2021 Wimbledon - Men's Singles - Tournament thread

[James P]

Too late. He lost in the 5th.

Kinda bummed. Like his game, works well on grass.

 

[stringertom]

Mackie McDonald completes the come from behind, down 0-2, comeback in 5.

A UCLA Bruin was guaranteed to win in that matchup. Double Mac won a NCAA singles title while Cressy was a dubs champion a few years later.

 

[James P]

A UCLA Bruin was guaranteed to win in that matchup. Double Mac won a NCAA singles title while Cressy was a dubs champion a few years later.

Happy to see three Americans through, although that was a foregone conclusion before this match went final.

 

[stringertom]

I wonder if that was Fery's first 5 set match...

It would have to be his first sanctioned Bo5 now that DC is reduced to Bo3 and he’s never attempted to or succeeded at qualifying for a slam.

 

[James P]

Current LL draw:

 

[stringertom]

Happy to see three Americans through, although that was a foregone conclusion before this match went final.

And a NCAA graduate Texas A&M Aggie “emigre” from France (Rinderknech).

 

[jm1980]

Three players will be playing in their first Slam main draw for the first time:

• Marcelo Tomás Barrios Vera (Chile)
• Daniel Masur (Germany)
• Zhang Zhizhen (China)

Zhang is also the first Chinese man to reach the Wimbledon main draw in the Open Era

 

[Nadal_King]

Cilic is seeded that is huge as a potential r3 with a top 8 seed

 

[Nostradamus]

2-2 now, I forgot they play BO5 in the final round of qualies.

Close one but that's ok, Fery is virtually garanteed to be into the 1st round of main draw as lucky loser. Good luck Arthur. When was the last time lucky loser went all the way to the Final of wimbledon ??

 

[jm1980]

Close one but that's ok, Fery is virtually garanteed to be into the 1st round of main draw as lucky loser. Good luck Arthur. When was the last time lucky loser went all the way to the Final of wimbledon ??

Lucky losers are drawn based on ranking. There's no virtually no chance for Fery to be drawn unless some kind of disaster happens and tons of players withdraw

 

[Nostradamus]

Lucky losers are drawn based on ranking. There's no virtually no chance for Fery to be drawn unless some kind of disaster happens and tons of players withdraw

don't think so. they are drawn based on how many games they won.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Hope fed’s in medvedev’s side of the draw.

 

[James P]

don't think so. they are drawn based on how many games they won.

I literally posted this upthread

Current LL draw:

 

[jm1980]

don't think so. they are drawn based on how many games they won.

You could not be more wrong

 

[D-Lite]

don't think so. they are drawn based on how many games they won.

It's a somewhat predictable pattern where youngsters come out all guns blazing but don't have the endurance to take a 3rd set and the match (although 2x tie-breaks do suggest he is fit enough to play 5 sets). His opponent is a fair few years older and much higher ranked so greater match fitness is to be expected. I'm sure he will be back next year fitter and hungrier after being so close this time. He may even be ranked high enough over the next few years to benefit from regular WCs.

I noticed 19 y.o. Nakashima made it through.

 

[Nostradamus]

It's a somewhat predictable pattern where youngsters come out all guns blazing but don't have the endurance to take a 3rd set and the match (although 2x tie-breaks do suggest he is fit enough to play 5 sets). His opponent is a fair few years older and much higher ranked so greater match fitness is to be expected. I'm sure he will be back next year fitter and hungrier after being so close this time. He may even be ranked high enough over the next few years to benefit from regular WCs.

I noticed 19 y.o. Nakashima made it through.

i need confirmation from wimbledon, they told me that games won is how lucky loser gets in. and they are almost ready for the matches. hopefully it won't stink

 

[jm1980]

i need confirmation from wimbledon, they told me that games won is how lucky loser gets in. and they are almost ready for the matches. hopefully it won't stink

From the Official Grand Slam rulebook (PDF link)

Lucky Losers and Substitutions

i. Lucky Losers Lucky Losers are those players who have lost in the final round of the Qualifying competition or, if more Lucky Losers are required, those players who have lost in the previous qualifying rounds. Lucky Losers shall be selected based on the computer rankings used for the determination of qualifying seedings as follows:

The order of the four (4) highest ranked players shall be randomly drawn, thereafter the order shall follow the players' rankings, unless there are more than two (2) main draw withdrawals at the time the Qualifying competition is finished in which case the size of the random draw will be the number of withdrawals plus two (2).

The Lucky Loser list will be posted each day at least one (1) hour prior to the sign-in deadline which will be one-half (½) hour before the first point is played in the first match. Such list shall not be available for sign-in on the preceding day.

The added random draw is a fairly recent change. Lucky losers used to be selected based on ranking only. Unfortunately, this led to players abusing the system. Players who knew there were going to be withdrawals and were the highest ranked player(s) remaining in the qualifying draw would just tank their last match, because they knew they would get in.

 

[Terry Tibbs]

On the betting exchanges Federer is 4th favourite for Wimbledon at odds of 15. The longest odds I have ever seen on him pre Wimbledon.

 

[kevin qmto]

Mackie McDonald completes the come from behind, down 0-2, comeback in 5.

I prefer Mackie on a personal level but kinda wanted Cressy to win.

maybe he’ll get in on a LL.

 

[Nostradamus]

From the Official Grand Slam rulebook (PDF link)

Lucky Losers and Substitutions

i. Lucky Losers Lucky Losers are those players who have lost in the final round of the Qualifying competition or, if more Lucky Losers are required, those players who have lost in the previous qualifying rounds. Lucky Losers shall be selected based on the computer rankings used for the determination of qualifying seedings as follows:

The order of the four (4) highest ranked players shall be randomly drawn, thereafter the order shall follow the players' rankings, unless there are more than two (2) main draw withdrawals at the time the Qualifying competition is finished in which case the size of the random draw will be the number of withdrawals plus two (2).

The Lucky Loser list will be posted each day at least one (1) hour prior to the sign-in deadline which will be one-half (½) hour before the first point is played in the first match. Such list shall not be available for sign-in on the preceding day.

The added random draw is a fairly recent change. Lucky losers used to be selected based on ranking only. Unfortunately, this led to players abusing the system. Players who knew there were going to be withdrawals and were the highest ranked player(s) remaining in the qualifying draw would just tank their last match, because they knew they would get in.

this is dumbest rule i have ever heard

 

[SonicNirvana]

Nakashima will be tougher than the higher seed Andrej Martin was today. Bo5 qualifying round, as it should be at all the slams.

Called it. He had the best performance of anyone throughout.

 

[Zardoz7/12]

I forget they play best of 5 sets in the last qualifying round, man what a slog are Wimbledon qualies.

 

[TennisFan3]

Hope fed’s in medvedev’s side of the draw.

So that Novak can get even a bigger CUPcake?

 

[stringertom]

Meddie must be shaking in his Izod Lacoste sneakers, drawing Struff in 1R again.

 

[marc45]

qtrs.

Djokovic-Rublev

Tsitsipas-RBA

..................

Zverev-Berretini

Fed-Med

 

[marc45]

Notable first rounds...

Djokovic (1) vs Draper (WC)

Tsitsipas (3) vs Tiafoe

Basilashvili (24) vs Murray (WC)

Humbert (21) vs Kyrgios

Federer (7) vs Mannarino

Dimitrov (18) vs Verdasco

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Meddie must be shaking in his Izod Lacoste sneakers, drawing Struff in 1R again.

Good find, "Meddie"

 

[marc45]

full draw

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408354494941908995

 

[marc45]

full draw

https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/index.html?event=MS

 

[junior74]

Wimbledon is protecting Kyrgios' H2H with Djokovic

 

[Deleted member 771911]

Want to win: Berrettini, Fritz, FAA.
Who will win: Djokovic.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Federer has to be happy with his draw today. We shall see.

 

[3fees]

Federer #8-ATP in rank, in SW19 - #6 To make the draw fairer by SW19 Committee .

Cheers
3Fees

 

[Larry Duff]

You could not be more wrong

Not even in his top 20 of wrongs

 

[jm1980]

Federer #8-ATP in rank, in SW19 - #6 To make the draw fairer by SW19 Committee .

#5-#8 all get the same draws...

 

[stringertom]

Current LL draw:

First LL is awarded to Botic van de Zandschlup.

 

[stringertom]

Federer #8-ATP in rank, in SW19 - #6 To make the draw fairer by SW19 Committee .

Cheers
3Fees

He’s bumped up solely due to withdrawals by Nadal and Thiem.

blnt

Cheers
Stringytom

 

[jmnk]

First LL is awarded to Botic van de Zandschlup.

I'm confused why Botic van de Zandschlup got awarded the first LL. He is _not_ one of four top-ranked players that lost in qualifications.

 

[BeatlesFan]

#5-#8 all get the same draws...

!???

So the #5, #7 and #8 seeds all play Mannarino in the first round? They most certainly do NOT get the same draws.

 

[jm1980]

!???

So the #5, #7 and #8 seeds all play Mannarino in the first round? They most certainly do NOT get the same draws.

I mean that they are considered "equal" in the drawing procedure:

#5-8 will draw #25-32 in the third round
#5-8 will draw #9-12 in the fourth round
#5-8 will draw #1-4 in QF

 

[jm1980]

I'm confused why Botic van de Zandschlup got awarded the first LL. He is _not_ one of four top-ranked players that lost in qualifications.

He was among the Top 4 who lost in the final round of qualies:

1. #112 Majchrzak
2. #116 Cerundolo
3. #117 Uchiyama
4. #139 van de Zandschulp
5. #141 Gaio

 

[jmnk]

He was among the Top 4 who lost in the final round of qualies:

1. #112 Majchrzak
2. #116 Cerundolo
3. #117 Uchiyama
4. #139 van de Zandschulp
5. #141 Gaio

oh, I see, I misread your earlier post. Bonzi, who would be the last top four actually won his qualifying match, which made van de Zandschulp the last top four loser. Did they publish the order of that top four losers? Meaning - who is the next in line in case someone withdraws before Monday?

 

[jm1980]

oh, I see, I misread your earlier post. Bonzi, who would be the last top four actually won his qualifying match, which made van de Zandschulp the last top four loser. Did they publish the order of that top four losers? Meaning - who is the next in line in case someone withdraws before Monday?

2. Majchrzak
3. Cerundolo
4. Uchiyama

(via @TenisZoneOk)

 

[bezs]

So Kyrgios decided to not be a bum and finally travel to play. Hope he loses to Humbert.

 

[James P]

I'm confused why Botic van de Zandschlup got awarded the first LL. He is _not_ one of four top-ranked players that lost in qualifications.

Yeah he is. He's #4.

Edit: Sorry, wasn't trying to pile on, didn't realize that your confusion was already answered upthread.

 

[Latetothegame]

So new youngest Brit. Jake Drapper . Who “arrived” at Queens club, will face Nole on centre court. Lets hope he can make a few plucky shots to get the crowd involved , before his defeat,
Quite a good first round for interest

 

[James P]

So new youngest Brit. Jake Drapper . Who “arrived” at Queens club, will face Nole on centre court. Lets hope he can make a few plucky shots to get the crowd involved , before his defeat,
Quite a good first round for interest

At least he's guaranteed one Centre Court match in his career. One that he'll remember for the rest of his life. Ideally, he'll be back as a force of his own three years down the road or so. We'll have to see.

 

[Latetothegame]

At least he's guaranteed one Centre Court match in his career. One that he'll remember for the rest of his life. Ideally, he'll be back as a force of his own three years down the road or so. We'll have to see.

Who can tell the future for him? As you say wimby centre court against defending champ , hopefully it Will be a motivation fo his future

 

[James P]

So, I just filled out a bracket...this is how far I sent the seeded players:

(person that knocked them out in parenthesis)

01. Novak Djokovic [W]
30. Alejandro Davidovich Fokina [1R}: (Denis Kudla)
17. Crisitian Garin [4R]: (Novak Djokovic)
13. Gael Monfils [1R]: (Christopher O'Connell)

09. Diego Schwartzman [3R]: (Jiri Vesely)
19. Jannik Sinner [1R]: (Marton Fucsovics)
26. Fabio Fognini [3R]: (Andrey Rublev)
05. Andrey Rublev [QF]: (Novak Djokovic)

03. Stefanos Tsitsipas [4R]: (Dan Evans)
25. Karen Khachanov [3R]: (Stefanos Tsitsipas)
22. Dan Evans [SF]: (Novak Djokovic)
15. Alex de Minaur [3R]: (Dan Evans)

10. Denis Shapovalov [2R]: (Pierre Hugues Herbert)
24. Nikoloz Basilashvili [3R]: (Pierre Hugues Herbert)
27. Reilly Opelka [4R]: (Pierre Hugues Herbert)
08. Roberto Bautista Agut [3R]: (Reilly Opelka)

07. Matteo Berrettini [F]: (Novak Djokovic)
28. John Isner [3R]: (Matteo Berrettini)
20. Aslan Karatsev [1R]: (Jeremy Chardy)
12. Casper Ruud [1R]: (Jordan Thompson)

16. Felix Auger-Aliassime [3R]: (Ugo Humbert)
21. Ugo Humbert [QF]: (Matteo Berrettini)
31. Taylor Fritz [2R]: (Steve Johnson)
04. Alexander Zverev [4R]: (Ugo Humbert)

06. Roger Federer [3R]: (Cameron Norrie)
29. Cameron Norrie [QF]: (Daniil Medvedev)
23. Lorenzo Sonego [3R]: (Sam Querrey)
11. Pablo Carreno Busta [1R]: (Sam Querrey)

14. Hubert Hurkacz [2R]: (Marcos Giron)
18. Grigor Dimitrov [2R]: (Alexander Bublik)
32. Marin Cilic [3R]: (Daniil Medvedev)
02. Daniil Medvedev [SF]: (Matteo Berrettini)

Quarters
Djokovic vs Rublev
Evans vs Herbert
Berrettini vs Humbert
Norrie vs Medvedev

Semis
Djokovic vs Evans
Berrettini vs Medvedev

Final
Djokovic vs Berrettini

 

[Third Serve]

So, I just filled out a bracket...this is how far I sent the seeded players:

(person that knocked them out in parenthesis)

01. Novak Djokovic [W]
30. Alejandro Davidovich Fokina [1R}: (Denis Kudla)
17. Crisitian Garin [4R]: (Novak Djokovic)
13. Gael Monfils [1R]: (Christopher O'Connell)

09. Diego Schwartzman [3R]: (Jiri Vesely)
19. Jannik Sinner [1R]: (Marton Fucsovics)
26. Fabio Fognini [3R]: (Andrey Rublev)
05. Andrey Rublev [QF]: (Novak Djokovic)

03. Stefanos Tsitsipas [4R]: (Dan Evans)
25. Karen Khachanov [3R]: (Stefanos Tsitsipas)
22. Dan Evans [SF]: (Novak Djokovic)
15. Alex de Minaur [3R]: (Dan Evans)

10. Denis Shapovalov [2R]: (Pierre Hugues Herbert)
24. Nikoloz Basilashvili [3R]: (Pierre Hugues Herbert)
27. Reilly Opelka [4R]: (Pierre Hugues Herbert)
08. Roberto Bautista Agut [3R]: (Reilly Opelka)

07. Matteo Berrettini [F]: (Novak Djokovic)
28. John Isner [3R]: (Matteo Berrettini)
20. Aslan Karatsev [1R]: (Jeremy Chardy)
12. Casper Ruud [1R]: (Jordan Thompson)

16. Felix Auger-Aliassime [3R]: (Ugo Humbert)
21. Ugo Humbert [QF]: (Matteo Berrettini)
31. Taylor Fritz [2R]: (Steve Johnson)
04. Alexander Zverev [4R]: (Ugo Humbert)

06. Roger Federer [3R]: (Cameron Norrie)
29. Cameron Norrie [QF]: (Daniil Medvedev)
23. Lorenzo Sonego [3R]: (Sam Querrey)
11. Pablo Carreno Busta [1R]: (Sam Querrey)

14. Hubert Hurkacz [2R]: (Marcos Giron)
18. Grigor Dimitrov [2R]: (Alexander Bublik)
32. Marin Cilic [3R]: (Daniil Medvedev)
02. Daniil Medvedev [SF]: (Matteo Berrettini)

Quarters
Djokovic vs Rublev
Evans vs Herbert
Berrettini vs Humbert
Norrie vs Medvedev

Semis
Djokovic vs Evans
Berrettini vs Medvedev

Final
Djokovic vs Berrettini

Man, Djokovic vs. Berrettini in the final? Lordy.