2013 Rome Masters draw

[Tennis_Hands]

The good news is: Dimi is in Fed's quarter. Would love to see that match (if Fed manages to pass Haas :twisted

...... and the more interesting question is, whether Nadal and Djokovic will be in the same half in Rome. I think they will be and here are the reasons:


4) will be able to fit in the other half Federer + all the other players, who are hot at the moment (Wawa, Dimitrov, maybe Nishi), thus ensuring some atractive matches in the boring tournament, but without jeopardizing the position of the top claycourters at the moment

Nishikori, Dimitrov and Haas in Federer's half.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

Random draws? Really?

They have decided to milk Federer's career till the end.

 

[mariecon]

Looking more closely at the draw right now. Fed's is not that easy:

1- Starace/Stepanek (Step has beaten Fed in Rome before)
2- Simon/Haas/Youzhny (He'd better pray it's not Simon, lol)
Q: Gasquet/Tsonga/Dimitrov (all can upset Fed if he hasn't recovered his best shape)
S: Delpo? (Better than Rafa, that's for sure!
F: either Djoko or Rafa (he's done)

Rafa: 1- Fognini/Seppi (I can think of easier 1st rounds, especially in Rome!)
2- Nieminen/Tipsy (formality)
Q: Ferrer/Raonic/Verdasco/Kohl (hope it's Raonic, Rafa will slaughter him)
S: well, if he passes that one he's good for the final vs either Delpo, Almagro or Fed

Djoko: 1-Klizan (not sure about his form or level)
2- Wawa or Dolgo (that's the tough one)
Q: Berd/Cilic (no big problem)
S: Yeah!! Clash of the titans! Bring it on already!!

I'm not doing Murray because he won't get through his quarter anyway, so doesn't matter.

How can you hope it's Raonic and not Ferrer? Rafa owns Ferrer so badly it's not even funny. Ferrer is so mentally weak when he plays his buddy it's really a joke that he's in his quarter again.

 

[Relinquis]

moot /mo͞ot/ Adjective. Subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty, and typically not admitting of a final decision

 

[mariecon]

Nishikori, Dimitrov and Haas in Federer's half.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

Random draws? Really?

They have decided to milk Federer's career till the end.

Kei won't make it that far. But Dimitrov and Haas could be trouble.

 

[veroniquem]

How can you hope it's Raonic and not Ferrer? Rafa owns Ferrer so badly it's not even funny. Ferrer is so mentally weak when he plays his buddy it's really a joke that he's in his quarter again.

But Ferrer will make him work (look at their Madrid match) whereas he'll roll over Raonic (same as Barcelona).

 

[tennis_pro]

more insults?

let's see you put your money where your empty brain is

post a link to my last tournament thread, self promoting lazy bones

I think you need to check the definition of "insult" before you reply.

I said make proper threads first and be done with it. What's your problem? I'm not gonna get in your way if it hurts you so much.

 

[mariecon]

I guess they decided to put Nadal with Djokovic to shut up the conspiracy theorists who think the draws are rigged. But Nadal and Ferrer are still in the same half so I'm still a believer.

As I said earlier in the week...


http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=7387233#post7387233

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Kei won't make it that far. But Dimitrov and Haas could be trouble.

It is not about whether they could be trouble for Federer.

It is, that all the uncertain outcoumes (meaning, players, that can potentially spell danger for the most interesting from a broadcasting point of view players) should be chanelled away from those players. Right now those players are Nadal and Djokovic. If that happens at the expense of some capable up and commers playing against the best player of the last 10 years, that is even better.

I guess they decided to put Nadal with Djokovic to shut up the conspiracy theorists who think the draws are rigged. But Nadal and Ferrer are still in the same half so I'm still a believer.

They are not theorists.

It is as clear as it can be, outside of having the TDs on a record, confessing that.

See post #16.

I am so sorry, that I didn't look more closely at the difference in the points between Ferrer and Nadal (as I thought, that Daveed has his position assured bar some really bad early loss in Rome), otherwise I would have factored that in and said, that Ferrer will also be in Nadal's quarter.

Otherwise it would have been 100%. Just like it is 100 %, that Djokovic and Nadal will be in different halves at RG. Book it!

 

[mariecon]

Federer has a good draw again, not that it will help him these days lol. Nothing to complain about really. Virtually guaranteed a Djokovic vs Nadal match which is good, and Federer may actually have a shot at the title if his form is good (big IF) and Djok/Nadal tire eachother out...

How is Djokovic/Nadal match guaranteed? Do you forget that Djoker went out in his first match in Madrid? He'll probably lose to Stan in Rd. 3.

 

[mariecon]

I like economy and hate clutter.

Your posting needless extra threads does those of us looking for a thread in the TOP SCREEN of the page a disservice, forcing us to use "search" or page/down NEEDLESSLY

How many extraneous threads have you made this way?

I think it's a good thread so get over it.

 

[mariecon]

What does 1 have to do with the other? Why couldn't he be in his half in both? In any case, that should mark the end of Fed fans' rants about conspiracy theories. And as usual Fed has cake, this time not just until the semi but until the final. Why Fed fans EVER whine about draws is completely beyond me. (poor Djoko can't catch a break, gets Wawa again).

First of all, Fed's draw is not a cakewalk.

Secondly, if Nadal wins Madrid and Rome and Ferrer doesn't make the SF of Rome then Nadal gets back to #4. So it did make a big difference for him to fall in Nadal's quarter. And it won't shut up conspiracy theorists for this very reason. I even said earlier that they would probably put Nadal in Djokovic's half to deflect suspicion away from the "rigged draw" theory.

 

[axel89]

watch tennis pro make a rg discussion thread right now wouldn't be suprised i think he made a MC thread when miami was going on lol

 

[veroniquem]

He made this thread today though.

 

[Clarky21]

Going to rome so hoping for some good matches. Hope Nadal loses early.

I hope Nadal has extra security in Rome. He's going to need it.

Nadal is doomed if he makes it to Cvac. I hope he loses early to avoid another thrashing. He's got zero chance of beating Cvac, even if Cvac showed up in a wheelchair.

 

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

I hope Nadal has extra security in Rome. He's going to need it.

Yeah, especially with you around. If I see ANYONE trying to hurt RNadal, I will personally come out and get them.

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

Nadal gets to beat Djokovic in the semis. Excellent.

 

[forzamilan90]

Hope Federer can do some damage there, and my boy Dimitrov too.

 

[merwy]

Can it really be a coincidence that the #4 and #5 are together AGAIN? Ferrer doesn't benefit at all from his #4 ranking this way. Anyway I'm glad Djoko and Nadal are finally in the same half, hard to believe indeed. I see Federer's got a very good draw but whatever, I can easily see him lose to Haas or Simon in the third round

 

[Clarky21]

Can it really be a coincidence that the #4 and #5 are together AGAIN? Ferrer doesn't benefit at all from his #4 ranking this way. Anyway I'm glad Djoko and Nadal are finally in the same half, hard to believe indeed. I see Federer's got a very good draw but whatever, I can easily see him lose to Haas or Simon in the third round

Are you and the other Fedites ever satisfied? He is in Cvac's draw so he is doomed to lose early. Isn't that good enough for you?

 

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

Are you and the other Fedites ever satisfied? He is in Cvac's draw so he is doomed to lose early. Isn't that good enough for you?

Like I said, RFederer fans want peRFection. They'll NEVER be satisfied. There's just no pleasing an RFederer fan.

 

[tennis_pro]

Fine. I give up. You made derogatory false statement about me. You dont consider that "insult"? I challenged you to prove your false statement, and of course you couldnt.

This is what I said and what according to you were insults:
"I guess I could've named it "NADAL AND DJOKOVIC IN ONE HALF OMGZZZ" to please your akward sense of thread harmony."

"Here, I provided a link which you intentionally missed just to be a total barnacle."

"God, you're such a nuisance. Seriously, get a life. Report me to the mods if you feel one of the threads is unnecessary, you don't have to cry about it in BOTH THREADS and derail them."
And this in particular:
"He's butthurt because I stepped in his territory of making match/tournament threads in the pro player section.

LoveGame I'm not gonna make another Tournament X General Discussion thread if you do it for me."

Since when calling someone a nuisance or butthurt is considered an insult?

How many times do I have to repeat it? I don't care of you make a thread. I do care of you make a duplicate thread (such as a separaet threat for Rome Draw when you alerady made a thread for Rome aTournament Discussion, because that stinks up the top screen and makes it hard to find other therads.

For the last time. If Nadal and Federer ended in one half I wouldn't make a thread because it would be nothing extraordinary. For the first time ever Nadal and Djokovic end up in the same half and that's worth making a new thread. Many will agree with me on this. When the actual tournaments starts (which is soon) the Rome Masters Draw thread will die anyway, so what's your problem? That you gotta scroll one thread further to find something else?

Seriously, grow up.

First you cry about me making a 2nd thread, then about the OP being "empty". What's next? I post too often here and you don't like it?

 

[tennis_pro]

Nadal gets to beat Djokovic in the semis. Excellent.

Just as he did in Monte Carlo.

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

Just as he did in Monte Carlo.

Just as he did last year in Rome, we could play this game forever. My post was tongue in cheek.

 

[tennis_pro]

Just as he did last year in Rome, we could play this game forever. My post was tongue in cheek.

I don't think results from 2012 mean anything at this stage. Nadal isn't playing half as well and Djokovic is patchy (playing far better in the MC final and terrible in Madrid).

 

[RF20Lennon]

Novak and Nadal in the same half? Im surprised! Hopefully Fed can get a decent result here. Really needs it. Would love to see Ferrer do some damage as well.

 

[mariecon]

Are you and the other Fedites ever satisfied? He is in Cvac's draw so he is doomed to lose early. Isn't that good enough for you?

You really are too much sometimes.

 

[Eureka]

I hope Rome isn't as boring as Madrid.

 

[merwy]

Are you and the other Fedites ever satisfied? He is in Cvac's draw so he is doomed to lose early. Isn't that good enough for you?

No it's not that I'm unhappy because Nadal gets an easy QF, it's more that Ferrer is unlucky that he can't get an easier one. He would probably beat anyone other than Nadal and he gets Nadal twice in a row

 

[merwy]

I hope Rome isn't as boring as Madrid.

How is Madrid boring? Pretty ball girls, lots of arguments with the umpire, annoying crowd and upsets all over the place. I kinda like it for a change.

 

[Love Game]

This is what I said and what according to you were insults:
"I guess I could've named it "NADAL AND DJOKOVIC IN ONE HALF OMGZZZ" to please your akward sense of thread harmony."

"Here, I provided a link which you intentionally missed just to be a total barnacle."

"God, you're such a nuisance. Seriously, get a life. Report me to the mods if you feel one of the threads is unnecessary, you don't have to cry about it in BOTH THREADS and derail them."
And this in particular:
"He's butthurt because I stepped in his territory of making match/tournament threads in the pro player section.

LoveGame I'm not gonna make another Tournament X General Discussion thread if you do it for me."

Since when calling someone a nuisance or butthurt is considered an insult?



For the last time. If Nadal and Federer ended in one half I wouldn't make a thread because it would be nothing extraordinary. For the first time ever Nadal and Djokovic end up in the same half and that's worth making a new thread. Many will agree with me on this. When the actual tournaments starts (which is soon) the Rome Masters Draw thread will die anyway, so what's your problem? That you gotta scroll one thread further to find something else?

Seriously, grow up.

First you cry about me making a 2nd thread, then about the OP being "empty". What's next? I post too often here and you don't like it?

Aesops Fable: More nastiness and insults deserve more nastiness and insults in return.

I'd say don't be stupid, but it's obviously too late for that.
I was responding to your post ...

He's butthurt because I stepped in his territory of making match/tournament threads in the pro player section.

The bolded part is the false statement. It's false because I have no "territory of making match/tournament threads in the pro player section," as you falsely claimed.

You, yourself, proved it was false when you failed to answer the challenge to produce a link to my last "tournament thread in the pro player section" that had been authored by me. You made an adolescent nasty statement about being "butthurt" by something that was, itself, false.

Now I hope you have the sense to stop hijacking your own thread!

 

[Gonzo_style]

Federer always gets tough draws

 

[veroniquem]

No it's not that I'm unhappy because Nadal gets an easy QF, it's more that Ferrer is unlucky that he can't get an easier one. He would probably beat anyone other than Nadal and he gets Nadal twice in a row

I would challenge the "easy" part. Yes, Rafa will win the match but not necessarily easily. Ferrer had match point in Madrid. I don't think Ferrer/Djoko back to back would be considered easy on red clay for anyone. A decent home favorite Italian clay courter in 1st round is not the easiest either, not the worst but not the dream draw by far.
ETA: Did Rafa had Ferrer in his quarter in M-C? Can't remember. Otherwise it's just 2 events, not such a huge deal.

 

[tennis_pro]

The bolded part is the false statement. It's false because I have no "territory of making match/tournament threads in the pro player section," as you falsely claimed.

Agree on this one. But you will never convince me that calling someone "butthurt" is an insult. Moreover, after I said it you responded with "more insults..!" which means there were some before. Which of my previous sentences are seen as insults in your eyes, then? Calling you a nuisance or a barnacle?

Recheck the defintion of an "insult", I'm absolutely serious.

Now I hope you have the sense to stop hijacking your own thread!

Why would I? Your pointless remarks is what keeps this thread going! Oh, the irony!

 

[romeo8880]

Federer has the toughest draw. Not sure what some people are talking about on here.

 

[Love Game]

Agree on this one. But you will never convince me that calling someone "butthurt" is an insult. Moreover, after I said it you responded with "more insults..!" which means there were some before. Which of my previous sentences are seen as insults in your eyes, then? Calling you a nuisance or a barnacle?

Recheck the defintion of an "insult", I'm absolutely serious.



Why would I? Your pointless remarks is what keeps this thread going!

I'd say learn to read, but it's too late for that also, apparently.

Prove me wrong. Quote me saying that "butthurt" is an insult! :roll:

When you mature in your brain, you'll learn that it's the false statements about you that are the insults, not a "butthurt" here and there.

p.s. I'm glad I was able to be of some help. Without my comments you never would have bothered to edit your OP to include a link to the draw once in FINALLY came out. You're welcome!

 

[Clarky21]

I would challenge the "easy" part. Yes, Rafa will win the match but not necessarily easily. Ferrer had match point in Madrid. I don't think Ferrer/Djoko back to back would be considered easy on red clay for anyone. A decent home favorite Italian clay courter in 1st round is not the easiest either, not the worst but not the dream draw by far.
ETA: Did Rafa had Ferrer in his quarter in M-C? Can't remember. Otherwise it's just 2 events, not such a huge deal.

He did? When?

 

[tennis_pro]

I'd say learn to read, but it's too late for that also, apparently.

When you mature in your brain, you'll learn that it's the false statements about you that are the insults, not a "butthurt" here and there.

Thanks. I learn something everyday. Like the fact that false statements are on par with insults. So if I said you've got Caroline Wozniacki as your avatar - that's an insult?

Prove me wrong. Quote me saying that "butthurt" is an insult! :roll:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=7403440&postcount=53

What else would you refer to when saying "more insults!" other than being called butthut? Unless you're using YOUR defintion of an "insult" as "false statement".

p.s. I'm glad I was able to be of some help. Without my comments you never would have bothered to edit your OP to include a link to the draw once in FINALLY came out. You're welcome!

Now that you can find the draw from 10 different sources I don't think no-one cares about it anymore. See? That's the whole thing about making threads. Within minutes/hours no-one cares about the OP.

 

[bullfan]

Djokovic's road:
2nd round: Klizan
3rd round: Wawrinka...(playing his 3rd week in a row) -- I wouldn't put it past Stan to win.
QF: Berdych
SF: Nadal
F: Federer/Del Potro/Tsonga

Nadal's road:
2nd round: Fognini/Seppi
3rd round: Tipsarevic will lose to Troiki, he's having a horrid year.
QF: Ferrer (poor David)
SF: Djokovic
F: Federer/Del Potro/Tsonga

Murray's road:
2nd round: Davydenko/Granollers
3rd round: Nishikori -- Don't see Murray getting past Nishikori.
QF: Del Potro (haven't seen him in action for quite some time)
SF: Federer/Tsonga
F: Nadal/Djokovic

Federer's road:
2nd round: Stepanek (again, LOL) or Starace
3rd round: Haas -- This would be an interesting match. Haas may win.
QF: Tsonga
SF: Del Potro/Murray
F: Nadal/Djokovic

Djokovic has the hardest draw, everyone else's draw is pretty much even.

 

[veroniquem]

LG and Tennis_pro: maybe you could continue your argument through pm? (just a suggestion, this thread is supposed to be about discussing the draw...)

 

[MichaelNadal]

I hope Nadal and Djokovic both make the semis so Rafa can beat him

 

[veroniquem]

That's the spirit for true Nadal fans!

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Federer's draw looks more than reasonable. Anyone else thinking we could see a Fedal final?

 

[tennis_pro]

Djokovic has the hardest draw, everyone else's draw is pretty much even.

Wawrinka would have to keep his level to have a chance against Djokovic. He's playing his 3rd FULL tournaments (made the final of his previous tournament and has a good chance to make a 2nd - He just broke Berdych to start the SF...)

Troicki won't beat Tipsarevic. Just don't see it.

Nishikori won't beat Murray. I think Andy is a terrible match up for him.

Federer-Haas. Yes, looking forward to that!

 

[tennis_pro]

Federer's draw looks more than reasonable. Anyone else thinking we could see a Fedal final?

I put Fedal in my Rome ATP Fantasy draw. Definately could see it happen if Federer starts to play some tennis instead of joking around!

 

[Clarky21]

I hope Nadal and Djokovic both make the semis so Rafa can beat him

You're a glutton for punishment aren't you, MN? Lol.

 

[MichaelNadal]

You're a glutton for punishment aren't you, MN? Lol.

I just care about the French. Rafa will need to make a statement.

 

[JackReacher]

Nadal leads Dj 6-3 at the slams (or should that be Nadal leads Clarky21 6-3? Same thing...). Nadal may as well make it 7-3, but it would surprise nobody if Dj is a week one casualty, considering how inconsistent Dj has been this year.

 

[veroniquem]

And how scary good Wawa looks these days :shock:

 

[Deleted member 77403]

I've missed all the chaos in Madrid, but will be watching Rome with great interest. I hope Nadal wins Madrid and makes it to Djokovic, just to get crushed again.... :twisted:

 

[T-Noone]

I'm liking Tsonga's chances. BTW is Ferrer set for 4th seed RG?