Richie Rich
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who gives a s...
about fed's racquet? around here? :mrgreen:
who gives a s...
kinda weird for him to use the newest wilson racquets each time they realease something new. like the ncode, kfactor, blx... idk seems odd for a pro.
who gives a s...
People who see Federer, want to play like Federer, who desire to be pro, who haven't gotten along in their own tennis development to lose the "hero worship" yet. If this isn't you, fine, so what. There's nothing wrong with people who see pros and are motivated by pros hoping to one day to get close to the pro level. Further, it's natural to want to take "what the pros use" to see just how much one's self can do with them. It's using the pro as a benchmark and seeing how close you can come to it. It's a heck of a lot more fun and motivating to try and reach the level of a pro than it is a measly 4.0 status. If you try for a 4.0 you'll probably reach it and that's probably all you'll ever be. If you try to be a pro you'll probably end up coming up short and even if you settle at a 4.0, hey, at least you tried.
Going by this media release, sounds like he wont just be using a pj
No, it just sounds as though he's happy to lie about what he uses in order to make Wilson happy.
No, it just sounds as though he's happy to lie about what he uses in order to make Wilson happy.
...its like saying "im getting the same haircut as Fed and maybe I will improve my game"
Yeah, but you don't hit the ball with your hair do you?
Wilson makes the rackets specifically to Federer's specs. Once the BLX comes out, you can buy it and use a racket similar to what Federer uses (give/take some weight, possibly stiffness.)
I just dont get this worship!? just because some pro plays with a certain stick doesnt mean ****!
I couldnt care less if fed is playing with k-90, BLX or what ever. hes not using a magic-stick like some ppl believe. using the pro´s equipment wont make you any better.. its like saying "im getting the same haircut as Fed and maybe I will improve my game":roll:
So you mean Federer didn't use a "real" PS 6.0 85 but it was actually a POG OS with a PS 6.0 85 paintjob? :shock:believe what you want to believe....you federer wannabees just go out and buy the racquet that has the same paint job as fed, because thats all your going to get is a paint job...that same goes for just about any pro's racquet and other gear....
Yes, because your hair style helps you to get more plow-through, spin, power, control, etc. on the ball. :-?I just dont get this worship!? just because some pro plays with a certain stick doesnt mean ****!
I couldnt care less if fed is playing with k-90, BLX or what ever. hes not using a magic-stick like some ppl believe. using the pro´s equipment wont make you any better.. its like saying "im getting the same haircut as Fed and maybe I will improve my game":roll:
Actually, no. Federer wears totally custom shoes made by Nike just for his feet. They are only made to look like the latest Vapors from the outside. That is a certainty.Roger wears the same Vapor Oreos that you and I buy.
they actually play very differently.
The ncode sucked by the way.
What a load of BLX!!
He has used the PS Tour 90 for years and will continue to do so until he dies, its the racket he loves.
In order for Wilson to keep selling rackets they change the PJ every few years and tell you Fed is gonna update. Some people who went out a bought the K90 refuse to accept that fed has never used it, I heard directly from a very good friend of Fed's that he has used the PS Tour 90 under different PJ's for years. This argument will go on forever for as long as people pretending to know and Fed wanna be's wanna use the same stick as him. Go on **** and buy some very old sticks and save some money!!
If he is telling the truth I like that. Sampras always used the PS 85. When new racquets came out he said he wouldn't allow a paint job. I feel at least 90 percent certain that Fed used the K90. Fed says he is switching I believe him.
I hate the whole dishonest paint job scam but understand its necessary to try to meet company goals.
Of course one never knows but maybe the BLX is simply going to be a summation of several little changes that Roger has incorporated into his own sticks over time, if he has done so.
We need another Sampras - someone who obviously refuses to switch.
oh I forgot its the racquet that makes him play like that. what if I play with Feds magic-stick and get the Agassi haircut then??
Roger wears the same Vapor Oreos that you and I buy.
Actually, no. Federer wears totally custom shoes made by Nike just for his feet. They are only made to look like the latest Vapors from the outside. That is a certainty.
In fact, the Vapor series have always been very narrow shoes even though Federer has very wide feet.
Yes, because your hair style helps you to get more plow-through, spin, power, control, etc. on the ball. :-?
In effect, what you're saying is that a racquet doesn't make one bit of difference in one's game. If that were the case, why did you choose the racquet that you use instead of the $19.99 special from Wal-Mart?
Yes, because your hair style helps you to get more plow-through, spin, power, control, etc. on the ball. :-?
In effect, what you're saying is that a racquet doesn't make one bit of difference in one's game. If that were the case, why did you choose the racquet that you use instead of the $19.99 special from Wal-Mart?
People who see Federer, want to play like Federer, who desire to be pro, who haven't gotten along in their own tennis development to lose the "hero worship" yet. If this isn't you, fine, so what. There's nothing wrong with people who see pros and are motivated by pros hoping to one day to get close to the pro level. Further, it's natural to want to take "what the pros use" to see just how much one's self can do with them. It's using the pro as a benchmark and seeing how close you can come to it. It's a heck of a lot more fun and motivating to try and reach the level of a pro than it is a measly 4.0 status. If you try for a 4.0 you'll probably reach it and that's probably all you'll ever be. If you try to be a pro you'll probably end up coming up short and even if you settle at a 4.0, hey, at least you tried.
they actually play very differently.
The ncode sucked by the way.
Actually, no. Federer wears totally custom shoes made by Nike just for his feet. They are only made to look like the latest Vapors from the outside. That is a certainty.
In fact, the Vapor series have always been very narrow shoes even though Federer has very wide feet.
"Wilson will always provide me with the best racquet for my game with the latest technology.”
“This change will provide me with the added feel and performance I want to further enhance my game in 2010 and beyond.”
You pick who authored these words--
A. Swiss Native Roger Federer?
B. Wilson Sporting Goods Marketing Division?
(Sounds like marketing-corporate-speak to me.)
are there some people out there that really still uses 90sq frames???
gosh
So the racquet DOES matter? I agree. That's why I use the K90. I like playing with it more than any other racquet. The fact that I have the same playing style as Federer is probably one reason why both of us like the same racquet.when did I say the racquet doesnt matter?? if you like your racquet why change it? buying Feds racquet wont make you play like him no more than getting the same haircut, thats my point! dont buy a frame because your favorit player uses it, thats pure stupidity..
oh and I play with ps 6.1 classic because its the ultimate stick for me, I couldnt care less how old the model is, it beats every frame made today in every aspect, thats why!
You pick who authored these words--
A. Swiss Native Roger Federer?
B. Wilson Sporting Goods Marketing Division?
(Sounds like marketing-corporate-speak to me.)
The fact that I have the same playing style as Federer is probably one reason why both of us like the same racquet.
LMAO- of course you have the same style as Roger Federer - or does he have the same style at you? I can just imagine the guys who see you playing from afar asking "is that Federer or Breakpoint? I can't tell- they play so much alike.":roll:
are there some people out there that really still use 90sq frames???
gosh
True that it probably didnt come out of his mouth, but i dont think they would release that statement without him at least reading and approving it to some extent..
Well, since I started playing tennis many years before Federer was even born and have been using the same style all this time, I have to say that Federer is the one that plays like me.LMAO- of course you have the same style as Roger Federer - or does he have the same style at you?
So you've seen me play then? Because that's EXACTLY what people say. I hear it so often that it's embarrassing.I can just imagine the guys who see you playing from afar asking "is that Federer or Breakpoint? I can't tell- they play so much alike.":roll:
Yes, exactly!i think theres a difference between playing style and having strokes/movement that looks like federer.. you can have a style that is all court, single handed backhand, eastern forehand, but not look like federer.. i think thats what breakpoint is getting at
I just dont get this worship!
just because some pro plays with a certain stick doesnt mean ****
Well, since I started playing tennis many years before Federer was even born and have been using the same style all this time, I have to say that Federer is the one that plays like me.
So you've seen me play then? Because that's EXACTLY what people say. I hear it so often that it's embarrassing.
No, I don't follow through like Tracy Austin. I follow-through across my body, more like Federer. But I don't follow-through behind my head like Nadal.BP, you mean you also follow through like federer and all the modern players?
i don't follow through like today's players. my follow through would end like tracy austin's in this clip (at the 22 seconds mark), where as today players would follow through until the racquet nearly touches their back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoYJwnDKiEg
No, I don't follow through like Tracy Austin. I follow-through across my body, more like Federer. But I don't follow-through behind my head like Nadal.
That's fine but it doesn't matter what you get or not. It's not about you. If you don't need this type of motivation to pick up a racquet and go play tennis then you don't. Who is going to be better a player often has to do with motivation (ie what gives the drive to work harder and harder etc.). By motivation I simply mean motivation. How it comes, what form it takes, whether it makes sense or not is really very moot.
True unless you need it mentally to bring your "A" game. It is no different than the usual superstitions that permeate athletics at every level. While the superstition in and of itself doesn't do anything, the piece of mind it gives often can be a difference maker. It's not logical but it is reality none the less.
so you are saying playing Feds magic stick is a motivation to become a better player? thats complete nonesense to me:shock:
Sure it is nonsense to you but you aren't one who derives motivation from something like this. One would hope that as one progresses in tennis ability this tendency diminishes accordingly but that's not yours or my call to make.
it does sound plausible to me..
it's all about mindset,when people get new things,in their minds are like 'aha,i've got my new racquet,now i can improve my game etc etc'
Let's think about Fed's rackets over time. I think there's enough circumstantial evidence to say that Federer has used what we know as the retail K90 for some time, and certainly with the nCode pj because the retail n90 and Fed's n90 were clearly different.
It's certainly no mistake if the K90 is actually Fed's stick. OK, he will have a slightly different lay-up as his rackets are from Wilson's pro room and have had some (minor) mods done to them. But let's not forget that the K90 is only one racket out of maybe 20+ in the K-Factor range. The money paid to Fed is not solely due to the fact that he plays with a K90 (although you could argue that the white, black and red models are more associated with him), it's because he is associated with Wilson.
The release of the K90 is effectively when Wilson for the first time in years were selling Fed's actual racket, to all intents and purposes. Problem is, in reality it's a bit too demanding for most people who bought it. So now, Wilson have to tweak the K90 and make it more accessible - enter the Bollocks 90.
I think there is no way than any technological "advances" on the Bollocks frames have been replicated on Fed's racket. With the K90, the stars were aligned and we no longer had a world #1 with a pj. As soon as the Bollocks range is released we are back in the dark days of Fed with a pj.
In any case I'm sure that Wilson will sell a huge amount of these rackets and when the tennis-playing public realise this, this message board will be just like it was with the nCode pj debacle, and history will repeat itself.
My follow through would end like Tracy Austin's in this clip (at the 22 seconds mark), where as today players would follow through until the racquet nearly touches their back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoYJwnDKiEg
My follow-through is also more like Tracy Austin's. I think it has to do with racquet-head speed. It's also a matter of how we were taught.