Monte Carlo Draw Finally Out! Enjoy...
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BulletDodger
New User
Thanks for posting. Federer has a potential Nalbo quarterfinal meeting and a Djokovic semi...could be interesting.
A few interesting first rounders...
Querrey-Moya: Only interesting for the simple fact that there will be probably about 5 total backhands struck the entire match.
Safin-Malisse: Two paradoxical talents going at it. In the end, it'll come down to who is the bigger mental midget or who runs out of racquets...but a lot of shotmaking though, wouldnt mind seeing it.
A few interesting first rounders...
Querrey-Moya: Only interesting for the simple fact that there will be probably about 5 total backhands struck the entire match.
Safin-Malisse: Two paradoxical talents going at it. In the end, it'll come down to who is the bigger mental midget or who runs out of racquets...but a lot of shotmaking though, wouldnt mind seeing it.
Motherwasp
Semi-Pro
I'd like to see Murray vs Djokovic but Murray needs to try and get past Lopez first.
hyperwarrior
Professional
I don't know but why Roddick and Blake always skipped this event each years?
I think Murray and Gasquet are easier than for example Ferrer and Nalbandian, especially on this surface. So djoko can't complain.
ilovecarlos
Professional
Thanks CC!! I've been waiting for Carlos' return...hope he was practicing and not partying with that Floozie!! Vamos Carlos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gasquet if healthy is a tougher customer on clay than Murray.
Not sure if Murray can even beat Lopez in fact;I doubt it.
Blake has never played Monte Carlo in his career while Roddick played there years ago I believe.
boy querrey will get trounced by Moya but hey it's nice that he is trying to play on clay;same with Ginepri playing in Valencia.
Steffi-forever
Hall of Fame
Roddick wants to keep his good average : 431-134 0.763
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Cause they're wimps that don't want to get embarrassed.
If seeds hold, he has to get by Nalbandian first, and Nalbandian has always been troublesome for Federer. Fed could have to go through Nalbandian, Djokovic and Nadal to win. This could be a very good test to see where he is at headed into the French.
LeftyServe
Semi-Pro
Nadal potentially needs to go through Ancic, Ferrero, Ferrer, and then probably Davydenko or Almagro to reach the final....to meet Nalbandian.
Alexio92
Professional
I agree he does have a tough draw, but noone in the bottom half doesnt.
daddy
Legend
Soderling is not for underestimating but agree he should have won more convincingly on clay at home.
Nadal_Monfils
Semi-Pro
Murray-Djokovic would be a very interesting matchup in the 3rd round.
edberg505
Legend
Hopefully it's more competitive than previous encounters from last year. They were nothing short of straight beatdowns by Djokovic.
daddy
Legend
Well Joker seems to like Murrays defensive game, it allowes him to build his point well and he does not come to the net that often to be passed. Lets see if Murray can alter his game as he said when he beat Roger. I am curious to see if he can add a touch of attacking style to match Djokovic, otherwise he will be up against it.
Explain to me why you think Nalbandian will reach the final. I like Nalbandian a lot, but I see federer and Djokovic as the two favourites to reach it. Please explain why you disagree, or are you just trying to annoy Djoko's and Fed's fans?
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
successortt
New User
...... Or he could be a Nalbandian fan maybe?? If you watch tennis then you'd know that Federer always has a hard time with Nalbandian. Add to that federer is'nt playin up to his standards, I'd say Nalbandian has a real good shot. Heck, Fed's is losing sets to players ranked below 100.
Just because YOU see fed an Djokovic as the two favorites doesn't mean everyone else does...lol
Same reason as every other year. It's a long time to be living out of a suitcase...between now and the end of Wimbledon, in Europe, far from "home".
daddy
Legend
Well yes this is pretty much the truth. They'll show up latter for one or couple of the masters, lose early in RG and get some rest prior the beg of 'real' season. Same as if they did not show up. And yet someone else was implying here that Wimbledon slowed the grass down to avoid a strike of dirtballers, when I pointed out that many hc/grass specialist do not give a damn about clay ( because they have no chance ) I was dissmised. Thanks sir !
I hope people will recognise themselves, simi this is not ment directly to you of course.
Tempest344
Professional
Interesting Haas is playing here
clay is not his thing
good on him for it though
Almagro and Andreev I think will have to watched
one of them will go far perhaps
clay is not his thing
good on him for it though
Almagro and Andreev I think will have to watched
one of them will go far perhaps
Cause they're wimps that don't want to get embarrassed.
Yup, just like Gasquet who bailed at the Davis Cup.
I agree that they both should at least try. It is, however, only a lousy clay tournament. :twisted: No one in the USA cares anything about clay, since it is only 1/3 of the season.
stormholloway
Legend
Nice to see Ancic in the draw, despite the fact that he'll get destroyed by Nadal if he wins his opener.
It's sad to see Querrey as the only American in the draw. If you're a professional athlete, why wouldn't you want to go to Monte Carlo to play tennis? It's beautiful there.
It's sad to see Querrey as the only American in the draw. If you're a professional athlete, why wouldn't you want to go to Monte Carlo to play tennis? It's beautiful there.
daddy
Legend
Well not really. Nica is much more beautifull, in MC you can not do anything much. Its really one of those things, like the fancy restaurants. You go there and pay a ton for nothing much and then go buy a burger afterwords to eat something.
stormholloway
Legend
Well Blake and Roddick aren't exactly poor. They can afford Monte Carlo.
You don't think this is a beautiful city? And what is Nica? Are you referring to Nice?
You don't think this is a beautiful city? And what is Nica? Are you referring to Nice?
daddy
Legend
Yes it looks great this way though nothing much really. I wonder if you have ever been there? If you have, you'd know what am I talking about. And yes I was reffering to Nice, great city.
Btw - I can post pics from few greek villages which would take your breath away, pics dont really tell you whats it like.
Ps - about the $$ - I can afford it but I can really hit a slot club here in Belgrade also. Unles seeing a million dollars cars and houses and yachts does it for ya. Id rather do somethign that sightseeing or if Im going to do it Ill hit Athens.
Btw - I can post pics from few greek villages which would take your breath away, pics dont really tell you whats it like.
Ps - about the $$ - I can afford it but I can really hit a slot club here in Belgrade also. Unles seeing a million dollars cars and houses and yachts does it for ya. Id rather do somethign that sightseeing or if Im going to do it Ill hit Athens.
stormholloway
Legend
Well there are other places in that area that I'd rather be, Nice included.
BUT, if you compare Monte Carlo to the other prestigious ATP tournaments, it's at the top of the list in terms of environmental beauty. The Medterranean is still the Mediterranean.
And Andy Roddick can afford the amenities the city has to offer.
BUT, if you compare Monte Carlo to the other prestigious ATP tournaments, it's at the top of the list in terms of environmental beauty. The Medterranean is still the Mediterranean.
And Andy Roddick can afford the amenities the city has to offer.
daddy
Legend
I have just one comment. A great city to go to and see the things it has to offer ONCE. Nothing much to do there, day or night. You can go to some restaurants or clubs and thats about it. I guess the closed community thing and low taxes suit the rich & famous and that is why its so popular.
Nice, that is another story. Great beach, nice and frendly people, down to earth. Great night clubs and all that just 5 miles from Monte Carlo. And not to talk about the prices but you can relax in Nice to put it that way.
stormholloway
Legend
Great advice. I've always wanted to go to Nice.
doubles seeding
Is there a doubles equivalent to the entry ranking system that seeds singles players? Can't find it anywhere. If it doesn't exist, why are the Bryans seeded first, and Erlich/Ram second?
It will be last weeks Davis Cup all over again for the Bryans. To get to the quarterfinals, they need to get past TWO French teams. Either Benneteau/Mahut or Mathieu/Santoro in the second round (they have a bye in the first round), and most likely Clement/Llodra in the third round. Almost makes me want to hop on an airplane to see some good dubs. To bad I have to work.
Is there a doubles equivalent to the entry ranking system that seeds singles players? Can't find it anywhere. If it doesn't exist, why are the Bryans seeded first, and Erlich/Ram second?
It will be last weeks Davis Cup all over again for the Bryans. To get to the quarterfinals, they need to get past TWO French teams. Either Benneteau/Mahut or Mathieu/Santoro in the second round (they have a bye in the first round), and most likely Clement/Llodra in the third round. Almost makes me want to hop on an airplane to see some good dubs. To bad I have to work.
daddy
Legend
Race in doubles is calculated for teams. Rankings are calculated for individual players so at the atp site / rankings you can find that these are currect top 10 players in doubles :
1st Bryan , B. 5325
1st Bryan , M. 5325
3rd Knowles , M. 4500
4th Nestor , D. 4260
5th Vizner , P. 3995
6th Erlich , J. 3510
6th Ram , A. 3510
8th Knowle , J. 3445
9th Aspelin , S. 3445
10th Zimonjic , N. 3425
I think they do this because if the players chnge partners, they still know how to calculate their mutual points and where to seed them.
http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/rankings/
Nadal_Freak
Banned
I prefer the way I explained it better. :lol:Yup, just like Gasquet who bailed at the Davis Cup.
daddy
Legend
I am not the most informed guy about doubles, but they do keep doubles rankings only for single players as you saw, not for teams. I guess they have a way to calculate if for example Llodra plays this tourney with Clement and the next one with Bennetau - they surely have a way of calculating how good will they be based on their separate ( single ) rankings in doubles list and make the seedings according to that.
Leelord337
Hall of Fame
make your picks here for the racket bracket:
http://challenge.atptennis.com/atp/bracket.php
better make them before 4am today
unlike the last few tournaments, i think its going to be a federer/nadal final
anybody gonna play? or is it just me?
http://challenge.atptennis.com/atp/bracket.php
better make them before 4am today
unlike the last few tournaments, i think its going to be a federer/nadal final
anybody gonna play? or is it just me?
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Tempest344
Professional
^
Mathieu's game suits clay better probably
Mathieu's game suits clay better probably
Haven't the slightest how the seed. Just ran the numbers and this is what I came up with.
Using the "ATP Individual Doubles Rankings For 4/14/08" from http://stevegtennis.com/rankings/2008/db041408.txt
The seeded players, their ranking points, and combined total
seeded 1, Bryan/Bryan 5325/5325 = 10650 (1)
seeded 2, Erlich/Ram 3510/3510 = 7021 (4)
seeded 3, Nestor/Zimonjic 4260/3425 = 7685 (2)
seeded 4, Bhupathi/Knowles 3050/4500 = 7550 (3)
seeded 5, Aspelin/Knowle 3445/3445 = 6890 (5)
seeded 6, Dlouhy/Vizner 2750/3995 = 6745 (6)
seeded 7, Clement/Llodra 3180/3125 = 6305 (7)
seeded 8, Bjorkman/Ullyett 1915/2625 = 4540 ( 8 )
next Hanley/Paes 2685/1845 = 4530
So...except for Erlich/Ram, seems to hold where their combined ranking points determine their seed position. Perhaps Erlich and Ram have been "rewarded" for their performance/results for this current season, (Aus Open and PLO). They are the top ranked "team" this year, so far. But then, the third seeded Nestor/Zimonjic are only the seventh ranked team this year. Who know? Nobody cares about doubles anyway, right?
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