Rafa24
Hall of Fame
How many RG finals has Fed been in since 2011??? LOL
He's made 5 in his career and won 1. Nadal made 5 wimbledons and won 2.
To think federer was so close...
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He's made 5 in his career and won 1. Nadal made 5 wimbledons and won 2.
Tennisanity
Legend
WTF??? This was about Rafa, not Fed. I said that Nadal usually falls off after FO as has been shown in the last 5 years of history. This was not about Fed. But if you want to go there 18 > 15
Druss
Hall of Fame
The Stanimal will show up on Sunday.
The Stanimal can show up all he wants, but this is not the AO or any HC event....this is the clay GOAT's FAVOURED surface, where I believe he's only lost once playing at prime level, and he is definitely playing at, or extremely close to that level.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Win tomorrow would be a huge confidence boost to already confident 2017 Nadal.
Nadal is 70% confidence, 30% the rest.
With that, he could easily close to within 2 of RF before end of 2015, and being healthy (how may be questionable) and 5 years younger than RF, if I had the nick name like yours, I would not be so overconfident with the overall end result...
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
He's had real challengers so far at RG?
Druss
Hall of Fame
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I am not saying 1-set challengers, but the whole match?
And yes, even if Thiem has showed up this time, 1 challenger in 6 matches...c'mon
Let's see tomorrow. I give it 60/40 advantage to Nadal, however, if 2015 Wawrinka shows up, Adios LaDecima.
Fedeonic
Hall of Fame
Nadal was really confident in 2012, but an injury derailed him. He's no spring chicken anymore, remember he's 31. Personally I can't see Nadal going on to win another Slam this season if Federer keeps playing like early 2017, especially if the latter get the 19th.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
No, really, not actually. Nadal has won Wimbledon and the USO. Don't know what he will do this year but he is the best player right now.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
It's not a foregone conclusion that Rafa is going to beat Stan tomorrow man. While he's an overwhelming favorite, Stan is one guy that can pose problems for him if he shows up in Stanimal mode. I don't think Stan will win, but it's not like he has no chance... He's 3-0 in slam finals, and beat Rafa in one of those as well..
Fed should have probably played FO to get a lot of points. However, Nadal would have won this tournament either way (unless Stanimal strikes again!).
I just hope that Fed retains the high level he displayed through the first quarter of the season and plays that aggressive and free game on grass. Wimbledon will be so exciting with Fed, Nadal, Murray and Stan coming into form.
I just hope that Fed retains the high level he displayed through the first quarter of the season and plays that aggressive and free game on grass. Wimbledon will be so exciting with Fed, Nadal, Murray and Stan coming into form.
Teniludius
New User
Both Fed and Nadal are favorites to win more majors. So much depends on whether Djokovic bounces back--my hunch is that he will. He has the power to own Nadal (and Fed too, though we haven't seen him against the Neo-Backhand). Both Nadal and Federer have gone through these head-slumps in the past, which affects their shots, confidence, and execution. Perhaps Djoker should play some lower level tournaments so that he can get some wins and trophies under his belt and build his confidence back up.
Tennisanity
Legend
Actually you're wrong. Who cares if Nadal won Wimbledon back in 2010. He hasn't won since and has been a non-factor in the last 5 years. Those are the data which cannot be denied.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
This debate is a waste of time. Nadal is currently playing very well. We will soon find out how long that lasts.
Tennisanity
Legend
It's a waste of time because you make meaningless statements like we don't know what Nadal's gonna do. Uh, duhhhhh. We don't know how anyone is actually gonna do. But if you want to predictions you look at history. In recent history Nadal has been a complete non-factor at Wimbledon since 2012. Ask Rosol, Darcis, Kyrgios. By the way in many of those years he won the FO (in dominant fashion at that) and then disappeared at Wimbledon. Those are the data which cannot be denied.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
tbh i hear what your saying and given his track record at wimbledon, it holds up, but i'm sure if someone had said a few years ago that rafa would reach teh AO final in 2017, i'm sure many would have laughed as well.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
I'd be careful if I were you tbh. being so emphatic as if you've seen a crystal ball never bodes well. stats can't be denied ofc, but idt tennis lives or dies by stats all the time
Tennisanity
Legend
Well you have to go back and follow the discussion. I'm not saying Nadal won't win for sure. I'm saying he's probably not the favourite regardless of how well he does at FO. Recent history has shown that. Doesn't mean it's guaranteed, but unlikely.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Who ever said Nadal was going to win Wimbledon? Are you confusing me with some other poster?
My only point is that Nadal has returned to very high levels of tennis and there is no evidence that is about to disappear. We will soon find out how much he can win.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
mte
Tennisanity
Legend
You said there is no evidence his current high is over. Completely meaningless. There is no evidence that Thiem won't win Wimbledon either. No evidence for anything. Yeah we will find out if Thiem wins Wimbledon. So what? Who cares. Meaningless blather. I've noticed that about you, you often make completely meaningless statements and then argue relentlessly on them.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Don't be silly. Stan will be too tired. Nadal has won this already.
This is clay. Nadal has this in the bag. You can start celebrating. No need to be nervous. Andy almost despatched Stan on his weakest surface, just imagine what carnage there will be on Sunday when Rafa enters his own court.
Reptilian Schizo
Rookie
Lol @ the word carnage
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
We've been through this before. Stop the personal insults. When you do that it gets reported and your posts deleted.
Tennisanity
Legend
What personal insults? All I said was your statement is meaningless.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Feel free to ignore them.
Tennisanity
Legend
I'll feel free to reply if I see fit. Rather, it's up to you to ignore me fella.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Just make sure you've learned your lessons from prior encounters and avoid personal attacks. You should know that by now.
Tennisanity
Legend
Please show me where I have made a personal attack on you? LOL.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
That's such a modest prediction, especially since Rafa's been so dominant on grass and HC these past few years. When was the last year he won a grass title? When was the last year he won a HC title? Please remind us....
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
True. But he came pretty close at AO. I don't think he's got much chance in Wimby but if he keeps the current level he would be a favorite for the USO.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
You're assuming these bombs will land in. Thiem was unloading all day off both wings today. The problem was most of his shots sailed way long or were smothered in the bottom of the net. Stan can implode the same way.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
But you can't look at it like that. This is 2017 and it's a revived Nadal and Federer with a weak field and Djokovic and Murray out of sorts(especially Djokovic.) Just because Nadal has been tossed out of W and hasn't won a grass title in years doesn't necessarily mean the same thing will happen this year. Plus, he just made the AO final on a faster hc and nearly won it so you can't discount him for the USO completely unless he falls off a lot is injured or unless Djokovic rises from the ashes and it's 2011 with respect to the Djokodal rivlary all over again. When was the last time Federer won the AO before 2017?
You just don't know what will happen and you really have to go week by week. Never in a million years did I think Federer would win the AO 2017 after a knee injury and six months off. Now either Federer can continue with that great form for a few months or he could show up at W and lose in R2 depending on his draw.
Day by day, week by week is the only way to analyze tennis.
sportsfan1
Legend
Well, since the next gen is unable to put up any resistance, it was upto old man fed to pick up the slack, and he took care of the business at oz. Then walloped rafa two more times for added measure, but clay looks to be beyond him now.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Good point.
Rafa24
Hall of Fame
LOL Fed has won 2 slams in 7 years and you are ragging on Nadal not winning Wimby since 2010.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Be prepared for La Decima, folks.
Much deserved by Rafa who has played at a very high level this year.
It'll be heartbreaking if he loses a second slam final, esp after his authoritative performance in the semi.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Gary Duane
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Use your list to ignore any username that starts with "king".
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
Heartbreaking for him, but what an amazing win it would be for Diesel!
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Deleted member 307496
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Especially with Wawrinka in the final who has yet to lose one.
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Guest
LOL.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
These are just coincidences or patterns, i don't know why we behave as though they matter. It's not like he has been in 10 finals and won them all. The sample size is too small in Wawrinka's case.
Nadal has never lost and RG final, has he. NINE finals, all won. Right ?
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Wonder if Stan will recover by tomorrow.
Until now the fanboys used to complain that Rafa could not recover, now they are all silent. No one talking about Stan's semi. I guess I will be told that Stan should have finished his match in three sets. Which never occurs to them when Bull goes the distance.
Fan boys implode ? I can think of the injury excuses, fatigue, age, how tough the match against Thiem was, how brutal the season was, the wind, the umpire calling time violations, Wawrinka, the French crowd, the Atlantic Ocean, etc etc.
TheAssassin
Legend
I am not Rafa's supporter. Probably will be in this match but I don't care about the final much.
Never write off Stanimal. The guy is quite fit himself.
Sardines
Hall of Fame
Well I personally hope Rafa plays Fed @ Wimbledon and the USO finals. On slow-medium courts, they played some of the best tennis matches, with that clash of styles. The 08 Wimby finals, 09 Oz, '17 Oz were top quality matches. And they simply should settle it @ the USO, since they've never played there. Tennis' golden age is already fading away. Djoker is on the decline, Murray and Stan picking scraps when the big 3 aren't around. I think '17 may be the last hurray for Fedal, and the Oz final showed us the type of tennis they are still capable of. Any tennis fan would love it.
RickDeckard
New User
I kind of think that Rafa will be very close again in the near future. Maybe even as of next year, he'll be in 17-18 Slam territory.
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