets would be amazing but you'd imagine a 6-2 or 6-1 in Nadal's favor if it goes to 5.


Which version of Rafa would Federer have done better against (in terms of current form)? The 08 one that lost to Murray? The 09 one that lost to Delpo? or
the 2010 one that beat Youzhny and Djoker with the mythical 130 first serve?

Drugs are bad mmmk?

 

[Cup8489]

He's gonna lose 18 games in 4 days

Hes gonna win three tie breaks against rafa? Good call!