Yonex RDS 001 MP Review

dekko1

Semi-Pro
I was wondering since the price on this stick has gone down and cannot be ignored, where are you guys? THe review here has been pretty high, so have you guys switched to another frame or have you bought another of these, I wanted to know coz I am tempted to shell out some bucks with it, but through my searching I also came across with couple of negative comments about this frame........, I am currently using Fischer Mpro 98 and love it but I'm tempted with this one because of the price....

It is a great racquet, and it is at such good value right now.
If Yonex repainted it, gave it a different name and released it as a new model, people would be raving about it.
 

0d1n

Hall of Fame
I was wondering since the price on this stick has gone down and cannot be ignored, where are you guys? THe review here has been pretty high, so have you guys switched to another frame or have you bought another of these, I wanted to know coz I am tempted to shell out some bucks with it, but through my searching I also came across with couple of negative comments about this frame........, I am currently using Fischer Mpro 98 and love it but I'm tempted with this one because of the price....

The Yonex will give you nothing more when compared to the Fischer.
The RDS has similar power/control/maneuverability...with a stiffer feel. So...if you like the feel of your Fischers, just stick with them...they are a bit more stable as well.
 

carlos djackal

Professional
The Yonex will give you nothing more when compared to the Fischer.
The RDS has similar power/control/maneuverability...with a stiffer feel. So...if you like the feel of your Fischers, just stick with them...they are a bit more stable as well.


noted, was wondering if you have tried the Head LM radical MP, it's also very cheap right now and one of the rackets I am tempted to buy for its low price, how does it compare?.......thanks..
 

Anton

Legend
am i the only one who feels like the rds 001 mp feels sluggish from the back of the court? feels like i am swinging something beefier like a wilson tour 90, something with a sw over 330. i love the quality, the paint, the spec "numbers", crisp/solid feeling of this one on groundies, but i just dont get the feeling that i can whip this frame around on demand. specs are right in line with what i like, but the frame almost feels head heavy to me (or like all the weight is clustered right in the bridge area, with very little in the handle). i feel the same thing with the volkl pb9, curiously.

interesting you mention tour 90 - I think of RDS001MP as tweenish take on the 90 series.

Just got myself 4 frames - 2 grams of lead distributed 10 to 2 with TW leather on the handle and 16L poly at 60lbs.

With this more polarized setup the frame feels VERY whippy and fairly stable - very easy to play consistently with. The leather makes the frame feel much more substantial.

With all the loop I'm getting on my balls and racket flailing over my head on down the line shots I'm feeling distinctly Nadalish haha
 

mdjenders

Professional
interesting you mention tour 90 - I think of RDS001MP as tweenish take on the 90 series.

Just got myself 4 frames - 2 grams of lead distributed 10 to 2 with TW leather on the handle and 16L poly at 60lbs.

With this more polarized setup the frame feels VERY whippy and fairly stable - very easy to play consistently with. The leather makes the frame feel much more substantial.

With all the loop I'm getting on my balls and racket flailing over my head on down the line shots I'm feeling distinctly Nadalish haha

thx for the information! i will slap a leather grip on mine to see how that feels. right now i feel like this is a smooth swinger's "let racket do the work" type of frame, when i really prefer something more nimble in the air.
 

nabbydian

Hall of Fame
noted, was wondering if you have tried the Head LM radical MP, it's also very cheap right now and one of the rackets I am tempted to buy for its low price, how does it compare?.......thanks..

the RDS001 and LM Radical MP are quite different racquets in terms of specs. RDS001MP is 16x19 while LMRMP is 18x20, e RDS001MP is also around 20g heavier and more headlight.

i played both, the LM radical has been capped and base grip change to TW leather and they feel very different.

Groundstrokes:
Both are above average in terms of groundstrokes, the RDS has more control and direction with groundstrokes compared to LM which i tend to hit the ball long with more often. However with the LM it will be easier to impart power on your shots. there is no need to impart a full swing to hit throught the ball compared to the RDS.

Stability:
Both are not the most stable racquet around but RDS slightly is better over here and will be able to withstand tough rallies better.

Not the most detailed comparison but your choice should be based on your preferred specs.
 

carlos djackal

Professional
the RDS001 and LM Radical MP are quite different racquets in terms of specs. RDS001MP is 16x19 while LMRMP is 18x20, e RDS001MP is also around 20g heavier and more headlight.

i played both, the LM radical has been capped and base grip change to TW leather and they feel very different.

Groundstrokes:
Both are above average in terms of groundstrokes, the RDS has more control and direction with groundstrokes compared to LM which i tend to hit the ball long with more often. However with the LM it will be easier to impart power on your shots. there is no need to impart a full swing to hit throught the ball compared to the RDS.

Stability:
Both are not the most stable racquet around but RDS slightly is better over here and will be able to withstand tough rallies better.

Not the most detailed comparison but your choice should be based on your preferred specs.



thanks for sharing, your insight is greatly appreciated, I will be ordering and my choice is between the two for the price, still contemplating of the choice I have to make though........
 
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BC1

Professional
Carlos, Let us know how your decision goes and why. I too have been looking at both of these because of the great prices. I know they are completely different racquets, but for the price it doesn't seem like you can go wrong with either.

The comments about the RDS001 poor serves have me concerned. My serve has always been my strong point of my game, and I'd hate to get a racquet that harms it. Any other comments about the serves? good, bad, indifferent.
 

el sergento

Hall of Fame
What about the stiffness??

I noticed the high flex rating of 68. How does this translate in the real world?? Is it a harsh stick? Would it be recomended for someone with a shoulder injury??

I like the specs of this stick but I'm afraid the high stiffness could cause shoulder pain.

Thanks
 

Anton

Legend
The comments about the RDS001 poor serves have me concerned. My serve has always been my strong point of my game, and I'd hate to get a racquet that harms it. Any other comments about the serves? good, bad, indifferent.

I'm serving great with mine, but like I said the loop needs a little more weight to really get cracking.

Here is a vid of me serving 2 years ago with the older version of 001mp:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMhkmpp7vNE
 

carlos djackal

Professional
Carlos, Let us know how your decision goes and why. I too have been looking at both of these because of the great prices. I know they are completely different racquets, but for the price it doesn't seem like you can go wrong with either.

The comments about the RDS001 poor serves have me concerned. My serve has always been my strong point of my game, and I'd hate to get a racquet that harms it. Any other comments about the serves? good, bad, indifferent.




Oh, I'm still very confused right now......but basing on the posts that I have read I would lean on LM radical to be a better overall frame but I'm also worried about the string pattern 18x20 on my serve coz I rely on kick serves most of the time and I don't know how it would affect it......my experience with kblade 93 is not very satisfying....on serves that is...
 

rlee7777

Rookie
Oh, I'm still very confused right now......but basing on the posts that I have read I would lean on LM radical to be a better overall frame but I'm also worried about the string pattern 18x20 on my serve coz I rely on kick serves most of the time and I don't know how it would affect it......my experience with kblade 93 is not very satisfying....on serves that is...

I have the LM Rad MP and the RDS 001 90 Mid (not MP). The perceived weakness of the Yonex on the serves comes from the lack of power as compared to other frames. With the right strings, you can get plenty of pop and still have excellent control with the Yonex. If you have solid technique, this is less of an issue. The overall directional control of the RDS 001 is much better than the LM Rad MP and stability is high.
 

BC1

Professional
I hope the RDS 001 MP does also....

Does that mean you've made your decision and going with RDS 001 MP?

In addition, I'm now looking at the RDS 003, and liking the reviews I'm reading on it - it's a lighter, with more power, but you can lead it up if necessary. It's all so confusing!
 

carlos djackal

Professional
Does that mean you've made your decision and going with RDS 001 MP?

In addition, I'm now looking at the RDS 003, and liking the reviews I'm reading on it - it's a lighter, with more power, but you can lead it up if necessary. It's all so confusing!


nope, not yet but the tide has turned to RDS 001 MP, yeah I also considered RDS 003 along with TT Warrior but not on top of my lists, and yes it's all so confusing!
 
It's a keeper with lead in the upper hoop

Groundstrokes are very good, including slice - volleys above average for sure (bought new from TW 2 months ago).
As for serves, I initially only found good placement and nice action on my kicker. Pace was something I really had to work on. I strung it with Spiky shark 17 on mains @57 lbs and Tonic+ Nat gut @54 on crosses. Comfortable and spinny but hitting too short in the court.
I kept switching back to my PDR+. My serve is the foundation of my game. I have a big 1st serve and a hard hitting twist/kicker.

I put the usual strips of lead at 3 and 9. A fair improvement in stability but not too noticable with spin and depth. I removed the tape, thinking a frame should be workable in stock form, without playing around with lead.
And so I put my 001mp for sale in the classifieds with plans to get a Youtek prestige MP 18x20 which was a great demo (so was the BLX six one 95, btw).
But I decided to make a last minute modification today, and it made my 001MP truly pop on serve.
I remembered seeing a thread on here that showed some pics of Stannis Warwrinka's Head youtek Prestige frames. There were rediculous 12+ inch length strips of lead tape on BOTH of the top outer ridges of his hoops. Like, 9'oclock all the way to 3. I couldn't believe it. I encourage you to just go see it. I thought about what that would do to the 001... slower to get the frame around but probably nice plow, pace, and improved stability... so i tried it and that's exactly what I got. I only put one strip of lead on, from 10 all the way to 2, and only on one side of the hoop. Brought the weight up to 341 grams (12.03 ozs), including overgrip. The racquet is still headlight, but I haven't balanced/measured it to see the reduction in HL points.

I played against two 4.5s today - split sets with both, and served big... not just big, but I got used to and expected to drop my first serve in. There was no way to explain this percentage improvement on anything but the new lead strip. The frame was slightly less whippy and apparently this dialed in my timing and the extra mass drove the ball harder. But since I was more confident, I swung the racquet freely, which probably brought the swingspeed back up to par.

both of my opponents talked about what I'd done to the frame and agreed the rallies were heavier - those guys were hitting a bit late on me. It was a great experience... but if I ever let up and wasnt prepared or failed to swing freely, I would be late. Im ok with this caveat. I have so much more confidence to swing big.
I could add a lead rod in the handle to polarize the frame, and I may do that, but for now - I'm good, and considering getting a 2nd one. The price is too good.
Good luck with the 001mp - I'm now a believer in the value of customization.
 

Anton

Legend
Groundstrokes are very good, including slice - volleys above average for sure (bought new from TW 2 months ago).
As for serves, I initially only found good placement and nice action on my kicker. Pace was something I really had to work on. I strung it with Spiky shark 17 on mains @57 lbs and Tonic+ Nat gut @54 on crosses. Comfortable and spinny but hitting too short in the court.
I kept switching back to my PDR+. My serve is the foundation of my game. I have a big 1st serve and a hard hitting twist/kicker.

I put the usual strips of lead at 3 and 9. A fair improvement in stability but not too noticable with spin and depth. I removed the tape, thinking a frame should be workable in stock form, without playing around with lead.
And so I put my 001mp for sale in the classifieds with plans to get a Youtek prestige MP 18x20 which was a great demo (so was the BLX six one 95, btw).
But I decided to make a last minute modification today, and it made my 001MP truly pop on serve.
I remembered seeing a thread on here that showed some pics of Stannis Warwrinka's Head youtek Prestige frames. There were rediculous 12+ inch length strips of lead tape on BOTH of the top outer ridges of his hoops. Like, 9'oclock all the way to 3. I couldn't believe it. I encourage you to just go see it. I thought about what that would do to the 001... slower to get the frame around but probably nice plow, pace, and improved stability... so i tried it and that's exactly what I got. I only put one strip of lead on, from 10 all the way to 2, and only on one side of the hoop. Brought the weight up to 341 grams (12.03 ozs), including overgrip. The racquet is still headlight, but I haven't balanced/measured it to see the reduction in HL points.

I played against two 4.5s today - split sets with both, and served big... not just big, but I got used to and expected to drop my first serve in. There was no way to explain this percentage improvement on anything but the new lead strip. The frame was slightly less whippy and apparently this dialed in my timing and the extra mass drove the ball harder. But since I was more confident, I swung the racquet freely, which probably brought the swingspeed back up to par.

both of my opponents talked about what I'd done to the frame and agreed the rallies were heavier - those guys were hitting a bit late on me. It was a great experience... but if I ever let up and wasnt prepared or failed to swing freely, I would be late. Im ok with this caveat. I have so much more confidence to swing big.
I could add a lead rod in the handle to polarize the frame, and I may do that, but for now - I'm good, and considering getting a 2nd one. The price is too good.
Good luck with the 001mp - I'm now a believer in the value of customization.

Like I said needs lead 2 to 10, but it sounds like you put way too much on - cut it up into pieces and spread it out.

I have about 2g total there.
 
Probably too much, yes. Played against another 4.5 today and fared worse - at least the serve was on though - two DFs in two sets... excellent for me. But I was starting to hit long on forehands, which made me more conservative on short balls and instead of putting them away I hit'em hard more toward the center, got to net and was then routinely passed. I also began to swing late on the FH side...

I'll probably split it up to three strips at 10, 12, and 2.
 
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