When will an American man win a Grand Slam again?
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stringertom
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I had such high hopes for Fritzie to fix American tennis on the fritz so it’s nice he bounced back from the fedr drubbing at AO to win the Newport Beach Challenger on Sunday and defend his title. There’s some potential in him to climb this year and that title boosted him to a tie for his previous career high of #40.
He is off until Delray and then plays there, Acapulco and the Sunshine Double. There are roughly 200 points to defend before he switches to the clay and approximately 100 points on the dirt before RG. With decent results he could easily gain seeding at Wimbledon and avoid a heartbreak like losing 2R in five to Zedraffe.
Top 20 by YE2019 is very realistic.
He is off until Delray and then plays there, Acapulco and the Sunshine Double. There are roughly 200 points to defend before he switches to the clay and approximately 100 points on the dirt before RG. With decent results he could easily gain seeding at Wimbledon and avoid a heartbreak like losing 2R in five to Zedraffe.
Top 20 by YE2019 is very realistic.
Bill W
Rookie
None of the recent crop of players look like they have what it takes to win a slam, except for maybe one token title if the stars all align, and the Big 3 are retired... I hope I am wrong. My hope is that Fritz gets it together.
American youth is too concerned with becoming youtube celebrities or singing sensations to commit to the work it takes to become a successful professional tennis player. That and the fact that there is little prestige to tennis when compared with the likes of football and baseball.
American youth is too concerned with becoming youtube celebrities or singing sensations to commit to the work it takes to become a successful professional tennis player. That and the fact that there is little prestige to tennis when compared with the likes of football and baseball.
BlueB
Legend
toby55555
Hall of Fame
2014 when they last won a GS together but with Jack Sock Bob won two last year, seems obvious to me they should both get a younger partner but I'm guessing blood is thicker than more titles.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
toby55555
Hall of Fame
Of course!Actually, it was Mike.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Little $$$ and much higher risk to reward ratio. A benchwarmer in baseball is guaranteed over half million in salary plus benefits (travel, per diem, pension etc if a success). You need to be top 90 or so to gross that .5million on the ATP Tour. There are 750 MLB players on active rosters.
leave Monaco? LOL
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Without looking, in the last two years Isner and Sock won MS1Ks and Querrey won Acapulco500.
SeeingDusk
Hall of Fame
I think Tiafoe has the best chance once the big 4 is gone.
TahoeTennis
Legend
Isner. Wimbledon. 2019. The 16 year curse will end!
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
But BO5 kills him.
Boom-Boom
Legend
and a automatic smart adjustable brain for you
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
When RF finally retires and, subsequently, Andy Roddick comes out of retirement
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SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Turning 34 in a few weeks, seems unlikely that your tennis viewing days are in jeopardy. But JI did play some of his best tennis last year and finally reached the SF round at a slam event.
Auto net height adjustment. Funny guy. Does the net height change quickly enough to go back to its normal playing height for the rest of the rally? Can't see that happening unless you go to a virtual holographic net.
A low-tech solution is to go with a larger service area and mandate that everyone serve underhand (and below the waist) -- just like badminton does.
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slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
Yup. Oh but his waist is higher than anyone else's! And this is the internet, so, thatz gunna be a dealbreaker!
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Not really. His arms are longer so it'll be very tricky, if possible at all, to take advantage of his higher waist on an underarm serve. Even if he finds a way, the advantage will be very slight -- considerably less than he has with the lightning-bolts-from-the-sky serves that he has now.
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slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
Yes yes yes, but people will find a reason to hate your new rule. Well except those of us who have a good underhand serve. Also, NK would relish it, so, that will be funny.
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
And Hingis.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Where is Donald Young? John McEnroe and company had grand hopes that he be the “one” for the Americans!
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Let that be a timely warning to all other aspiring tennis greats. Never be anybody's grand hope!
BGod
G.O.A.T.
Isn't he already? I mean, you had an American with a Slam near every year for a dozen years then nothing for 16? And that's me not counting Lendl as an American even though he got citizenship in the late 80s. There was a 3-4 year stretch in the 80s.
Looking at the prospects Tiafoe wouldn't be a good bet so that 16 will stretch into 20+.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
There been a lot of young American young hopefuls that the USTA machine promoted as next great American tennis player: I do not want to name then since they are active players and why rub it in. It not like they are not trying hard or slacking off now, they just not lucky as often to make past the qualifying tournaments to make into the main draw of even the ATP 250s and 500 level tournaments. All had WC in GS and 1,000 level tournaments as a start to jump start their careers.
TahoeTennis
Legend
2021 Tiafoe usopen
Djokovic2015
Semi-Pro
Not to mention that AAA minor league baseball players still at least have all travel/food expenses covered and make a meager enough income to live whereas challenger tour tennis players are almost all losing money.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Minor league pay is so abysmal that there’s way too much attrition from guys quitting rather than struggling to get by on as little as $1200/month. AAA money is only a bit better but that promotion to “the show” is right there for many of them and they hang on for that chance.
Apparently, the Blue Jays may unilaterally bump minor league salaries this season and there is consideration being made by MLB to mandate blanket increases from all 30 teams. In an era when superstar salaries are crossing the $30million/year threshold there is room to share the wealth to all levels.
Pheasant
Legend
Baseball costs next-to-nothing to play compared to tennis while growing up and getting the requisite training in tennis would bankrupt the vast majority of households here in the US.
Also, baseball pays a lot more money. The league minimum for a bench rider in MLB is 550K per year. 550K + free travel, doors, and lodging makes baseball quite profitable for somebody that sucks professionally.
I love tennis. But I would choose baseball in a heartbeat if I had elite talent in both. That is a no-brainer.
Also, baseball pays a lot more money. The league minimum for a bench rider in MLB is 550K per year. 550K + free travel, doors, and lodging makes baseball quite profitable for somebody that sucks professionally.
I love tennis. But I would choose baseball in a heartbeat if I had elite talent in both. That is a no-brainer.
Djokovic2015
Semi-Pro
Agreed on all accounts.
My only point was that AAA money (typically around $2K/month + all travel expenses paid) is enough to live on while trying to chase the dream, whereas the comparable AAA of tennis (Challenger Tour) is typically going to lead to a net loss and hence is literally impossible without support (via a sponsor or wealthy family).
Would be nice to see that wealth distribution in baseball. Obviously tennis needs it even more.
Djokovic2015
Semi-Pro
Agassi mentioned in an interview that his dad's reaction to his scathing comments about him in his book was "I wouldn't change anything about what I did, except maybe have you play baseball instead of tennis since you can do it longer and make more money."
Some irony that Agassi then said he learned what not to do as a father and now his son might end up in the MLB
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
RG 2019
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Mainad
Bionic Poster
TahoeTennis
Legend
Tiafoe Wimbledon 2020, mark it.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Taylor Fritz USO
TennisHound
Legend
They won’t
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Will the final be staged over 3 days with triple digit games played in the 5th set?
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
I like this. Mostly because i read it very quickly and thought it said Elton John. And elton john is like soopartrendy rye now.
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