How hard is it to become a top 250

iplaybetter

Hall of Fame
How hard is it to become a top 250 in the country for boys 14's is it winning states, how hard is it, and what would form a benchmark, as in competition performance.
 

Sakumo

Semi-Pro
I'd say get into the top 5 in your section or 10 depending on your section, and that would be a good benchmark. As for level of play, 14's at national level is about a 5.0 the best 14 in the nation, Emmit I think is his name, is about a lower 6.0 player.
 

zcj41

New User
God, stop using NTRP ratings for juniors already. All you have to do is play a lot of national tournaments and you'll get top 250, it's really not too difficult if you have the time and money to travel.
 
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NebAce1

Guest
God, stop using NTRP ratings for juniors already. All you have to do is play a lot of national tournaments and you'll get top 250, it's really not too difficult if you have the time and money to travel.

Yea exactly I know a lot of kids that aren't very good, but just have enough money to travel around the country playing in little national events that get you a lot of points.
 

Sakumo

Semi-Pro
God, stop using NTRP ratings for juniors already. All you have to do is play a lot of national tournaments and you'll get top 250, it's really not too difficult if you have the time and money to travel.

Nope, National tourneys only give you points if you win rounds. You can go to them and loose first round then loose consolations, and get no points. Eventually you might get lucky and play a sucky kid in the backdraw and get 5 points. That is enough to get you into the top 1000 in the nation.
 
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Matt_MS

Rookie
To your national ranking? Nothing, but play them to get your state ranking up so you can get into your division tournaments (southers, easterns, whatever) and then play nationals.
 

Sakumo

Semi-Pro
actually sectional lv 3,4,5's give national points

And endorsements. Most levels don't from when I was playing USTA. Look for endorsements and they should say in the info if you can get nat points.

I was back in town a little bit ago for a while, and I played a dual level 5 just because I hadn't played USTA a tourney in a while and some of my buds were playing it, and I don't think it counted toward national points.
 

cereal

Rookie
[/QUOTE]Nope, National tourneys only give you points if you win rounds. You can go to them and loose first round then loose cancellations, and get no points. Eventually you might get lucky and play a sucky kid in the backdraw and get 5 points. That is enough to get you into the top 1000 in the nation.[/QUOTE]





sorry had to point this out its not cancellations its is consolation
 

vamosrafa15

Rookie
I'd say get into the top 5 in your section or 10 depending on your section, and that would be a good benchmark. As for level of play, 14's at national level is about a 5.0 the best 14 in the nation, Emmit I think is his name, is about a lower 6.0 player.

its denis kudla and junior ore are 1 and 2 and they are much better than 4.0
 

rbowser

Rookie
Wow. Top 14 year olds are 5.0? That's a lot better than most people I play. I'm planning on trying to enter a local, and I know setting a huge goals like nationals isn't the best, so I'll shoot for locals, then state. One question: If someone asked to play you on a certain time (random) while you were on the court, would you do it?
 
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Alex132

Guest
How hard is it to become a top 250 in the country for boys 14's is it winning states, how hard is it, and what would form a benchmark, as in competition performance.

well...i imagine its pretty hard. We got guy in south dakota whos like 14 and he is #1 in state for high schools. freaking ripping every1s butt :\

yeah im sure they 5.0s....at least. There some real gud players i seen that are pretty young
 

cereal

Rookie
due to my recent raging good play at Nationals I have/will move into the top 50 in the nation!! excited

and you can be number one or number one million in the nation it takes solid hard work.
 

cereal

Rookie
damn sakumo plays Grade a? and Matt MS I dont wanna give out my name if you really want to know p.m. me
 

cereal

Rookie
hey sakumo, since you play ITF,
I am a Boy's 16's ranked like 11-25(no exact numbers that gives my identity away) I played the Spring Circuit itf's in Texas this year and all I'm saying is I got past the first three rounds in 18 singles(once again cannot give out revealing facts, academy rules) is it maybe a good idea for me to play the futures in here in the states if all expenses are paid for just to see how I do or will it be a complete waste of time because I know those guys are good.

thanks
seer E el
 

Sakumo

Semi-Pro
hey sakumo, since you play ITF,
I am a Boy's 16's ranked like 11-25(no exact numbers that gives my identity away) I played the Spring Circuit itf's in Texas this year and all I'm saying is I got past the first three rounds in 18 singles(once again cannot give out revealing facts, academy rules) is it maybe a good idea for me to play the futures in here in the states if all expenses are paid for just to see how I do or will it be a complete waste of time because I know those guys are good.

thanks
seer E el

It sure wouldn't be a waste of time. Anytime you are playing against people who will own you is a great learning experience and it doesn't kill your confidence if you lose, plus if you win, you get a huge confidence boost. I doubt you will get any pts, but yea I would try. I love playing qualies for like IW and Sony Erickson because it's great competition, and you could make the main draw. So for sure if it is payed for, go for it.
 

zcj41

New User
hey sakumo, since you play ITF,
I am a Boy's 16's ranked like 11-25(no exact numbers that gives my identity away) I played the Spring Circuit itf's in Texas this year and all I'm saying is I got past the first three rounds in 18 singles(once again cannot give out revealing facts, academy rules) is it maybe a good idea for me to play the futures in here in the states if all expenses are paid for just to see how I do or will it be a complete waste of time because I know those guys are good.

thanks
seer E el

Paid for? Go for it, you'll have some tough matches, but it's an excellent experience to really see what you're up against in the future. (no pun intended)

Tough match against Harrison in Spring, by the way, I remember seeing part of it.
 
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NebAce1

Guest
Cereal you played Harrison? Ryan or Christian? What was the score if you don't mind me asking?
 

BigBUBBA

Semi-Pro
Ask ZCJ41 if you really wanna know..not in the us. Thats all I can tell you. But I have lived in Cincinatti. Where I learned English. And I lived in Bangalore, but that has nothing to do with this.
 
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NebAce1

Guest
wow all around the world I see. That's pretty cool.

Oh and Zcj do you have AIM or something like that I have some questions.
 

jasoncho92

Professional
I'd say get into the top 5 in your section or 10 depending on your section, and that would be a good benchmark. As for level of play, 14's at national level is about a 5.0 the best 14 in the nation, Emmit I think is his name, is about a lower 6.0 player.
The guy i get lessons from is Emmet's serve coach lol
 

mJeez4293

Rookie
yeah im pretty sure he did... played at many tournaments with him and next to him. maybe not exactly pushed but just a steady game, not that theres anything wrong with that
 

cereal

Rookie
hey sakumo you play junior itf's? lol I thought the whole time you played Men's circuit...so you playing grasscourt championships-usa? maybe we can meet or something at a tourney
 

Sakumo

Semi-Pro
hey sakumo you play junior itf's? lol I thought the whole time you played Men's circuit...so you playing grasscourt championships-usa? maybe we can meet or something at a tourney

Yea, I mostly play juniors ITF, but I play challengers and futures also. I've been in the main draw of a ATP tourney too. So I have pts in ATP, just don't want to commit yet, you know.
 

cereal

Rookie
yeah so like if Im top 300 ITF juniors is it a good Idea for me to try the futures and challengers?
 

cereal

Rookie
cause I've hit yesterday with Michael McClune ..he is very consistent and solid like every single shot and I know he won some futures events previously you ever hit with him? man he's pretty good.
 
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