Not a surprise if Nadal´s streak ends this weekend

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Zaragoza

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I´m not saying it´s going to happen but I wouldn´t be surprised if Nadal´s streak on clay ends this weekend. It´s going to be really tough for him to defend his title in Barcelona, mainly because of the physical factor. Even for Nadal it´s going to be really tough after he decided to keep playing doubles this week. Take a look at his matches in the last 10 days:

MONTECARLO

Wednesday: Chela
Thursday: Vliegen
Friday: Kohlschreiber
Saturday: Berdych
Sunday: Federer

BARCELONA

Tuesday: Doubles match vs Ferrer/Vicente
Wednesday: Vliegen
Thursday: Johansson & Doubles match vs Knowle/Kohlmann
Friday: Starace & Doubles match vs Knowles/Nestor
Saturday: Ferrer & Doubles match vs Erlich/Ram

If he wins both matches on Saturday, the doubles final on Sunday is scheduled before the singles final. Not sure if the order of play could be changed if Nadal reaches both finals. Anyway Nadal has played 11 matches in the last 10 days. It´s gonna be 13 matches in 11 days after tomorrow. Also, Ferrer and Cañas (if he reaches the final) are good and consistent players with a great physique and they could take benefit from Nadal´s overloaded schedule. I´m not saying it´s going to happen because Nadal is really tough to beat on clay but I can´t imagine a better chance for someone to beat him on clay. If Nadal wins this his physique is definitely out of this world. I can´t understand why he is playing doubles in back to back tournaments, I think it´s a really bad idea.
 
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Chip n' charge

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No way! Nadal will pull it out. He's a fighter. Ferrer will be a challenge but he fears Nadal on clay, as everyone does.

Result in my opinion....Nadal in straight sets.
 
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Teh_pwnerer

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well, hes still young and hes in great shape, i think he can handle it, besides he gets massages and stuff after each game, but who knows maybe he is tired..
 
Fedace

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Chip n' charge said:
No way! Nadal will pull it out. He's a fighter. Ferrer will be a challenge but he fears Nadal on clay, as everyone does.

Result in my opinion....Nadal in straight sets.
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Ferrer is so afraid of nadal, he may just pull out with injury, brain injury from shaking too much knowing he has to play rafa. and canas will fight but he also knows he is just a knotch below rafa on clay
 
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splink779

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wyutani said:
you obviously havent seen ferrer play on clay before.
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You obviously haven't seen their head to head. Since Nadal became Nadal, he has only lost 1 set in 3 matches to Ferrer. And even when Ferrer beat him back in 04, it took 3 tough sets.

Nadal hasn't lost a set in two straight tournaments. Sure he expends more energy than most in his matches, but then again he has more than most, and truth is he could be much worse off. At this time last year, he had already lost a few sets by this time. Remember Nieminen nearly beat him here last year?

Nadal is not going to lose a set this week. Personally I think this is exactly what he plays and lives for - tearing through the clay season.
 
bluescreen

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i dont even like nadal and i dont think he'll lose this week. if it was a different surface maybe, but not on clay.
 
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Chip n' charge

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I have seen Ferrer play well on clay. I believe he made it pretty far in Roland Garros the last couple of years, but obviously not as far as Nadal. Nadal will keep his streak going. The only person that can maybe snap his streak is Djokavic. Or maybe the French youngster Gasquet. But that is very unlikely.
 
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splink779

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I think Safin in form on clay could do it. He's tall and hits hard, with a big flat backhand being one of the best. But that is so rare these days that its barely worth thinking about.
 
psamp14

psamp14

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nadal losing this weekend? in barcelona? federer isnt even playing barcelona so how does his name get in the mix....

nadal might lose in the finals of rome, or very very minimal possibility of getting upset while going for his 3rd straight RG...
 
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rafan

Hall of Fame
If I can remember Macenroe used to play doubles with Peter Flemming soon after his big single wins but of course the tennis was less physical then. Must admit the way Nadal is playing at the moment - is a bit worrying as regards his past injuries - hope he gets through and has a chance to take a break.
 
z-money

z-money

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very funny sobad. i like him too but he sucks. nadal doubling up isnt a big deal. Malisse did it in two tournaments in a row in january.
 
SoBad

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Don't know what you mean, you are always making unreasonable comments against tennis and science...
 
z-money

z-money

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SoBad said:
I agree, but is that why you had to pour sewage over Safin and myself in the thread where I presented my dissertation?:-o
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sorry dude! dont misunderstand me i think he has/had the most potential of any player ever. i.e. his destruction of sampras at the 2000us open. but now he is becoming injury prone, he hasnt won a title since is win in australia. im starting to doubt him alot. he needs to get his act together or he may be retireing before 2010 like he claimed
 
edmondsm

edmondsm

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SoBad said:
Why wouldn't Nadal win Barcelona, it's not like Safin is still in the draw...
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Your loyalty is uncanny. I pray to God that Safin wins Roland Garros. I've been wishing this for years now but your fandom has re-inspired me.

You heard it hear first. The second Sunday at RG, Safin is hoisting the trophy.
 
z-money

z-money

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edmondsm said:
Your loyalty is uncanny. I pray to God that Safin wins Roland Garros. I've been wishing this for years now but your fandom has re-inspired me.

You heard it hear first. The second Sunday at RG, Safin is hoisting the trophy.
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i think he has a better shot at the us or especially the AO where he has been in 3 finals
 
edmondsm

edmondsm

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z-money said:
i think he has a better shot at the us or especially the AO where he has been in 3 finals
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He has said that clay is his favorite surface. Maybe he'll get inspired....but I think Safin has a 5 year rule. He won the US in 00, the Oz in 05, watch out in 2010.
 
edmondsm

edmondsm

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No that's the funny thing, he's almost more successful on grass (he said "I hate grass") than on clay. Yet I know I've heard him state that clay is his favorite surface.

To me this is Safin in a nutshell.
 
z-money

z-money

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uhh duh!. i remember him losing his firs AO final to thomas Johannson. and the tv kept going to his blond hoker friend whos nipple was hanging out of her shirt for 2 hours of tv it was hilarious. but that just goes to show you how the guy is. no one knew who she was. this tells me he parties it up big time. just like Phillipousus
 
SoBad

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
"Grass is for cows to chew on."

- Marat Safin

P.S. No matter, I read a study somewhere that he is the favourite for the next four majors...
 
jelle v

jelle v

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Ferrer doesn't even stand a chance against Federer on clay.. how on earth is Ferrer gonna trouble Nadal? :confused:
 
vive le beau jeu !

vive le beau jeu !

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Heavy Metal Tennis Star said:
federer might be the james bond of tennis, but nadal is the rambo of tennis, and nadal wont lose this weekend or any weekend til the french?
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lol... with the jacket and the sleeveless shirt, your comparison makes some sense !
i hope that he loses in "Rambo IV : dirt'mission in Barcelona"
take that, nadal !!!
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Zaragoza said:
Anyway Nadal has played 11 matches in the last 10 days. It´s gonna be 13 matches in 11 days after tomorrow. Also, Ferrer and Cañas (if he reaches the final) are good and consistent players with a great physique and they could take benefit from Nadal´s overloaded schedule. I´m not saying it´s going to happen because Nadal is really tough to beat on clay but I can´t imagine a better chance for someone to beat him on clay. If Nadal wins this his physique is definitely out of this world. I can´t understand why he is playing doubles in back to back tournaments, I think it´s a really bad idea.
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you mean we could already prepare the appetizers for the cocktail ? :rolleyes:

already looking for excuses before this wonderful event happens ?
well, so far he has never been famous for cleverly choosing his schedule... but it's his business and it's part of the challenge !
roger playing halle straight after RG wasn't easy either...

vamos david y los argentinos !!! :D
 
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Zaragoza

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I´m not looking for excuses! You make an "excuse" when something has happened ;)
My point is that given his overloaded schedule in the last days he is not phisically at his best so it wouldn´t surprise me if he loses to Ferrer, Calleri or Cañas but I still have faith in Nadal.
 
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Zaragoza

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Volly master said:
the final is best of 3.

Only the Grand Slams/Miami finals are best of five.
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Barcelona and Gstaad had best of 5 sets finals in the last years. They changed to best of 3 sets this year but Barcelona had best of 5 sets finals since 1953.
 
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pound cat

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Canas had a 3 hour struggle v. Calleri yesterday and will have a hard time making any inroads into Nadal's game. Nadal is on a mission, so look out, Canas.
 
Andres

Andres

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jelle v said:
Ferrer doesn't even stand a chance against Federer on clay.. how on earth is Ferrer gonna trouble Nadal? :confused:
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Blake doesn't even stand a chance against Federer, why would he trouble Nadal, specially since Nadal is beating Federer?

That kind of mathematical logic doesn't work in tennis. It's all about the matchup
 
z-money

z-money

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Andres Guazzelli said:
Blake doesn't even stand a chance against Federer, why would he trouble Nadal, specially since Nadal is beating Federer?

That kind of mathematical logic doesn't work in tennis. It's all about the matchup
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cause they play on hard courts and blake has never lost to nadal on hard courts
 
Andres

Andres

G.O.A.T.
Ok, I'll add the word hardcourt into the sentence

Blake hasn't lost to Nadal on hardcourts, while Fed has (lost against Nadal on hard), and Fed hasn't lost in hardcourts against Blake.

That kind of mathematical logic doesn't work in tennis. It's all about the matchup
 
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Zaragoza

Banned
I have no words for Nadal, really. Playing back to back tournaments, also doubles...and he won both without dropping a set. I thought he would be tired but he proved again to be hard like a rock.
 
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