Djokovic has top5 win % on all surfaces

[Lew II]

Win percentage in the Open Era:

1) Djokovic is #1 on hard, #4 on grass, #5 on clay --> average position 3.3
2) Federer is #1 on grass, #3 on hard, #13 on clay --> average position 5.7
3) Borg is #2 on clay, #3 on grass, #14 on hard --> average position 6.3
/ Connors is #4 on hard, #7 on clay, #8 on grass --> average position 6.3
5) Laver is #2 on hard, #7 on grass, #15 on clay --> average position 8.0
6) Nadal is #1 on clay, #10 on hard, #15 on grass --> average position 8.7
7) Lendl is #3 on clay, #5 on hard, #22 on grass --> average position 10.0
8) McEnroe is #2 on grass, #6 on hard, #23 on clay --> average position 10.3
9) Rosewall is #4 on clay, #11 on grass, #20 on hard --> average position 11.7
10) Agassi is #8 on hard, #20 on clay, #28 on grass --> average position 18.7

 

[Amritia]

This is silly as it doesn't take into account weighted average.

 

[maratha_warrior]

amazing

 

[Antonio Puente]

Top 5 on clay and hard, yet a combined 4-9 in RG and USO finals. Not bringing it in the biggest matches.

 

[Azure]

This is silly as it doesn't take into account weighted average.

Yup and also how many of these are 250, 500 tournaments etc. Weighted average is a must.

 

[maratha_warrior]

Federer is 1st on Grass and 3rd on Hard ,
Djokovic is 1st on hard and 4th on Grass .

This is why they deserve weeks at no.1 record and are so far ahead of everyone in terms of consistency across surfaces .
Legend stuff

 

[nov]

So much for Nadal GOAT!

 

[MichaelNadal]

 

[D.Nalby12]

Thanks Lew - for bringing interesting stats on table.

 

[Icarus]

Remind me who has the greatest winning percentage of all time? = )

 

[Lew II]

Remind me who has the greatest winning percentage of all time? = )

The claycourter.

Kent Carlsson has the 16th highest win percentage in the Open Era when you don't consider the surface.

clay score 152-48
hardcourt score 7-6
grass score 0-0

 

[Azure]

The claycourter.

Kent Carlsson has the 16th highest win percentage in the Open Era when you don't consider the surface.

clay score 152-48
hardcourt score 7-6
grass score 0-0

Some superman stuff!

 

[Lew II]

Some superman stuff!

I don't know him well but he looked like a clay ATG in the making, winning 8 titles by the age of 20. He sadly retired at 22.

 

[ForehandCross]

I don't know him well but he looked like a clay ATG in the making, winning 8 titles by the age of 20. He sadly retired at 22.

The joke










---->You

 

[Lew II]

I don't know him well but he looked like a clay ATG in the making, winning 8 titles by the age of 20. He sadly retired at 22.

Holds the record for the least games dropped in a tournament won (10), Bologna 1987:

61 64 vs Meinecke
60 61 vs Rebolledo
60 60 vs Davin
61 60 vs Cane
62 61 vs Sanchez

 

[Tennis_Freak99]

The joke










---->You

r/whooosh

 

[Lew II]

The joke










---->You

I got it, but I wanted to talk about Carlsson.

 

[aldeayeah]

Djokovic: hard clay grass
Federer: hard clay grass
Nadal: hard clay grass

(Color key: 75-80% great player 80-85% dominant player 85-90% surface goat >90% claydal)

Hard

1	SRB	Novak Djokovic	84.51%
2	AUS	Rod Laver	84.16%
3	SUI	Roger Federer	83.33%
4	USA	Jimmy Connors	83.05%
5	USA	Ivan Lendl	82.50%
6	USA	John McEnroe	81.36%
7	USA	Pete Sampras	80.53%
8	USA	Andre Agassi	78.94%
9	SWE	Stefan Edberg	78.79%
10	ESP	Rafael Nadal	78.14%

Clay

1	ESP	Rafael Nadal	91.75%
2	SWE	Bjorn Borg	85.94%
3	USA	Ivan Lendl	81.03%
4	AUS	Ken Rosewall	80.92%
5	SRB	Novak Djokovic	80.14%
6	ARG	Guillermo Vilas	79.86%
7	USA	Jimmy Connors	77.82%
8	ROU	Ilie Nastase	77.39%
9	ARG	Jose Luis Clerc	77.30%
10	AUT	Thomas Muster	77.03%

13

SUI

Roger Federer

76.11%

Grass

1	SUI	Roger Federer	87.38%
2	USA	John McEnroe	85.82%
3	SWE	Bjorn Borg	85.71%
4	SRB	Novak Djokovic	84.07%
5	GBR	Andy Murray	83.59%
6	USA	Pete Sampras	83.47%
7	AUS	Rod Laver	82.98%
8	USA	Jimmy Connors	82.86%
9	GER	Boris Becker	82.27%
10	USA	Andy Roddick	79.63%

15

ESP

Rafael Nadal

78.02%

 

[Lew II]

Djokovic: hard clay grass
Federer: hard clay grass
Nadal: hard clay grass

(Color key: 75-80% great player 80-85% dominant player 85-90% surface goat >90% claydal)

Hard

1	SRB	Novak Djokovic	84.51%
2	AUS	Rod Laver	84.16%
3	SUI	Roger Federer	83.33%
4	USA	Jimmy Connors	83.05%
5	USA	Ivan Lendl	82.50%
6	USA	John McEnroe	81.36%
7	USA	Pete Sampras	80.53%
8	USA	Andre Agassi	78.94%
9	SWE	Stefan Edberg	78.79%
10	ESP	Rafael Nadal	78.14%

Clay

1	ESP	Rafael Nadal	91.75%
2	SWE	Bjorn Borg	85.94%
3	USA	Ivan Lendl	81.03%
4	AUS	Ken Rosewall	80.92%
5	SRB	Novak Djokovic	80.14%
6	ARG	Guillermo Vilas	79.86%
7	USA	Jimmy Connors	77.82%
8	ROU	Ilie Nastase	77.39%
9	ARG	Jose Luis Clerc	77.30%
10	AUT	Thomas Muster	77.03%

13

SUI

Roger Federer

76.11%

Grass

1	SUI	Roger Federer	87.38%
2	USA	John McEnroe	85.82%
3	SWE	Bjorn Borg	85.71%
4	SRB	Novak Djokovic	84.07%
5	GBR	Andy Murray	83.59%
6	USA	Pete Sampras	83.47%
7	AUS	Rod Laver	82.98%
8	USA	Jimmy Connors	82.86%
9	GER	Boris Becker	82.27%
10	USA	Andy Roddick	79.63%

15

ESP

Rafael Nadal

78.02%

Grass win percentages are higher due to smaller sample size.

 

[blablavla]

Win percentage in the Open Era:

1) Djokovic is #1 on hard, #4 on grass, #5 on clay --> average position 3.3
2) Federer is #1 on grass, #3 on hard, #13 on clay --> average position 5.7
3) Borg is #2 on clay, #3 on grass, #14 on hard --> average position 6.3
/ Connors is #4 on hard, #7 on clay, #8 on grass --> average position 6.3
5) Laver is #2 on hard, #7 on grass, #15 on clay --> average position 8.0
6) Nadal is #1 on clay, #10 on hard, #15 on grass --> average position 8.7
7) Lendl is #3 on clay, #5 on hard, #22 on grass --> average position 10.0
8) McEnroe is #2 on grass, #6 on hard, #23 on clay --> average position 10.3
9) Rosewall is #4 on clay, #11 on grass, #20 on hard --> average position 11.7
10) Agassi is #8 on hard, #20 on clay, #28 on grass --> average position 18.7

who is on average position #1?
and who is on average position #2?

 

[blablavla]

Top 5 on clay and hard, yet a combined 4-9 in RG and USO finals. Not bringing it in the biggest matches.

or only bringing it in vs weak era competition

 

[aldeayeah]

who is on average position #1?
and who is on average position #2?

All Surfaces

1	ESP	Rafael Nadal	83.29%
2	SRB	Novak Djokovic	83.18%
3	SWE	Bjorn Borg	82.98%
4	SUI	Roger Federer	82.02%
5	USA	Jimmy Connors	81.76%
6	USA	John McEnroe	81.65%
7	USA	Ivan Lendl	81.51%
8	AUS	Rod Laver	80.20%
9	USA	Pete Sampras	77.44%
10	GBR	Andy Murray	77.17%

As for the Big 3, it kinda averages out if you count all surfaces.

Of course, you can cherry pick to make anyone look good if you're into that *wink wink nudge nudge*

 

[DSH]

 

[Born_to_slice]

Yup and also how many of these are 250, 500 tournaments etc. Weighted average is a must.

Novak played less 250/500 tournaments than Nadal and way less than Federer.

 

[Azure]

Novak played less 250/500 tournaments than Nadal and way less than Federer.

Yes, I am aware. I am just saying we need to factor in these things.

 

[urban]

Interesting that Rod Laver and also Ken Rosewall are pretty high on all those lists, although they were 30 plus, when the open era started.

 

[DSH]

Interesting that Rod Laver and also Ken Rosewall are pretty high on all those lists, although they were 30 plus, when the open era started.

Technically, Rod Laver was not yet 30 when the Open Era began on April 22, 1968, although your point is understood.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

Federer is the only member of the Big 3 that is atleast 3rd all time on 2 different surfaces. Thanks Lew

Also, Nadal off clay is LOL bad

 

[PeoplesChamp]

This is silly as it doesn't take into account weighted average.

You mean it's silly because it exposes Nadal

 

[Turning Pro]

Anyone for just purely GS % for the top 10 all time wins?

 

[urban]

Are there ATP numbers for indoor carpet? Or are now all indoor events hard courts?

 

[blablavla]

Are there ATP numbers for indoor carpet? Or are now all indoor events hard courts?

now everything is indoor hard.

but if anyone wants to be objective, then indoor carpet needs to be brought up, just like wood.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Michel my man. How've you been bro??

 

[Lew II]

Big tournaments:

Djokovic #2 on hard, #3 on clay, #3 on grass --> average 2.7
Federer #2 on grass, #6 on hard, #8 on clay --> average 5.3
Nadal #1 on clay, #12 on hard, #12 on grass --> average 8.3

 

[blablavla]

Big tournaments:

Djokovic #2 on hard, #3 on clay, #3 on grass --> average 2.7
Federer #2 on grass, #6 on hard, #8 on clay --> average 5.3
Nadal #1 on clay, #12 on hard, #12 on grass --> average 8.3

carpet?

 

[Antonio Puente]

Big tournaments:

Djokovic #2 on hard, #3 on clay, #3 on grass --> average 2.7

I'm not getting crazy and talking about a whole set or anything, but you would think that would be good enough to get you a game in the first set of the RG final.

 

[NoleFam]

Looking at this, it's not surprising to see Djokovic with a NCYGS and double career Masters. Top 5 across the board? Wow.

Federer is 1st on Grass and 3rd on Hard ,
Djokovic is 1st on hard and 4th on Grass .

This is why they deserve weeks at no.1 record and are so far ahead of everyone in terms of consistency across surfaces .
Legend stuff

Agreed.

 

[Daniel Andrade]

Djokovic is an amazing player, I do hope those good winning percentages translate someday into enough slams só he can be #2 or better.

 

[King No1e]

The claycourter.

Kent Carlsson has the 16th highest win percentage in the Open Era when you don't consider the surface.

clay score 152-48
hardcourt score 7-6
grass score 0-0

To be fair, Kent Carlsson was a Top 10 player in his time. He's no mug.

 

[Third Serve]

Roddick at 10 on grass over Nadal? Interesting. He was very consistent on the surface.

 

[King No1e]

Win percentage in the Open Era:

1) Djokovic is #1 on hard, #4 on grass, #5 on clay --> average position 3.3
2) Federer is #1 on grass, #3 on hard, #13 on clay --> average position 5.7
3) Borg is #2 on clay, #3 on grass, #14 on hard --> average position 6.3
/ Connors is #4 on hard, #7 on clay, #8 on grass --> average position 6.3
5) Laver is #2 on hard, #7 on grass, #15 on clay --> average position 8.0
6) Nadal is #1 on clay, #10 on hard, #15 on grass --> average position 8.7
7) Lendl is #3 on clay, #5 on hard, #22 on grass --> average position 10.0
8) McEnroe is #2 on grass, #6 on hard, #23 on clay --> average position 10.3
9) Rosewall is #4 on clay, #11 on grass, #20 on hard --> average position 11.7
10) Agassi is #8 on hard, #20 on clay, #28 on grass --> average position 18.7

Open Era Win percentages.....
Laver was 30 when the Open Era started. and he's still top 10 on 2 surfaces. Just from the end of his prime. Insane stuff.

 

[King No1e]

Roddick at 10 on grass over Nadal? Interesting. He was very consistent on the surface.

Roddick > Nadal on grass confirmed

 

[Third Serve]

Roddick > Nadal on grass confirmed

read it and weep

 

[ND-13]

The moment you bring in all the courts into picture , you can see how Fed and Djokovic stand out in comparison to Nadal.

 

[NoleFam]

Roddick at 10 on grass over Nadal? Interesting. He was very consistent on the surface.

Underachiever imo.

 

[NoleFam]

The moment you bring in all the courts into picture , you can see how Fed and Djokovic stand out in comparison to Nadal.

Or in comparison to anyone, not just Nadal.

 

[Third Serve]

Underachiever imo.

Yeah, it makes his lack of a Wimbledon title stick out so much more. He basically displayed Slam champion level in 2004 and 2009 and played pretty well in 2003.

 

[NoleFam]

Yeah, it makes his lack of a Wimbledon title stick out so much more. He basically displayed Slam champion level in 2004 and 2009 and played pretty well in 2003.

He should have won in 2009. Put Djokovic's brain in his body and he wins imo. Sad he was that good on grass and never held a Wimbledon title.

 

[Third Serve]

He should have won in 2009. Put Djokovic's brain in his body and he wins imo. Sad he was that good on grass and never held a Wimbledon title.

Yeah, 2009 was absolutely nuts. Something tells me he would have surely converted the win if Fed wasn't across the net.

 

[NoleFam]

Yeah, 2009 was absolutely nuts. Something tells me he would have surely converted the win if Fed wasn't across the net.

Yep. That was his best chance.