Completely different weight distribution.Has anyone compared the Ezone 98 305 gram version with a leather grip vs the Tour? I would assume this would match them up in static weight
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Have you tried it? I know that it will be different distribution, that's a given. Wondering about any feedback.Completely different weight distribution.
Yes, have you? I played the 2020 standard extensively with weight added. Completely different, like comparing a Blade to a Prostaff.Have you tried it? I know that it will be different distribution, that's a given. Wondering about any feedback.
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Which you then answered .No that's why I'm asking dude...
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I'll rephrase. Anyone has useful feedback about my question? Thanks guysHas anyone compared the Ezone 98 305 gram version with a leather grip vs the Tour? I would assume this would match them up in static weight
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Has anyone compared the Ezone 98 305 gram version with a leather grip vs the Tour? I would assume this would match them up in static weight
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This is really helpful! I don't like to mess around a lot with customization so will be ordering a pair of The tours today. Thanks @TagUrItI initially ordered an Ezone 98 and really enjoyed playing with it. The only thing I felt it was lacking was little weight. My plan was to add some tungsten tape and a leather grip to it. Then the Tour came out, I went ahead pulled the trigger on it. I think it’s the better choice, because the weight is evenly distributed. With customizing it’s difficult to balance the racquet. Adding a leather grip would add weight, but you would still need to balance it at the head of the racquet. I added a leather grip and (same amount) tungsten tape to my previous racquets Ezone 100’s. They were definitely more powerful, but I don’t think they were all equally balanced.
This is really helpful! I don't like to mess around a lot with customization so will be ordering a pair of The tours today. Thanks @TagUrIt
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because of the weight or because the stringbed is just more spin friendly ?Spin was easier to generate on the DR
This is really helpful! I don't like to mess around a lot with customization so will be ordering a pair of The tours today. Thanks @TagUrIt
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The weight and balance. Yes on the control and precision.because of the weight or because the stringbed is just more spin friendly ?
does this also mean that the tour feels more control oriented, more precision on flat shots ?
First hit with the Ezone Tour today. It came strung with Yonex Rexis - a multi. For reference I am a 4.5 and play with the Vcore Pro 97 330 (2018 model) with gut mains/poly cross.
Upon the first hit, I immediately knew I would like this racquet. Great feel, not too soft and not too firm, with plenty of plowthrough. Stiffness between the Ezone (62 RA) and the Vcore (65 RA) felt about the same to me. Just rallying from the baseline I loved it, great combination of power and control - I felt like I could rally and hit balls deep in the court all day. Definitely a bit more pop than the Vcore. Serves were also great - equal to Vcore on kick serves but a few extra MPH on the flat serves.
Some negatives started to pop up when I started playing points. The main negative - the touch. The relatively head heavy balance combined with the added power and wider beam made this racquet a bit more awkward at net and on touch shots compared to the Vcore. I also found playing defense when stretched out wide a little more difficult due the balance. The balance and weight actually remind me of the the Youtek Radical Pro I used for 2 years, but with a tighter string pattern.
Again this is just my first hit so I could change my mind, but my initial impression is the Ezone is a must demo if the specs are in your wheelhouse, but for my singles/doubles game, the Vcore is a better all around racquet. If you are primarily a singles player, then the Ezone Tour might be the better choice as I think it wins on groundstrokes and serves. I also think a multi isn't a great fit for me in this racquet- I would probably like a full bed of poly more to tame the power.
Naomi’s current practice partner. Former top ranked junior. His reviews are legit. I agree with him that for those who liked the standard 98 but needed a little more stability and plow the Tour checks a lot of boxes.
Former top 400 player though, so what works for him may not necessarily work for 99.9% of the people on here...
no you can’t ezone is almost always on specsOnce again, I can grab 10 normal Ezones and I will have ones with a 60 RA and ones with a 65 RA. That doesn't say anything.
I’m a little surprised he liked the balance as he felt the HD was head heavy, but on paper the Tour should be more head heavy compared to the HD.
Former top 400 player though, so what works for him may not necessarily work for 99.9% of the people on here...
The new TFight 305 RS is closer to 16!
Yonex EZONE 98 Tour 14.72
Rather bulky twistweight as per TWU, RFA territory.
I think I said this at some point elsewhere in this thread, but try MSV Focus Hex 17L (1.18mm) or Confidential 17 (1.20mm). With those strings you can keep the same 53lb tension or go lower, more like 51-52. Control and feel will be tons better. I have hit with the Focus Hex 17L in one of my 2020 Prince Phantom 100P's for a few sessions, and I have Hyper-G 1.15 (18g) at 52lbs in my other one. The control, feel, and durability are tons better than thin Hyper-G, which is nearly dead after four or five hitting sessions in my experience. The thinner strings make the racket more maneuverable indeed; it definitely helps me out, since my 100P's are similarly hefty compared to the EZone Tour (~330 swingweight, higher twistweight than the EZone Tour). I am kinda curious about the EZone Tour, but I know that it would have to be around 340 grams to achieve my preferred balance point, and the thick beam will probably be less whippy/slower than the thin Phantom beam.Restrung my EZT with hyper g 17 gauge 53 lbs and i must say it played really well. Good pop and pocketing with the thinner gauge and spin was slightly better so I was able to get the ball to dive in the court. I definitely noticed a more head light feel coming from a 16L to a 17 and it felt like I could whip the racket head much easier. This may be me getting more used to the balance, but I really think it is a combination of that and the thinner string. Next, I will probably try a more shaped and grippy spin string at 17G and string it higher maybe at like 55 LBS. Hyper G makes the racket VERY muted and i assume it will become too lively here in the next couple hitting sessions. Any suggestions on good playing 17G strings that have more grip/spin and very good control? I must reiterate this racket is a serving monster its almost unfair if you have solid technique and good leg explosion up through the service motion....
Once again, I can grab 10 normal Ezones and I will have ones with a 60 RA and ones with a 65 RA. That doesn't say anything.
I’m a little surprised he liked the balance as he felt the HD was head heavy, but on paper the Tour should be more head heavy compared to the HD.
Wrong. I've RDC'd probably hundreds of racquets over the years. Not even Wilson or Head with their random QC have that extreme level of variance. On those racquets you'll typically see a variance of +/-1 (RA unlike weight or swingweight isn't a spec that varies massively). Yonex with the much higher QC won't have a variance of anywhere near 5 on their Ezone Tours.
But ±2-3 variance in RA is extremely common.
Yeah with 67 stiffness it seems like you can hit with any spot on the plane... They seem to bring some Medvedev's stability to the retail market, huh... Not proper thread, sorry.The new TFight 305 RS is closer to 16!
No, it isn't.
You clearly don't understand how racquets are made. The RDC reading is of the bending force of the entire racquet laid horizontally. Unlike weight (which is a much more granular measurement), RA doesn't vary much from racquet to racquet of the same model as the layup is the same and you're bending a tubular structure.
Thanks for the feedback, did you experience more control with the confidential 17G, than Focus Hex and Hyper G?I think I said this at some point elsewhere in this thread, but try MSV Focus Hex 17L (1.18mm) or Confidential 17 (1.20mm). With those strings you can keep the same 53lb tension or go lower, more like 51-52. Control and feel will be tons better. I have hit with the Focus Hex 17L in one of my 2020 Prince Phantom 100P's for a few sessions, and I have Hyper-G 1.15 (18g) at 52lbs in my other one. The control, feel, and durability are tons better than thin Hyper-G, which is nearly dead after four or five hitting sessions in my experience. The thinner strings make the racket more maneuverable indeed; it definitely helps me out, since my 100P's are similarly hefty compared to the EZone Tour (~330 swingweight, higher twistweight than the EZone Tour). I am kinda curious about the EZone Tour, but I know that it would have to be around 340 grams to achieve my preferred balance point, and the thick beam will probably be less whippy/slower than the thin Phantom beam.
wow he strung it with lynx at 60 lbs that crazy lol. Im definitely going to try 55-56 lbs next time aroundI’m a little surprised he liked the balance as he felt the HD was head heavy, but on paper the Tour should be more head heavy compared to the HD.
Well, first of all the RDC doesn't lie. Second of all, the layup is not the same, cause they are placed by hand in a mold. The stiffness may vary depending on how accurate you can place the same amount of carbon in the mold, also different batches can easily be made of different batches of carbon supply, and not all carbon has the same thickness etc. The result of that variation leads to different RA numbers.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. It doesn't matter whether they're put in by hand or not. The carbon graphite layup sheets are the SAME for every racquet of the same model. Yonex don't use random scrap pieces of graphite sheets that they've found lying about in a junk yard. The structural integrity and flexing characteristics don't change whether the overall weight is 5g more or 5g less, even more so because you're creating a tubular structure. The layup would have to be wildly different to create the RA variances that you're talking about. You really don't have a clue about how racquets are made or the mechanical characteristics of the materials used.
I’m a little surprised he liked the balance as he felt the HD was head heavy, but on paper the Tour should be more head heavy compared to the HD.
Every time you post you make yourself look yourself look sillier and sillier. Even in that thread you linked to, apart from that one outlier, they clearly show that the measurements from that guy are +/-1 of 64RA for 6 out of the 7 racquets he measured. And that's from Head for a Prestige with thinner 22mm primarily rectangular beam. What do you think the variances are going to be from Yonex who have lightyears better QC? And for a racquet with a more ovoid 24/25mm variable beam with greater structural geometry? You really don't have a clue.
Whos buying that Osaka version of this ?? it is so much prettier than that blue garbage.
still this is not true for Yonex racquets, they are only within 1 RAHaha, accept the data and take your loss. I stated that 2-3 RA between the same type of a racket is very common. He measured the lowest in 1 batch at 63 and the highest at 67. This is just 1 random batch. TW also attest to that, I measured 100's of rackets in store before I made that statement. Get outta here man.
still this is not true for Yonex racquets, they are only within 1 RA
And that's from Head for a Prestige with thinner 22mm primarily rectangular beam. What do you think the variances are going to be from Yonex who have lightyears better QC? And for a racquet with a more ovoid 24/25mm variable beam with greater structural geometry? You really don't have a clue.
Probably wont be an Osaka Ltd of the Tour
Whos buying that Osaka version of this ?? it is so much prettier than that blue garbage.
23/24*, you also do understand that it tapers to 19mm in the throat? Pretty close to where the rackets bends on a RDC machine