Tourna Big Hitter Black 7

SteveI

Legend
Yeah, I already worked out my per job cost. :) On the 99S, I only need 30 feet to string it and with BHB7 that works out to $4.54 a set. That's down from $11.59 for 4G. Sounds like an IQ test to me :)

I would try the 16G in your 99S. Seems much more stable and durable in an open spin friendly frame. Good luck in your quest..
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I would try the 16G in your 99S. Seems much more stable and durable in an open spin friendly frame. Good luck in your quest..

:) I just ordered a reel of the 17. I figured I liked it so much, I'd at least go through a reel of it first. I was definitely on the fence, but figured if durability was an issue, I'd go to 16 next. This string through the ball is like a hot knife through soft butter which isn't something you find too often in a poly.

I was just worried about the 16 being too different than the 17. Your thoughts?

Thanks, Steve!
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
well as a follow up, i just got back from playing. I hit through the BHB7 17 gauge in 5 hours. It is a fine hitting string nonetheless.
 

PKfan1

Semi-Pro
Has anyone tried bhb7 w/ a smooth poly cross with good results?

I'm interested to possibly increase the durability and keep it from eating itself so quickly.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Has anyone tried bhb7 w/ a smooth poly cross with good results?

I'm interested to possibly increase the durability and keep it from eating itself so quickly.

My main setup is VS Natural Gut mains and BHB7 Crosses.

But I did try a set up with BHB7 mains and Gosen Sidewinder Crosses. I didn't like it as much.
 

Hoons54

Rookie
Has anyone tried bhb7 w/ a smooth poly cross with good results?

I'm interested to possibly increase the durability and keep it from eating itself so quickly.

I crossed it with Weiss canon scorpion and it was too powerful in my Apdgt. Lower powered string such as silverstring might work better.
 

SteveI

Legend
:) I just ordered a reel of the 17. I figured I liked it so much, I'd at least go through a reel of it first. I was definitely on the fence, but figured if durability was an issue, I'd go to 16 next. This string through the ball is like a hot knife through soft butter which isn't something you find too often in a poly.

I was just worried about the 16 being too different than the 17. Your thoughts?

Thanks, Steve!

The 16G plays very much like the 17G but seems to less springy and maintain better control. The power is of course better is with the 17G, the 16G seemed to let me swing out for more hours during the stringjob life. The difference is not major IMHO just a better fit for my game and frame.

Don't think you can go wrong with either...enjoy! Much better deal than the Lux 4G..:)

SteveI
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
The 16G plays very much like the 17G but seems to less springy and maintain better control. The power is of course better is with the 17G, the 16G seemed to let me swing out for more hours during the stringjob life. The difference is not major IMHO just a better fit for my game and frame.

Don't think you can go wrong with either...enjoy! Much better deal than the Lux 4G..:)

SteveI

Thanks, jefe! I'll try a reel of 17 gauge and then order a few sets of the 16 for comparison. I like the 17 gauge so much, i hated to tamper with it at all. 5 hours of play is plenty good for me right now.

This string proves a $ amount does not have a thing to do with how well it plays, at least for polys.
 

SteveI

Legend
Thanks, jefe! I'll try a reel of 17 gauge and then order a few sets of the 16 for comparison. I like the 17 gauge so much, i hated to tamper with it at all. 5 hours of play is plenty good for me right now.

This string proves a $ amount does not have a thing to do with how well it plays, at least for polys.

Great price and it plays wonderful. Another really nice playing string for a great price is MSV Focus Hex. $76.99 a reel? Hard to beat..
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
17 gauge is lasting about 5 hours. It plays great. Where 4G was plush, this feels more like gut. :) And it's 1/3 the price. This string is awesome. On my next reel, I may go with the 1.30, but since I don't mind stringing and it's only $4.50 a string bed, I'm cool.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Does it not slice right through the gut?

Yeah now that you mention it, it doesn't last that long. It's like after a few hours, I notice the control drops considerably.

I guess I'll try BHB7 Mains and Natural Gut crosses with my next string job.
 
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naturallight

Semi-Pro
Hi, can anyone compare BHB7 with Kirschbaum Pro Line II? I realize these are fairly different strings but would be curious to hear your thoughts, especially on the differences in comfort level.

thanks
 

Sander001

Hall of Fame
Hi, can anyone compare BHB7 with Kirschbaum Pro Line II? I realize these are fairly different strings but would be curious to hear your thoughts, especially on the differences in comfort level.

thanks
BHB717 is definitely more comfortable, even compared to Pro Line 2 1.15.
BHB717 is very good but after 4 or 5hrs, I can't play with it at all. Too much loss of spin and control.
While Pro Line 2 1.15 and 1.20 is good for well over 10hrs, perhaps much more and plays well and comfortably throughout[though I now add lubricant to my strings every few hours so this may got something to do with it].
Pro Line is definitely more control orientated too, which additionally helps with its longevity; even when tension falls, there's still good control to be had.
I went with a black reel of Pro Line 2 1.20.
 
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naturallight

Semi-Pro
Wow, I feel like PL2 is pretty cushy, interesting to hear that BHB7 is more comfortable.

What is more comfortable between BHB7 and BHBR?
 

Tmano

Hall of Fame
I finally bought a couple of sets of this BHB7 17 and I strung a youtek prestige pro full bed at 48lbs.
My first impression in one word was "stiff without feel". yes it produces some nice spin but lack in power especially when serving and again I did not see all that pocketing that a lot of people are talking about. However control is good. After about 3 hours of playing the strings are moving already.
Maybe I should have strung it lower than 48lbs but I figured that if I string the MPMP at 46lbs it would have worked...I guess I was wrong.

I will try the string on the MPMP probably around 40lbs to see how it performs.
 

PKfan1

Semi-Pro
Has anyone tried prestretching BHB7?

I tried it today, but it broke after one set so I have no idea if the tension held any better. I strung it at 58lbs with 10% prestretch on a bab star 5. While it lasted if felt similar to no prestretch at 60lbs.
 

SCRAP IRON

Professional
Wow, I feel like PL2 is pretty cushy, interesting to hear that BHB7 is more comfortable.

What is more comfortable between BHB7 and BHBR?
I just played with this Tourna string (BHBR17) and I have to tell you that it has serious power and is quite comfortable. I can see why this string is so highly rated. That's the good news. The bad news is the fact that I am losing too much control which I believe defeats the purpose of using a full poly bed. I do swing hard and the spin is there, but I am somewhat reluctant to use a tension higher than the 54 lbs that I just recently completed 5 sets with. I fear some arm trouble if I were to go at any higher tensions.

With that said, my solution is simple. Though I have spent a lot of money with various strings, I can at least say that I know the differences and that can benefit my game in the long run. Most poly strings are not as powerful as the BHBR7. It is a great starter poly for an advanced player that has primarily been using synthetic gut and or multis.
 

naturallight

Semi-Pro
What is more comfortable between BHB7 and BHBR?


Hi, just wondering if there was any more feedback on what's more comfortable--BHBR or BHB7?

From the TW ratings, BHB7 is way less stiff (175 vs 210) and has a much lower string friction rating (0.088 vs 0.128 which is a big difference). So it seems like BHB7 should be the clear winner in the comfort department.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/reviews/UBHBK17/UBHBK17Review.html

But from searching past comments, it seems a lot of people regard BHBR as a little softer, although there's not that many direct comparisons I can find. Not sure if I'm missing something here.

thanks!
 

jonestim

Hall of Fame
BHB7 feels a little softer to me than BHBR. Both 16g strung @45 in a Diablo Mid. BHSR is a hair stiffer than both and was quite muted for me. Odd feeling that I didn't care for, probably because my racquet is already muted.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
BHSR is a hair stiffer than both and was quite muted for me. .

Thanks. I will prob hybrid BHSR and do BHB7 full bed. I generally play with Cyclone 17 full bed at 48 CP and wonder how it is compared to the Tourna strings inquestion. Might drop the tension next time. That has been my go to string for the past couple months. I have that strung up and currently hitting with Tier One T1 Firewire. It is a triangular shaped string which has some zip to it...def feels firmer than Cyclone. I will be stringing up the BHB7 in a couple weeks or so.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
I'm either doing something right or something wrong. BHB7 is now lasting about 3 hours :)

When someone asks if I cooked a certain dish I ask them, "did you like it...and if you did then I did cook it"

It's right if it's a good thing ;) Do tell what you have done different.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
When someone asks if I cooked a certain dish I ask them, "did you like it...and if you did then I did cook it"

It's right if it's a good thing ;) Do tell what you have done different.

My best guess is this: The softer nature of BHB7 (compared to Lux 4G) has encouraged me to swing out, more racquet head speed.

The guys I play against have noted more spin and pace off my shots. The last set of string lasted me 4 sets and 30 minutes of hitting.
 

Tmano

Hall of Fame
Thanks. I will prob hybrid BHSR and do BHB7 full bed. I generally play with Cyclone 17 full bed at 48 CP and wonder how it is compared to the Tourna strings inquestion. Might drop the tension next time. That has been my go to string for the past couple months. I have that strung up and currently hitting with Tier One T1 Firewire. It is a triangular shaped string which has some zip to it...def feels firmer than Cyclone. I will be stringing up the BHB7 in a couple weeks or so.

in my opinion,

BHB7 stiffer than BHS and BHSR

BHB7 and Cyclone stiffness is pretty much the same and also they share plastic feeling

BHSR less stiffer and with some more power than BHS
 

mike84

Professional
I'm either doing something right or something wrong. BHB7 is now lasting about 3 hours :)

I got you beat.

Broke 3 BHB7 in 3 hour match, no shanks all clean brakes, k95 factor 52 pounds.

So far BHB7 durability is 3/10.

Guess I am ready for kevlar lol
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I got you beat.

Broke 3 BHB7 in 3 hour match, no shanks all clean brakes, k95 factor 52 pounds.

So far BHB7 durability is 3/10.

Guess I am ready for kevlar lol

:)

Yes, you do! I don't know if this is just a down time for my game or if it's tied to BHB7, but I have seen my level drop off. So, after breaking a set yesterday, I've gone back to Lux 4G. We'll see if it's just a trough period for me or if it was the string change.
 

rofl_copter3

Professional
Bhb7 seems to have a major drop in play and start going everywhere on me after a few hours of play... I'm not a string breaker too often but these are breaking on me if I don't restring within two or so matches with warm up hitting...
 

bad_call

Legend
Bhb7 seems to have a major drop in play and start going everywhere on me after a few hours of play... I'm not a string breaker too often but these are breaking on me if I don't restring within two or so matches with warm up hitting...

not a desirable attribute unless u like restringing often.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
the verdict is in...

after running through about half a reel of BHB7, I have determined that it is not the string 4G is.

Pros
Right off the stringer, BHB7 is much, much more comfortable than 4G.

Price - you aren't going to find many as inexpensive as this

Cons
Once it gets notched pretty good, playability goes downhill.

Durability - given its lower price, it may be as expensive as 4G since you have to put it in more frequently. My last two string jobs lasted 3 and 2 sets respectively.

Evens
Spin - while BHB7 was rated by TW as tops in spin, my experience was about even. I found both strings to produce spin in equal fashion.

Power - again, no clear winner here



Comparison with 4G

I found 4G to have better control, and 4G plays better around the net.
 

Sander001

Hall of Fame
the verdict is in...

after running through about half a reel of BHB7, I have determined that it is not the string 4G is.

Pros
Right off the stringer, BHB7 is much, much more comfortable than 4G.

Price - you aren't going to find many as inexpensive as this

Cons
Once it gets notched pretty good, playability goes downhill.

Durability - given its lower price, it may be as expensive as 4G since you have to put it in more frequently. My last two string jobs lasted 3 and 2 sets respectively.

Evens
Spin - while BHB7 was rated by TW as tops in spin, my experience was about even. I found both strings to produce spin in equal fashion.

Power - again, no clear winner here



Comparison with 4G

I found 4G to have better control, and 4G plays better around the net.
Went through half a reel in 3 weeks?? Damn, how often you play?
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Went through half a reel in 3 weeks?? Damn, how often you play?

LMAO - I know....

Well, I joined a tennis-only club here in town. They have 13 Har Tru courts, 4 outdoor hard courts and 4 indoor hard courts. I have been playing 4 - 5 times a week. The members are hard core tennis and rather than play two sets and a tiebreak, they play 3 full sets. As a matter of fact, most times if one team wins in straight sets, a 3rd set is played regardless. I have also, at the just turned age of 55, been involved in 2 matches that turned into 3/5 sets.

I am playing more now than I have in a long time. :)
 

djNEiGht

Legend
Rabbit - that's good to hear you are getting some quality tennis.

I just strung up a full bed of 17g at 48# CP. Prev experience was a hybrid. Doing the crosses are a pain the the rear. I am testing it against Tier One T1 Firewire ( a triangular string)
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
the really funny thing with BHB7 is that even though it's softer than 4G, I could feel fatigue in my arm with it where I never felt any problems with 4G.
 

precision2b

Semi-Pro
LMAO - I know....

Well, I joined a tennis-only club here in town. They have 13 Har Tru courts, 4 outdoor hard courts and 4 indoor hard courts. I have been playing 4 - 5 times a week. The members are hard core tennis and rather than play two sets and a tiebreak, they play 3 full sets. As a matter of fact, most times if one team wins in straight sets, a 3rd set is played regardless. I have also, at the just turned age of 55, been involved in 2 matches that turned into 3/5 sets.

I am playing more now than I have in a long time. :)

Rabbit, be careful! That was me 2 years ago. Now I need a hip replacement and am down to only doubles on Saturdays and the doctor told me NO TENNIS AT ALL!!! He wants to wait a few more years before I have the surgery (I will be 60 in January) but I can’t give up tennis completely. Now most of my tennis was singles and I wish I had started playing doubles a long time ago…
 

bad_call

Legend
LMAO - I know....

Well, I joined a tennis-only club here in town. They have 13 Har Tru courts, 4 outdoor hard courts and 4 indoor hard courts. I have been playing 4 - 5 times a week. The members are hard core tennis and rather than play two sets and a tiebreak, they play 3 full sets. As a matter of fact, most times if one team wins in straight sets, a 3rd set is played regardless. I have also, at the just turned age of 55, been involved in 2 matches that turned into 3/5 sets.

I am playing more now than I have in a long time. :)

sweet...13 hartru and hard core players. need to visit Rabbit. :)
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Rabbit, be careful! That was me 2 years ago. Now I need a hip replacement and am down to only doubles on Saturdays and the doctor told me NO TENNIS AT ALL!!! He wants to wait a few more years before I have the surgery (I will be 60 in January) but I can’t give up tennis completely. Now most of my tennis was singles and I wish I had started playing doubles a long time ago…

Man, I hate to hear that. I have been approached about singles and may play some, but I'm primarily a doubles player and always have been.

sweet...13 hartru and hard core players. need to visit Rabbit. :)

Anytime! The greatest thing about the club is that there is no golf! :) Everybody is tennis-centric. There is also a bar for after match gatherings. I love it.
 

Egoista

Professional
Am about to string this

Has anyone strung it at 46

a friend told me it is too lose at that and the spin he was getting was nothing compared to what was being advertised

He regularly played 48 tension

any views

thanks
 

cmendez79

Semi-Pro
Am about to string this

Has anyone strung it at 46

a friend told me it is too lose at that and the spin he was getting was nothing compared to what was being advertised

He regularly played 48 tension

any views

thanks

I strung my 315 at 48 and felt very stiff, since I use Black Widow at 48 I thought to be the same, but my elbow was a little bit sore after playing with BHB7 at 48.

I will try at 46 , otherwise I will stick with black widow at 48.
 

DustinW

Professional
I have 8 hours on a full set of BHB7 16 strung at 56#. Interesting string. I loved it for the first two hours... crisp, tons of bite, and plenty of control. After those first few hours, it definitely became more elastic and springy, which I though affected depth control (especially on serves and volleys). Then around the 6-7 hour mark, either I got used to it or it changed again. Still springy, but a little more dead... which lessened the springy effect.
 

Egoista

Professional
I strung my 315 at 48 and felt very stiff, since I use Black Widow at 48 I thought to be the same, but my elbow was a little bit sore after playing with BHB7 at 48.

I will try at 46 , otherwise I will stick with black widow at 48.

Appreciate it.
Any update from your end on playing with it at 46?

I will post my experience below
 

Egoista

Professional
So me and a friend of mine strung it at 46 and had a couple of days of hitting with it.

For reference hes like a goodish 4.0
Im what I would say a very good 3.5 but weak 4.0
Played D3 tennis in the states for 4 years and tennis in general for around 14yrs

His stick Prestige mid Innegra
My current Donnay Gold Mid 94

Okay so heres the delio.
Normally I play with the big hitter blue rough.
Love the pacific xforce 17g
Solinco tour bite soft etc.....So you get the drift of the kinds of strings I normally play with.

Well for me this string was a big let down. Bought it due to all the hype on the boards here. Did not find the outrageous spin that everyone boasts about. Did not like the smooth feel of it yet no feeling in my shots if you get what I mean.
Hell the Pacific for me had more spin. And blue rough tourna.
Developed a pain in my shoulder that is not leaving.

Overall most disappointing was the lack of spin and power. Not for me. Dont think Im a good enough player for it.

Better players would enjoy it.

Am going to try the Silver Rough soon 17guage. Am curious if anyone has tried that and what their experience is as compared to the Solinco Tour bite soft in terms of
Spin
Power
Control
 

cmendez79

Semi-Pro
Appreciate it.
Any update from your end on playing with it at 46?

I will post my experience below

Its not exactly an update,...

but I played again last night with the same racket that had initially strung at 48 lbs.... it has been 2 weeks since that match, so probably the racket is around 40 pounds....

It played great.....great spin and power even thu it felt a little stiffer than black widow it plays great at low tensions.

I think is a fair comment to say that it would be play great at 44 or 46.
 
Can anyone compare this to Kirschbaum Spiky Shark. I currently use Spiky shark and I am looking to try BHB7. Is it softer, does it have more spin?

Thanks in advance!

I would also like to know about the Spiky Shark comparison. Especially with the SS on sale right now ;-) Thoughts anyone?
 

Shaun

Rookie
Which Tourna string would you guys think will play closest to Luxilon ALU Power Rough? BHSR, BHBR, or this Black 7?
 

naturallight

Semi-Pro
I tried BHB7 recently. Pros: great spin, power, & especially comfort. Cons: very elasticy (like a multi) which really inhibited control.

I could see someone coming over from a multi really liking this string. But I need a control-oriented, "dead" poly and this wasn't it.
 
Rabbit - that's good to hear you are getting some quality tennis.

I just strung up a full bed of 17g at 48# CP. Prev experience was a hybrid. Doing the crosses are a pain the the rear. I am testing it against Tier One T1 Firewire ( a triangular string)

Are you trying T1 Firewire as a hybrid or full set? We are always interested in what our customers think about our strings....
 
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