Is David Ferrer mentally the worst player ever?

[Newcomer]

Officially his match against Federer isn't over yet, but the outcome is NID, like it was even after the first set. The only reason why I'm even asking this question is because there are also Berdych, Cilic, Nishikori, Dimitrov...All of them are big chokers too. But is Ferrer mentally the worst ever?
Just look at his matches against top players. The only top player against whom Ferrer actually plays well is Nadal, but even against him he choked a lot of matches he should have won-like Madrid 2013 for example. Still remember that point that could bring Ferrer a double match points there.
Against Federer he will be 17-0 down soon. Today Federer played a terrible match but it was clear Ferrer will still find a way to lose. Against Djokovic and Murray he also had much more chances than he used. Worst thing I remember is Paris 2013 final where he was 5-3 up against Djokovic in both sets, and ended losing both 7-5. The guy is completely AWFUL. He can be trusted only in making double faults and hitting forehands to the net on big points.

 

[EdMcMush]

Ferrer is very mentally tough. Never gives up and really maximized his talent. He just isnt as talented as the others

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Ferrer mentally the worst player ever? No, that would be your face.

 

[KingKyrgios]

Cilic

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

strange... isn't there like some smell of 60's weed in the air ?

 

[Amalhotra]

Berdy's your man

 

[KingKyrgios]

Actually he beat the mental giant Humbullito 6 freakin times !!!

How tf dare you call him weak

 

[PrinceMoron]

strange... isn't there like some smell of 60's weed in the air ?

NID



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[EdMcMush]

ferrer mental strength is what kept him in the top 10 for 10 plus years

 

[TheFifthSet]

The only one he maybe underachieves against is Federer.

5-16 against Djokovic, 6-14 against Murray (1 win in a major) and 6-24 against Nadal (2 wins in majors, and 21 of those matches were played on clay, he's a respectable 4-5 on non-clay surfaces) is what you'd expect from a player of his caliber.


Here are some other notable H2H's:

vs. Wawrinka 7-7
vs. Delpo 6-4
vs. Roddick 7-4
vs. Berdych 8-8
vs. Gasquet 10-3
vs. Nalbandian 9-5
vs. Isner 7-2
vs. Davy 2-4
vs. Nishi 4-10
vs. Cilic 4-2
vs. Tsonga 3-1
vs. Raonic 4-0
vs. Hewitt 3-1
vs. Dimitrov 5-1
vs. Monfils 3-3
vs. Coria 1-4
vs. Ferrero 7-2
vs. Ljubicic 6-1
vs. Soderling 4-9
vs. Verdasco 14-8
vs. Almagro 15-1
vs. Fog 11-0
vs. Lopez 11-8
vs. Stepanek 10-3


He acquitted himself pretty well, if you ask me.



(btw, knew he was a great returner but never realized just how much of a terror he was to big servers, relative to his accomplishments. 4-1 against Karlovic too.)

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

ferrer mental strength is what kept him in the top 10 for 10 plus years

Now come on, who's to say OP hasn't been the Top 9 players for 10 plus years?

 

[MasturB]

Probably Dimitrov.

 

[EdMcMush]

never saw him play but seems like an even more mentally weak player could be Safin

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

How come the mental giant OP hasn't responded in his/her own thread?

 

[KingKyrgios]

Probably Dimitrov.

Nahh ferrer's game is just better.
Dimi has always been incredibly overrated given him resembling fed tho hes a homeless man's version of fed.

 

[Candide]

Classic TT thread. Mentally very strong.

 

[Newcomer]

That's it, 17-0. I had no doubt even after the first set. I knew this mug will choke like he always does. I wonder if that can become the worst head to head ever seen in tennis. Maybe it already is.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

That's it, 17-0. I had no doubt even after the first set. I knew this mug will choke like he always does. I wonder if that can become the worst head to head ever seen in tennis. Maybe it already is.

At least he's only 0-17 against just one GOAT.

You'll probably be 0-100 against everyone on the tour.

 

[Chadillac]

Maybe Fed stepped it up?

He is the most intelligent in the history of tennis, think your putting this too much on Ferrer

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Surely a thread about criticizing Bautista-Agut is coming tomorrow.

 

[Newcomer]

Maybe Fed stepped it up?

He is the most intelligent in the history of tennis, think your putting this too much on Ferrer

Name me another player who is THAT bad against Federer. Today Federer was very much beatable.

 

[mike danny]

ferrer mental strength is what kept him in the top 10 for 10 plus years

He didn't stay in the top 10 for that long.

 

[Chadillac]

Name me another player who is THAT bad against Federer. Today Federer was very much beatable.

Roddick

 

[mike danny]

never saw him play but seems like an even more mentally weak player could be Safin

Ferrer could never in a million years have done what Safin did at the 2005 AO. So no, Safin wasn't mentally weak.

 

[MasturB]

Nahh ferrer's game is just better.
Dimi has always been incredibly overrated given him resembling fed tho hes a homeless man's version of fed.

Not sure if I'd say overrated. He has two slam semis to his name. Won titles on all surfaces.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

You sound a bit disappointed, OP.

 

[mike danny]

Roddick

Roddick has 3 wins over Fed.

 

[mike danny]

Name me another player who is THAT bad against Federer. Today Federer was very much beatable.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/roger-federer-vs-mikhail-youzhny/F324/Y061

 

[Fabresque]

Ferrer is one of the mentally strongest players on tour, this thread deserves to be deleted for its ignorance.

If you want to talk about poor mentality talk about Marin Cilic and Jack Sock

 

[Noelan]

Mikhael Youznhy 16 0 top 10 player from the stronger era 2007/2010 I guess you remember USO 2010 SF.

 

[marc45]

Officially his match against Federer isn't over yet, but the outcome is NID, like it was even after the first set. The only reason why I'm even asking this question is because there are also Berdych, Cilic, Nishikori, Dimitrov...All of them are big chokers too. But is Ferrer mentally the worst ever?
Just look at his matches against top players. The only top player against whom Ferrer actually plays well is Nadal, but even against him he choked a lot of matches he should have won-like Madrid 2013 for example. Still remember that point that could bring Ferrer a double match points there.
Against Federer he will be 17-0 down soon. Today Federer played a terrible match but it was clear Ferrer will still find a way to lose. Against Djokovic and Murray he also had much more chances than he used. Worst thing I remember is Paris 2013 final where he was 5-3 up against Djokovic in both sets, and ended losing both 7-5. The guy is completely AWFUL. He can be trusted only in making double faults and hitting forehands to the net on big points.

said it in PMR, and before...but I've never seen a guy who loses serve more when serving for a set against the top guy than him.....but he is the underdog, up against it against the bigger, more talented guys

 

[Newcomer]

Ferrer is one of the mentally strongest players on tour, this thread deserves to be deleted for its ignorance.

If you want to talk about poor mentality talk about Marin Cilic and Jack Sock

Ferrer, Berdych and Cilic are the trio of mental midgets.

 

[Newcomer]

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/roger-federer-vs-mikhail-youzhny/F324/Y061

True. At least Youzhny wasn't a "top player" for such a long time.

 

[Talker]

Ferrer is a tough player, really pushes himself.

Against Federer it's just a match up problem.

The way Ferrer hits against Federer is just the kind of ball Fed handles the best and Ferrer has no plan B.

 

[Fabresque]

Ferrer, Berdych and Cilic are the trio of mental midgets.

Why do you constantly attack Ferrer calling him a "mug" and "midget" because he has a lopsided record against one of the greatest of all time? If not the greatest? You'd be 0-100000 against anyone in the top 1500 mate.

 

[Newcomer]

Why do you constantly attack Ferrer calling him a "mug" and "midget" because he has a lopsided record against one of the greatest of all time? If not the greatest? You'd be 0-100000 against anyone in the top 1500 mate.

I'm not a tennis player so your comment is irrelevant. Ferrer isn't that bad only against Federer.

 

[Logic]

Officially his match against Federer isn't over yet, but the outcome is NID, like it was even after the first set.

To answer your question in the style of Roddick, I think you are the mentally weak one, OP.

You have let your hatred of Federer affect your mindset so thoroughly that you've come here to cry about the best player of the year beating someone ranked outside the top thirty, a completely expected result. With greater mental strength you could have just shrugged off the outcome as that of an ordinary tennis match. Perhaps you should study the ever-resilient David Ferrer to learn a thing or two.

 

[Booger]

No, man. Hell no.

 

[Steve0904]

It's only glaringly apparent when he plays Federer. I don't have the stats, but I'd say he makes errors that he would never normally make and hits more DFs. He's not that great against other top players either, but at least he has wins over them.

Against most of the rest of the tour he's a mental titan though so this thread is ridiculous and in very poor taste.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Roddick

Roddick could actually beat Fed though.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

I'm not a tennis player so your comment is irrelevant. Ferrer isn't that bad only against Federer.

I wonder if that's what Trump says behind closed doors. "I'm not a politician, so your comment is irrelevant".

Also, it all makes sense now.

 

[Chadillac]

Roddick could actually beat Fed though.

Only when Fed was really bad. Ferrer is just a match up issue, same with roddick

 

[Deleted member 307496]

He didn't stay in the top 10 for that long.

More like 5 years which is average.

 

[True Fanerer]

Ferrer mentally the worst player ever? No, that would

Its Tomas Berdych without a doubt. Never could of in a million years be as consistent as the top tier but should have a stolen a slam OR two by now and a Masters 1000 or two. Dimitrov what are you doing? Hes on a similar path to doom. Someone as talented as Ferrer should have managed by now to defeat Roger atleast once cmon. IMO worst mentally ever vs Fed feels like the true answer here. Hard pressed to find someone of Ferrers calibur without a win(havent stat checked that btw

 

[QuentinFederer]

Ferrer is mentally very tough.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Only when Fed was really bad. Ferrer is just a match up issue, same with roddick

Ferrer couldn't beat Fed even when he's playing really bad.

Furthermore, Roddick beat Fed when he was playing well at Montreal or Cincinnati in '03.

 

[Chadillac]

Ferrer couldn't beat Fed even when he's playing really bad.

Furthermore, Roddick beat Fed when he was playing well at Montreal or Cincinnati in '03.

And never beat him again until 2012, thats a long time for the #2 to not beat the #1. Two players who both like the same surface.

 

[mike danny]

And never beat him again until 2012, thats a long time for the #2 to not beat the #1. Two players who both like the same surface.

Actually he beat him again in Miami in 2008.

 

[mike danny]

The only one he maybe underachieves against is Federer.

5-16 against Djokovic, 6-14 against Murray (1 win in a major) and 6-24 against Nadal (2 wins in majors, and 21 of those matches were played on clay, he's a respectable 4-5 on non-clay surfaces) is what you'd expect from a player of his caliber.


Here are some other notable H2H's:

vs. Wawrinka 7-7
vs. Delpo 6-4
vs. Roddick 7-4
vs. Berdych 8-8
vs. Gasquet 10-3
vs. Nalbandian 9-5
vs. Isner 7-2
vs. Davy 2-4
vs. Nishi 4-10
vs. Cilic 4-2
vs. Tsonga 3-1
vs. Raonic 4-0
vs. Hewitt 3-1
vs. Dimitrov 5-1
vs. Monfils 3-3
vs. Coria 1-4
vs. Ferrero 7-2
vs. Ljubicic 6-1
vs. Soderling 4-9
vs. Verdasco 14-8
vs. Almagro 15-1
vs. Fog 11-0
vs. Lopez 11-8
vs. Stepanek 10-3


He acquitted himself pretty well, if you ask me.



(btw, knew he was a great returner but never realized just how much of a terror he was to big servers, relative to his accomplishments. 4-1 against Karlovic too.)

The clay thing doesn't apply to Ferrer though. Clay is Ferrer's favorite surface too, like Nadal's.

Also Ferrer's record against Berdych in majors in atrocious.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Actually he beat him again in Miami in 2008.

And after 2004 Roddick reliquished the No. 2 ranking. From 2006 until 2011 he was usually ranked like 6.