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Babolat Official

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I feel that the new grommet system looks slick but with the bumper guard so slim, the grommet isn't protected on ground strikes.

Interesting. Are you stringing the Pure Aeros with the proper pattern? There is a symbol at the top of the frame letting you know where to start the crosses so that the strings sit in the grooves of the bumper guard and are not exposed.

Would Babolat consider making a 98" or 97" version of the Pure Aero? Just curious; it would be interesting to hit with a slightly smaller head size version, with the same/similar power and spin.

I can't say I have personally heard of any plans regarding a 98"/97" Pure Aero, but I will relay your feedback to our product team.


Can you confirm what the Swingweight for the pure Aero Plus is at this point ?? thanks

I'll see if I can get my hands on a Pure Aero Plus and throw it on the RDC.

Nice day for your Aero Storm wielding pros. Sock and Johnson both played in finals today.

I'm looking forward to an upcoming announcement on a potential new aero storm.

I don't have any details on the future of that frame at the moment, but I can let you know if I hear anything.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Nice day for your Aero Storm wielding pros. Sock and Johnson both played in finals today.

I'm looking forward to an upcoming announcement on a potential new aero storm.
Why is Jack Sock playing with Blacked out racket like he is testing some kind of Prototype New model ? Is it truly a new model ?
 

djNEiGht

Legend
Interesting. Are you stringing the Pure Aeros with the proper pattern? There is a symbol at the top of the frame letting you know where to start the crosses so that the strings sit in the grooves of the bumper guard and are not exposed.

Yes I am stringing according to the grooves. I'll post a picture when available.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
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Interesting. Are you stringing the Pure Aeros with the proper pattern? There is a symbol at the top of the frame letting you know where to start the crosses so that the strings sit in the grooves of the bumper guard and are not exposed.



I don't have any details on the future of that frame at the moment, but I can let you know if I hear anything.

Mr. Babolat you might be interested knowing Wilczynski has switched to Pure Aero. he was using Wilson before so he must have been very impressed. and he is in the final of Regional, and playing better than ever with 6000 RPMs on his groundies......this racket and solico hyperG must be deadly.

http://www.gostanford.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30600&SPID=127021&SPSID=749967&DB_OEM_ID=30600
 
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eaglesburg

Guest
Luxilon Rough, IMO best string out there, second is RPM Blast, the reason I favor Lux is that I can also hit flat with it, and when it dies it's not dead like RPM, although it's a phenomenal string, I turned my friend onto it and he has it in all of his 10 racquets! He's a racquetaholic!
To me rough feels too stiff and boardy. Smooth feels just fine though. Rpm blast I hate even more, might actually be the worst string I have ever tried.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
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djNEiGht

Legend
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Started my mods. TW 1.5 leather grip with full size heat shrink. need to weigh and balance. Previous was 11.9 8 pts HL. Feels faster on quick net/volley exchanges. close to weight and balance to my i.Prestige and PK98.
 
I feel that the new grommet system looks slick but with the bumper guard so slim, the grommet isn't protected on ground strikes.
I agree with you. The old grommet system on the APD 2013 had deeper grooves so that the string does not get scratched up on groundstrokes that scrape the ground. I wish they had kept the old grommet system as it seems sturdier and protects the strings more.
 

SublimeTennis

Professional
To me rough feels too stiff and boardy. Smooth feels just fine though. Rpm blast I hate even more, might actually be the worst string I have ever tried.

I find it AMAZING how you can get 100 tennis players, give them IE those three strings, and they'll all have different opinions. I hit pretty hard, so Rough gives me the best control yet, regular Lux Power I can't handle, it's too powerful, and as I say RPM Blast is, well for me probably the best spin string out there, but there's the rub, you HAVE to always hit with topspin. If I were like most players these days with a large racquet bombing from the baseline, it would be RPM all day, but I love to hit flat and topspin, Rough gives me the best results without being too powerful.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
@Babolat Official , I have noticed on the latest packaging of Babolat VS Gut and Tonic that BT7 is not on the packaging. Does that hopefully mean that you are no long using the BT7 structure and gone back to the thinner 14 ribbons?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
I think they went for aerodynamics or sleek looks over sturdiness and practicality.

I agree with you. The old grommet system on the APD 2013 had deeper grooves so that the string does not get scratched up on groundstrokes that scrape the ground. I wish they had kept the old grommet system as it seems sturdier and protects the strings more.
 

Babolat Official

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I agree with you. The old grommet system on the APD 2013 had deeper grooves so that the string does not get scratched up on groundstrokes that scrape the ground. I wish they had kept the old grommet system as it seems sturdier and protects the strings more.

Thanks for the feedback. I will relay it to the product team!

@Babolat Official , I have noticed on the latest packaging of Babolat VS Gut and Tonic that BT7 is not on the packaging. Does that hopefully mean that you are no long using the BT7 structure and gone back to the thinner 14 ribbons?

I'm assuming this was on a recently purchased packaging? I will check in with the product specialists.

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Started my mods. TW 1.5 leather grip with full size heat shrink. need to weigh and balance. Previous was 11.9 8 pts HL. Feels faster on quick net/volley exchanges. close to weight and balance to my i.Prestige and PK98.

Are you playing bare leather? Or overgrip with the leather?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster

There's the PA...
Where did you get this great recording......??? they only had Live webcam that I thought doesn't record anything.............. There was a Insane Great point at 4-4 in the 3rd set by David......it was probably the most athletic point I have ever seen in college tennis.
 

Georgo

New User
I can measure one soon and report back the results. Also, since it is a synthetic replacement grip, it's important to note that those can compress a bit with use.

I have just measured my APD (2005) with the base grip taken off, the 4 1/2 (L4) grip is 33,3mm x 29,3mm.
 

Babolat Official

Hall of Fame
For the most part bare leather. Sometimes I'll play with Tourna Tac. Often times though the OG adds a bit too much in grip size for me

Understandable there. I haven't tried leather or even bare leather for that matter on the Pure Aero or Tour yet, but I may have to check it out.
 
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djNEiGht

Legend
Understandable there. I haven't tried leather or even bare leather for that manner on the Pure Aero or Tour yet, but I may have to check it out.
I enjoy the bevel feel of the leather and another bonus for me is that it adds some weight to the handle. I'd rather do this instead of adding lead inside the handle or tape.
 

Sparky

Semi-Pro
I would buy babolat just because they have a great guy like Daniel here. It baffles me that other companies don't do the same thing.

Ditto. I was MIA for about a half year, I'm very disappointed to learn he is no longer posting at Babolat Official.
 

g4driver

Legend
Babolat Official,

Other than color and Nadal's
Inked signature, are there are any physical differences between the 12 pack 2015 Pure Drive bag and the 12 pack 2015 Pure Aero bag?

My five year old 12 pack bag finally broke after years of great use. I don't play with Babolat frames, but I like your bags and was I can't tell any physical difference looking at the two bags.

Thanks,
 

Babolat Official

Hall of Fame
Yes, this on recent packaging. Thank you for looking into this.

I checked in with our string specialists, and although the packages no longer mention BT7, the strings still feature the recent BT7 construction.

Quick question, will a Babolat Pure Aero Tour Plus be coming out? Thanks so much!

I know several people have been interested in a Pure Aero Tour Plus. Although I have no news of one coming out soon, I can relay the interest to our racket team.

Babolat Official,

Other than color and Nadal's
Inked signature, are there are any physical differences between the 12 pack 2015 Pure Drive bag and the 12 pack 2015 Pure Aero bag?

My five year old 12 pack bag finally broke after years of great use. I don't play with Babolat frames, but I like your bags and was I can't tell any physical difference looking at the two bags.

Thanks,

Your eyes did not deceive you! The Pure Aero and Pure Drive bag lines are only cosmetically different. The Strike and Control bags differ from the Aero and Drive bags, though.
 

Babolat Official

Hall of Fame
I have just measured my APD (2005) with the base grip taken off, the 4 1/2 (L4) grip is 33,3mm x 29,3mm.

Hey Georgo,

I measured the grip size on my 4 3/8 Pure Aero Tour. With just the base grip on, the grip size near the middle of the handle was 4 3/8 ". Near the base, it was 4 1/2". I unwrapped the grip, and the bare handle was 4" in circumference along the entire length. Upon rewrapping, I used less overlap and ended up cutting off the excess.

I still prefer a grip 2, but looks like the grip was wrapped with a bit more overlap near the butt, which made it feel bigger for me especially because of the way I hold the handle.

Upon reading your measurement right now, it looks like you actually measured the grip itself, not the handle. Were you more interested in the size of the replacement grip?
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
Babolat String Pricing Question: Why is the Origin string so pricey (polyamide) and the Spirltek string (polyamide) so cheap?
Also, any changes ( improvements/updates) coming down the road on the Origin Strings?
 

Georgo

New User
Hey Georgo,
Were you more interested in the size of the replacement grip?

I was interested in the reason why so many people had the feedback that the grip size feels significantly larger on the PA and PAT (compared even to previous APD).
My assumption is the raw grip size has not been made larger on the new Babolat rackets (I hope very much so).

It's probably the basic grip that is thicker. Or that the basic stock grip compresses so much with time that a new one just feels so much bigger. I do not know.
 

Babolat Official

Hall of Fame
Babolat String Pricing Question: Why is the Origin string so pricey (polyamide) and the Spirltek string (polyamide) so cheap?
Also, any changes ( improvements/updates) coming down the road on the Origin Strings?

Though both include polyamide, the two are quite different. Spiraltek features a polyamide core with synthetic filament wrapping. It's versatile, but it does not perform as well as a string like Origin. It's moderately comfortable, but most of all, versatile.

Origin on the other hand is a monofilament, but unlike other monofilaments, it is not made of polyester. Instead, it's made of polyamide. Origin provides excellent comfort and power, yet it is still crisp. Origin, in my opinion, provides better performance than Spiraltek. I have only used it in hybrids so far, but I'm aching to try it out in a full bed.

As far as the future of Origin, I'm not sure of details at the moment, but I will let you know if I find out anything new.

I was interested in the reason why so many people had the feedback that the grip size feels significantly larger on the PA and PAT (compared even to previous APD).
My assumption is the raw grip size has not been made larger on the new Babolat rackets (I hope very much so).

It's probably the basic grip that is thicker. Or that the basic stock grip compresses so much with time that a new one just feels so much bigger. I do not know.

Based on your feedback, I went ahead and grabbed an old APD 2013 from stock that is 4 3/8 grip. I measured both with the replacement grip on and off, and here are my results:

Grip on
-Middle of handle: 4 3/8"
-Bottom of handle/near butt: 4 3/8"

Grip off (bare handle)
-4" along entire length

In other words, the measurements were identical to the Pure Aero Tour 4 3/8 grip size, with the exception of near the butt of the handle.

Thus, it seems like the grip was wrapped with a bit more overlap on these Pure Aero Tours, and folks are finding it to feel bigger, especially if they hold their rackets near the bottom of the handle. Plus, like you said, these grips compress down, so people who are used to a compressed grip are using a new, noncompressed grip, which makes the grip size feel even bigger. I would say that it's probably a combination of these two factors.

What I did with mine was rewrap the base grip with less overlap so it felt less bulky. I ended up cutting off the excess. But, I still prefer the 4 1/4 grip these days.

Hope that helps!
 

ChadW

Rookie
Has anyone been selected as a Babolat Ambassador? I saw a Facebook ad the other day and decided to sign up. Don't know the odds of being selected though.
 

Babolat Official

Hall of Fame
Has anyone been selected as a Babolat Ambassador? I saw a Facebook ad the other day and decided to sign up. Don't know the odds of being selected though.

We just opened the application and will have it open through the month of November. Announcements of selected Ambassadors will not be for a little while, but stay tuned!
 

TennisHound

Legend
I know we're still curious to know how the new Strike will differ from the Strike Control, or if they will be the same racquet.
 

Babolat Official

Hall of Fame
I know we're still curious to know how the new Strike will differ from the Strike Control, or if they will be the same racquet.
The new Pure Strikes are still being fine tuned by our racket team. Moreover, the Pure Controls will continue on within the Pure Strike family as the Pure Strike CTRL. However, the new Pure Strikes and the Pure Strike CTRLs will be two different rackets, albeit within the same family. The Strike and Control are not merging into one frame.

Both will have different variations, like Tour versions. I don't have any details on specs at the moment as they are still being refined, but I can say for certain that the new Pure Strikes and Pure Strike CTRLs will not be released in 2016.
 

TennisHound

Legend
Well, that's totally good news. The important thing for the Strike is that it:
It is a 98" 16x19 (close pattern) 10.8oz 6pts HL, SW320 - very manueverable, easily modified, requires no weighting (however with the odd-feeling hit, weight at 3 and 9 makes it palatable).

Why is this important? How is it different from other leading tweener 98s?
-Blade 98 16x19 (open pattern) 10.8oz 3pts HL, SW328 - clumsy, and very erratic and hard to control (string pattern and head shape contribute to this), requires tail weighting, balance causes some arm toxicity/ fatigue
-Head GRad MP 16x19 (semi-open pattern) 10.6oz, 4pts HL, SW316 - big head for 98" feels like 100", uncustomizable, is not a racquet for serious play, needs weight for stability but is hampered by the odd Graphene process (weight removed from throat and put at poles of racquet, extremely hard substance used in throat), significant arm shoulder toxic.

There are literally no other midsize racquets to compare to. There is the XT Speed Rev Pro and the Head GRev Pro that are infected with the Graphene process that has rendered these racquets virtually un-usable, and certainly unmodifiable. Head has made the biggest and most crucial mistake of trying to make all of its racquets similar to a modfied ATP racquet (with the Graphene process) instead of making them playable without modifications. They have also made the mistake of making the GXTSpeed and GXTSpeed MP 100", and the Radical a too large 98". These racquets are very unpleasant and virtually uncustomizable in their current state.

The Pure Aero would sell better if it had the same tight 16x19 pattern as the APD.
 

QuadCam

Professional
We just opened the application and will have it open through the month of November. Announcements of selected Ambassadors will not be for a little while, but stay tuned!

I submitted an application, too. It would be great to be selected! I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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