This definitely needs to be punished; you can't do something like this. It completely undermines the integrity of the game it's a blatant fix and she should be suspended for 6 months-1 year, and if she does it again she should get a 2 year suspension. You have to come down hard in tennis like this because it's the easiest event in which you can fix games, point shave, etc. and should not be tolerated.
I don't think you understand. She was injured and let the home favorite Kramer compete instead of giving her opponent a walk over. Kramer then played (and lost) a fun 3 setter instead of the fans getting to see nothing at all.
I thought all bets were off if a player retired?
Clearly wrong, she should have tanked and let the other player have the satisfaction of beating her or won the match and withdrawn with injury.
It looks very bad and she should be suspended for a year.
Why would betting continue after a match has begun? Betting on a match should be closed once the first ball has been struck.
I am really disgusted about this, Wocniackis father is an idiot.
I am really disgusted about this, Wocniackis father is an idiot.
I hope they ban her for 2-3 years, she would totally deserve that, newly rich people often think they can do whatever they want!
She should be suspended. No doubt she broke the WTA rules AND there are some big questions on the betting part. I would suggest that the WTA conduct a investigation into whether her father was in collusion with any gamblers.
This stinks.
Sorry to say that I am one of her biggest fans, too.
Is she pregnant ??:???:
How was her father even allowed to talk to her in the middle of the match?
I am really disgusted about this, Wocniackis father is an idiot.
I hope they ban her for 2-3 years, she would totally deserve that, newly rich people often think they can do whatever they want!
Are you insane??? I even know her AND HER Swedish coach!! But all her Swedish and Danish fans are really upset the way she and her dad handled this situation! You need to STFU!Would you really wish that on her? She clearly had the fans' interests above her own, but let's all condemn her. Idiot.
She should be suspended. No doubt she broke the WTA rules AND there are some big questions on the betting part. I would suggest that the WTA conduct a investigation into whether her father was in collusion with any gamblers.
This stinks.
Sorry to say that I am one of her biggest fans, too.
Are you insane??? I even know her AND HER Swedish coach!! But all her Swedish and Danish fans are really upset the way she and her dad handled this situation! You need to STFU!
Ive talked to her a couple of times, yes she is a nice girl. I also know her coach pretty well,. Although... as many WTA-dads her dad is a wellknown idiot. Do you mind explaining to me why he said what he said to her in Polish? Why not in English? And do you mind explain to me why there Polish accounts all over the world whoearned millions of dollars on this match?You know her and you still wish a 2-3 year ban on her? You don't think that's a little strong? She's a sweet girl and there's no way in hell she retired for any gambling-related reasons. She has too much to lose, nothing to gain, and she's not an idiot. I'm not sure how cutting her a little slack makes me insane.
I made some research about this betting practice:it's called "live betting".Most online sites allow it and it's legal.That's the $64k question. All bets should be placed and counted before the first ball is tossed into the air.
WTA should make it mandatory or ban on court coaching.With the fallout from this incident, I don't think many coaches will be interested in wearing a wire. If I were a coach I'd refuse to wear one.
Ive talked to her a couple of times, yes she is a nice girl. I also know her coach pretty well,. Although... as many WTA-dads her dad is a wellknown idiot. Do you mind explaining to me why he said what he said to her in Polish? Why not in English? And do you mind explain to me why there Polish accounts all over the world whoearned millions of dollars on this match?
Let me fill you in, lots of Polish players around the world who had accounts on Betfair and Bet365 made millions of dollars on that match. They placed HUGE bets on Wocniackis opponent when she was down 0-3 in second set, 0-4 in second set, at 0-5 no more bets came in, 10 seconds later she gave up.If I'm not mistaken, Polish is his first language. I'm not sure if in your last sentence you're trying to refer to their Polish accounts or if you are saying that there are Polish accounts that earned millions of dollars on this match, so I can't really respond.
Let me fill you in, lots of Polish players around the world who had accounts on Betfair and Bet365 made millions of dollars on that match. They placed HUGE bets on Wocniackis opponent when she was down 0-3 in second set, 0-4 in second set, at 0-5 no more bets came in, 10 seconds later she gave up.
Piotr speaks perfectly fine Danish, and reasonable English.
Yes I do, give me a minute and i will dig up the source for you, do you understand Swedish or Danish?Any proof to back that up? (I'm not saying it's can't be true).
Let me fill you in, lots of Polish players around the world who had accounts on Betfair and Bet365 made millions of dollars on that match. They placed HUGE bets on Wocniackis opponent when she was down 0-3 in second set, 0-4 in second set, at 0-5 no more bets came in, 10 seconds later she gave up.
Piotr speaks perfectly fine Danish, and reasonable English.
Let me fill you in, lots of Polish players around the world who had accounts on Betfair and Bet365 made millions of dollars on that match. They placed HUGE bets on Wocniackis opponent when she was down 0-3 in second set, 0-4 in second set, at 0-5 no more bets came in, 10 seconds later she gave up.
Piotr speaks perfectly fine Danish, and reasonable English.
Any proof to back that up? (I'm not saying it's can't be true).
Well yes, i know!Polish is their first language; why would they use some other one?
The bettors placed those bets because they HEARD what he said - it was broadcast live on the internet.
I agree with this.Perhaps he thought that if he said it in English even more people would place bets. I can't read minds so I can't tell you why he said it in Polish.
Also, I would think that many of those bets will not be paid out due to this controversy.
To make a long story short, Piotr Wocniazki is responsible for Betfair and Bet365 losing millions of dollars on this match, they are gonna complain about it to the WTA and possibly take it to court, where they clearly will win the case. With a suspention on Caroline and/or Piotr might follow.