Today is World Suicide Prevention Day
- Thread starter ollinger
- Start date
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
There is a bridge at a nearby University that connected the campus from the dorm towers and a series of deaths of students jumping off the bridge. They added fences to the bridge and I heard no more reports afterwards. This was about a decade ago. So removing opportunity can make a big difference. High-school and college is when mental health problems can show up.
Hey @ollinger is this constitutional?
Trump administration considers monitoring smartphones of people with mental health problems
The Trump administration is considering a proposal to combat mass shootings which suggests phones and smartwatches may be used to track people with mental health problems.
Trump administration considers monitoring smartphones of people with mental health problems
The Trump administration is considering a proposal to combat mass shootings which suggests phones and smartwatches may be used to track people with mental health problems.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
There are places to call if being suicidal. For free!
Remember that! can also be anonymous calls. Specially men have a harder time talking about these thoughts. Just talking and sharing helps a lot. Family and friends can be just as good support as a psychiatrist. But first of all sharing it, these help lines have saved many.
I think anyone with a gun should be monitored, except law enforcement. And the information should be available to everyone in real time. An alert should pop up in my phone if there is any gun around. Like the First Amendment does not prevent anyone from finding out what you say but only allows you to say it, same should be true here.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
Not so long ago I watched a movie where people go to commit suicide in a forest. The place is called Aokigahara or the Suicide Forest located somewhere on the northwest side of Japan. Apparently the suicide rate is higher at the start of year.
I enjoyed the movie as it had a few layers to it. Should watch it again.
I enjoyed the movie as it had a few layers to it. Should watch it again.
I watched that movie too.
And the twist at the end about who killed her sister was good, but I anticipated it.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
Mike Bulgakov
G.O.A.T.
Osamu Dazai and Suicide in Japan
Osamu Dazai (1909-1948) is one of Japan's most revered writers with the semi-autobiographical Ningen Shikkaku (人間失格）- No Longer Human - a modern-day classic that remains one of the all-time best-selling works of fiction in Japan (see here for a short review). The story is about a young man's isolation and alienation from society - his failure to identify with or understand other human beings - and describes a spiral of self-destruction that results in a failed suicide attempt. The author too made a number of suicide attempts, beginning at age twenty and ending just before his 39th birthday when he drowned himself together with his lover in the rain-swollen Tamagawa River. He is buried at Zenrin Temple (禅林寺) in Mitaka, Tokyo; when I visited there was still incense burning in front of the grave (pictured), no doubt one of his many fans paying their respects. Note also the fresh flowers, including some white chrysanthemum (shiragiku =白菊）a flower of condolence in Japan.
Japan has the reputation of having a high suicide rate, thanks to famous figures like Dazai and also Yukio Mishima, and this image is reinforced by films such as "The Sea of Trees" (追憶の森), starring Ken Watanabe, about Japan's infamous "suicide forest" (Aokigahara=青木ヶ原) at the base of Mount Fuji. Certainly, in every day life, it is not uncommon for a train to be delayed due to a "human accident" or jinshin-jiko (人身事故) which is often a euphemism for someone jumping in front of a train (tobikomi). However, in recent years the number of suicides have actually fallen quite significantly with 21,897 deaths in 2016, a drop of more than 12,000 compared to the 2003 peak (MHLW White Paper here). WHO data for 2015 year ranks Japan at 18th in the world with 19.7 suicides per 100,000 (15.4 or 26th when adjusted for differences in age distribution). Nevertheless, suicide rates in Japan are high compared to other industrialised countries (almost double that of Britain for example) and youth suicides have been on the rise; Japan is the only G7 country in which suicide is the leading cause of death for 15-34 year-olds.
http://abritishprofinjapan.blogspot.com/2017/12/osamu-dazai--suicide-japan.html
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
Sounds like an unwarranted search to me. And laws have also been declared unconstitutional if they're impossibly vague -- what constitutes a mental health problem, how severe a problem, would potentially include half the country
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
Megachurch Pastor Jarrid Wilson, known for his mental health advocacy, dies by suicide.
www.nbcnews.com
Dude talks the talk and walks the walk
. .ssigh.....chronic..
Megachurch pastor Jarrid Wilson, known for his mental health advocacy, dies by suicide
“Sometimes people may think that as pastors or spiritual leaders we are somehow above the pain and struggles of everyday people,” the church's senior pastor wrote.
www.nbcnews.com
Dude talks the talk and walks the walk
. .'classically-speaking' that was then, .alas, .this is now..Bartelby said:
. .ssigh.....chronic..
Last edited:
You did not. Liar.
The sister was not killed, right? I got confused.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
You got the right movie but that was not it. This was just one of those movies that require a lot of attention to details. I can't give it away in case someone wants to watch it.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Philosophy does not change that quickly.
If people use big words and ideas they don't know the meaning of then be it own their own head.
He should have specified the parties or politicians he was actually referring to rather than over-generalise.
As-salamu alaykum
If people use big words and ideas they don't know the meaning of then be it own their own head.
He should have specified the parties or politicians he was actually referring to rather than over-generalise.
As-salamu alaykum
C
Chadalina
Guest
You shouldnt feel triggered to repeat the same thing over and over, believe it or not, its a problem
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)
Unwanted thoughts or habits that stand in the way of everyday life may be obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). Learn about its symptoms and treatment.
www.webmd.com
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
C
Chadalina
Guest
Denial is also common.
Face the facts, you have become a polical broken record. Do you ever ask yourself why your compelled to write the same thing over and over?
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Why do you feel compelled to address me over and over again? And I wasn't even addressing you.
Why don't you try to contribute to a substantive topic? Personal abuse is bad argument and bad manners.
Why don't you try to contribute to a substantive topic? Personal abuse is bad argument and bad manners.
C
Chadalina
Guest
Dumb topic imo
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
I'm explaining not jokingYou did it again...
The first time I was quoting Fedpo's poast. This time a RAFA fan was making a lame joke at Fedr fans expense. That particular joke is just the go to one that I use as an example since it's the most used one.
If true that is 100 percent wrong but you said nothing when Obama used the NSA to illegally spy
Total hypocrite
We had a huge win today on the Supreme Court : How many more tens of millions can we take in until we become worse than the nations they left
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Your culture is Jewish, as you never cease to tell us, so you have hardly assimilated. And then there's AIPAC.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Obama did not announce it so clearly to me and the NSA also did not let me know.
He is coming after anyone taking any psychiatric medicine and with the current level of anti-Semitism, you should be very concerned. As shootings escalate, the NRA and right-wing militias are trying to blame mentally ill people. It is just like the days when cigarette companies used to target teenagers and then claim that the parents were at fault for not enforcing discipline.
Trump is the most pro Israel president since Nixon
He still abused people illegally
Jews are being beaten up and assaulted all over Brooklyn by “youths “
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Quite often, these mass shooters do not exhibit any serious mental health issues. Tens of millions are on psychiatric medication and it is impossible to screen for mass shooters based on that medication criteria. Too general.
Marvin Swartz, a professor in psychiatry at Duke University, said research has shown that even if society were to cure serious mental illness, total violence would decline by only about 4 percent. He said he's seen no evidence that more psychiatric beds would reduce mass homicides or individual homicides.
"It would be a good thing to have more treatment resources, but the effect on gun violence would be minuscule," Swartz said.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
C
Chadalina
Guest
Edu = LOL now a days
Genious at Work
G.O.A.T.
That would be true because the percentage of people with a psychiatric history is probably much lower than the pecentage of people who don't have one, and not because someone with a psychiatric history is less likely to attack somene.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
There might be some explanation suggested by the researchers for this.
Maybe people with history are more likely to be on medication that sedates them? Or they are more serious cases who cannot attack ? Or many of them are supervised/accompanied etc ???
Does psych history include people who are depressed/suicidal, I wonder if such people would want to attack anyone.
Genious at Work
G.O.A.T.
I don't know, those are legitimate questions. I was just commenting on the statistical fact. It's like saying you are more likely to die from a bee sting than from a tiger mauling. That doesn't mean bee stings are more dangerous than tiger maulings. Just that more people die from bee stings because bee stings are much more common than tiger maulings and some percentage of the population have a lethal allergic reaction to them.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
no, the data work when looked at from either direction, i.e., the percentage of psych patients committing assaults is lower than the percentage of the rest of the population committing them
Genious at Work
G.O.A.T.
No kidding? I would have never guessed this.
C
Chadalina
Guest
Probably because all of the recent mass shooters were on ssri's. Cherry picking data, selective groupings etc
The term "psych patient" also wasnt defined, perhaps they studied those in institutions, lol
navigator
Hall of Fame
Actually... the US spends over $1 trillion a year on social programs of various stripes (including "welfare" - unemployment benefits, Medicaid, etc.), EXcluding Social Security and Medicare. So, it's a big number, larger than any other industrial nation on an aggregate basis, but certainly lower than most industrial nations on a per-recipient basis (US has a larger population). Anyhow, just thought you'd want that cleared up.
Similar threads
