What factors into manueverability....

[Borat]

So, what really factors into manueverability? here are some examples for the spec experts to analyze. What matters in manueverability the most SW? Static Weight? Balance? Which will generate the most racquet head speed?

1)11.7 oz, 8 pts HL, SW=308
2)12 oz, 7pts HL, SW=324
3)11 oz, 3 pts. HL, SW=327
4)11.1 oz, 3 pts HL, SW=333
5)11 oz., 3 pts HL, SW= 312
all 4 3/8 grip size, 98 inch head size

Can you rank these in manueverabilty and racquet head speed, and explain what factors into manueverability and racquet head speed the most.....thanks

 

[ferocious4hand]

doesn't headsize contribute to manueverability?

 

[VGP]

balance point
static weight
degree of polarization
twistweight
grip size and shape

 

[Borat]

Ok.... if anyone could rank these on racquet head speed... thats what I really need to know along with manueverability.

 

[AAAA]

static weight and swing weight affects racquet manueverability. The degree to which each factor affects manueverability depends on how close that factor is to YOUR limit.

 

[WhiteSox05CA]

What matters is how the weight is distributed. Otherwise SW would be easy to come by, through the weight and balance point. Twistweight provides the most benefit in off-center hits.

So with the SW already factory determined:
1 5 2 3 4 most likely. When you're talking about manueverability it could be a lot of different things. On a normal groundstroke this is the order of fastest racquet head speed starting with the Technifibre.

Swingweight is the closet thing on paper to determining what it's manueverability would be like. It's hard to define manueverability, such as fast and quick transactions at the net or faster swingspeed.

What's best and safest, is just a demo. You can't tell what fits your stroke best. I've found that you can analyze all you want on paper, but ultimately the demo is the only way to go.

 

[Borat]

Racquet Head Speed Potential

 

[Borat]

can anyone tell me which ones would give the most racquet head speed potential? thanks

 

[AAAA]

can anyone tell me which ones would give the most racquet head speed potential? thanks

1)11.7 oz, 8 pts HL, SW=308
5)11 oz., 3 pts HL, SW= 315

1 is about 20 grams heavier than 5. From experience 20 grams is very noticable by me while the swingweight difference of 7 isn't as noticable so I'd pick 5 as the most manueverable.

 

[Borat]

So.. the least manueverable has the least racquet head speed?

 

[AAAA]

So.. the least manueverable has the least racquet head speed?

how did you reach that conclusion?

 

[Borat]

oooooh sorry, I misread your above post.

 

[Borat]

How would #1 and #3 match up????

 

[WhiteSox05CA]

I bet that if you demo them, they will fall in that order I gave. Maybe with a slight changes due to your stroke because they are all pretty close.

This is why we have swingweight, so we know how the racquet force feels swinging.

I've heard that the Pure Storm (3) was pretty manueverable. And the Technifibre TFight 320 (1) should be.

 

[Borat]

yah, I am gonna demo racquets.... I was just curious.

 

[AAAA]

swingweight doesn't account for racquet manueverability during the take back phase of groundstrokes or raising the racquet above one's head during when serving.

 

[WhiteSox05CA]

swingweight doesn't account for racquet manueverability during the take back phase of groundstrokes or raising the racquet above one's head during when serving.

That's why I mentioned that manueverability covers many different movements, and that swingweight is measured most closely to a flat groundstroke.

 

[bcsax123]

BTW #2 sounds like FXP Prestige MP, #4 like the FXP Radical MP. If so, #2 will be much more manueverable than #4.

 

[WhiteSox05CA]

I don't think any of them are Flexpoints.

I wouldn't be surprised if #2 was the Fischer M Speed Pro. No. 1

 

[AAAA]

and that swingweight is measured most closely to a flat groundstroke.

Mostly during the forward swing phase of the stroke. Swingweight is a measure of the force needed to pivot the racquet about a point about 10cm from the endcap.

I haven't gone on court and tried it but I think the type of forward swing can affect how much you feel the swingweight. For a basic forehand technique where the racquet stays in roughly the same plan as the fore-arm with little wrist action the resistance will be mostly static weight, theorising here. For techniques using a cocked/laid back wrist the swingweight possibly becomes more of a factor. I'll need to purposefully try both techniques on court to add credence or discredit my thinking here.

 

[bcsax123]

I don't think any of them are Flexpoints.

I wouldn't be surprised if #2 was the Fischer M Speed Pro. No. 1

Wow I just looked at the specs, and I think you're right. I just rememberthe Static Weight and Balance, and the SWs sounded right.

 

[WhiteSox05CA]

Mostly during the forward swing phase of the stroke. Swingweight is a measure of the force needed to pivot the racquet about a point about 10cm from the endcap.

I haven't gone on court and tried it but I think the type of forward swing can affect how much you feel the swingweight. For a basic forehand technique where the racquet stays in roughly the same plan as the arm with little wrist action the resistance will be mostly static weight, theorising here. For techniques using a cocked/laid back wrist the swingweight possibly becomes more of a factor. I'll need to purposefully try both techniques on court to add credence or discredit my thinking here.

Yeah I agree, that's why I said that Borat should ultimately just determine this by a playtest.

 

[Borat]

Any guess on the other 4 whitesox?

 

[AAAA]

Yeah I agree, that's why I said that Borat should ultimately just determine this by a playtest.

Agree................