Why was Fed so close to losing US Open 2007 final to Nole?
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Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
So close losing the match in a straight set victory
Third Serve
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Djokovic played well for a first-time finalist, and also Fed wasn’t too impressive at the 2007 USO overall. Don’t get me wrong, he played well, but just a bit worse than in 2006.
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RaulRamirez
Legend
Although a reasonably close match, Roger still won in straights against the world #3 who was clearly on the rise.
I don't see the point.
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Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Didn't need to get into a second gear.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
90s clay?
NatF
Bionic Poster
Nah, he doesn't have the same flair. Budget version.
If this was vulture, what is beating Bautista Agut in Wimbledon SF or Pouille in AO SF???
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Because Novak is a really, really good tennis player. Same reason he beat him in Canada weeks earlier. There's not much between them on hard courts.
Same reason a prime Novak struggled to put away a 34 year old Federer in the 2015 final.
Same reason a prime Novak struggled to put away a 34 year old Federer in the 2015 final.
Jaitock1991
Hall of Fame
/ thread . It's exactly where this discussion will go 100 % of the time.
That was peak Fed tho, hardened from years of battling Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro, Wawrinka, and others
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
You can see the difference in the 2 Roddick matches. Even though Andy stole a set in 06, Roger was actually having more trouble containing him in 07.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
To be fair, Roddick definitely played better in 2007. I agree tho.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Downsizing everywhere!
Roddickulous1
Semi-Pro
To me, Roddick was pretty clearly better in the 07 match than the 06 one despite not winning a set.
I do think that in general 06 USO Fed is better than 07 USO Fed but as a standalone match, the 07 USO QF is one of Fed's best matches at the USO.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
IIRC Roddick only played good for 2 sets in 2006, and when I watch it I insta get furious at net rushes at 5-5 in the 3rd
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
He played better but it seemed like Roger was struggling with Andy's serve more than in 06. And the Roddick serve is the closest thing we have to a constant in a field full of variables. Although this might be based on nothing and a false memory from matches I haven't re-watched in a long time.
Returning seemed like just one of many aspects where Fed was just a little less sharp than the year before.
Breakpointerer
Legend
cuz beating mugs like Philippoussis, Baghdatis, Gonzales ain't gonna help you when real competition shows up.
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did I do it right
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
Fedr just wanted to present his darth Fedr outfit for a little while longer so he went into cruise mode.
Nadal_Django
Legend
Mono, bad back, the night was too dark...
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well he wasn't yet a father, so we know that's not it
Federev
Legend
So good. SnarkyNado
Breakpointerer
Legend
And Bogdanovicdon't forget Roddick and Nalbandian
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Funny that the guy who had no qualms to do this shot in the semi-final stage of a grand slam had the gall to criticize Nole for a rip return down matchpoint 2 years laterThis is the third thread on this 13 year old match in the last week. Only in Djokermania brains was this a "close" match.
And of course this "new user" is just another Nole-obsessive with triplicate accounts. So transparent- with your fourth account, do try harder.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Was he down a matchpoint when he hit that tweener?
He disrespected his opponent, and essentially told him he wasn't taking the match seriously, unlike Nole who had nothing to lose and hit that shot to stay alive.
There are too many to really do an exhaustive list, so I just covered the big ones
flutzingitaway
Semi-Pro
Only on TTW can a straight sets win be deemed close to losing. The only set Djokovic truly had on his racquet is the 1st. The 2nd set yeah he had chances to win, including set points, but I wouldn't call 2 set points on your opponents serve having the set in hand, and players often win sets from that spot.
Why didn't he win super easily? Well Djokovic is actually pretty good too you know, the future 17 and counting slam winner, and future 8 time and counting U.S Open finalist. And while not prime yet of course, he was already extremely good that year, winning 2 Masters and rising to world #3. He beat world #3 Roddick, world #2 Nadal, and world #1 Federer all in a row to win Canada just before the Open, which if I recall was one of only a handful of times that had happened to that point. I am the one surprised that you are surprised Federer did not automatically cruise to a 6-2, 6-2, 6-1 as you seemed to expect. I find it funny you would ask that question and not why did Djokovic have an even harder time with nearly 34 year old Federer in the 2015 U.S Open final and a nearly 38 year old Federer (even if Djokovic himself was now 32) in the 2019 Wimbledon final. Clear sign of bias and agenda IMO.
It also was a super windy day which affected the play of both players and made the match largely a crapshoot. Federer was mentally stronger, but both struggled with the conditions.
Why didn't he win super easily? Well Djokovic is actually pretty good too you know, the future 17 and counting slam winner, and future 8 time and counting U.S Open finalist. And while not prime yet of course, he was already extremely good that year, winning 2 Masters and rising to world #3. He beat world #3 Roddick, world #2 Nadal, and world #1 Federer all in a row to win Canada just before the Open, which if I recall was one of only a handful of times that had happened to that point. I am the one surprised that you are surprised Federer did not automatically cruise to a 6-2, 6-2, 6-1 as you seemed to expect. I find it funny you would ask that question and not why did Djokovic have an even harder time with nearly 34 year old Federer in the 2015 U.S Open final and a nearly 38 year old Federer (even if Djokovic himself was now 32) in the 2019 Wimbledon final. Clear sign of bias and agenda IMO.
It also was a super windy day which affected the play of both players and made the match largely a crapshoot. Federer was mentally stronger, but both struggled with the conditions.
flutzingitaway
Semi-Pro
And Federer wasn't even close to losing this particular match either. This thread is a joke altogether.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Or it can be someone else who changes who he is supporting all the time.
NatF
Bionic Poster
This poster is essentially the imbodiment of "Anyone but Fed" lol.
metsman
G.O.A.T.
Fedr played quite mediocre for a set and a half, but then raised his game big time at the end of the 2nd and 3rd to assert superiority. Didn't miss a single first serve after the set points in the 2nd, all Djokovic did wrong was miss a FH by a few centimeters. In the third, Fed hit some great shots in the last game.
But yeah if Djokovic hadn't choked, then Fed could have been in similar trouble to the Baghdatis match and from there Djokovic wouldn't have collapsed so while I'd still back Fed to win it would have been quite tough.
Far from Fed's best at the USO, and as noted the conditions were not great to play masterclass tennis. Still, I think the way Fed started that match was some proof that he was starting to slip, he was usually an automatic machine in the first sets. Brought a bit of that back the next year vs Djokovic at least.
While 07 USO Fed overall was better than 08 or 09, 07 definitely played the worst vs Djokovic.
But yeah if Djokovic hadn't choked, then Fed could have been in similar trouble to the Baghdatis match and from there Djokovic wouldn't have collapsed so while I'd still back Fed to win it would have been quite tough.
Far from Fed's best at the USO, and as noted the conditions were not great to play masterclass tennis. Still, I think the way Fed started that match was some proof that he was starting to slip, he was usually an automatic machine in the first sets. Brought a bit of that back the next year vs Djokovic at least.
While 07 USO Fed overall was better than 08 or 09, 07 definitely played the worst vs Djokovic.
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
And got straight setted by him in the preceding Cinci final.
JaoSousa
Hall of Fame
You forgot Bogdanovic, but yeah that was pretty good.
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
Why? Because Djokovic was on the cusp of his first slam. He won the AO 2008 in dominant fashion. He’s one of the greatest player of all time. He also knew he could take down Fed.
It could have been a classic match had Djokovic not choked away set points.
Ironically, they used to call him Chokovic.
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